Solved A/V Software Questions (Conflicts?)

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Hi! I've been using the following programs for a long time and don't want to go without them:
1.) SUPERAntiSpyware Pro.
2.) Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware
3.) Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6.2

I enjoy Avira AntiVir Premium Security Suite, am currently using the AntiVir Personal, as it's free... but find it too sensitive, even when set at a low detection level.

My ISP gives us full-version Norton Security Suite priveleges as subscribers, but I simply don't like it and it misses things other A/V programs would catch. No explanation necessary on that one.

However, I have a paid subscription to TrendSecure / Trend Micro Internet Security Pro 2009, which as of now is SO different! Trend Micro Titanium Internet Security x64 Pro is blazing fast. No more 6+ background processes. It doesn't just crash at startup. It loads quickly. ...no longer a memory and resource hog. However, they keep badgering the end-user about conflicts with MBAM & Spybot S&D.

Is it, in fact, safe to install TIS Titanium x64 Pro first, then install the free version (no Active System Protection) of MBAM 1.50.1, then Spybot S&D 1.6.2, only with Security Center Integration (no TeaTimer?)

The following link is from a site that I enjoy, which veritably re-states the benefits I've found, but, as always, leaves the ambiguous shadow of conflicting software over it.

Trend Micro Titanium Internet Security 2011, why it's our new A-List security software - Security - Software - Reviews - PC & Tech Authority

TIS Support has to back up their system messages and I don't really trust other forums. All advice appreciated!!!
 

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You should never use more than 1 A/V product or 1 firewall, There are different views on using more than 1 spyware products. It causes a lot of problems if you run 2
Myself I use KIS2011 with Windows Firewall and defender turned off, I've also got Malwarebytes Anti-Malware on my PC with Realtime PP turned off and just run it now and then.

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It's ok to use different A/V programs as long as only one of them has a working online/realtime component.
Who's to say if you enjoy next to your AV program 25 on-demand scanners. That shouldn't pose any problems.

-DG
 

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Each to their own I suppose but I still would have only 1 A/V working rather than have an conflicts by running 2.

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The whole point is: only AV's with online/realtime components will clash.
If you have an additional "on demand" scanner you're fine.

I use Avast as a real time protection and Malwarebyte on demand. That works just fine here

-DG
 

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Ive heard you should only have 1 a/v installed on a computer at any given time, but you can have a few on demand scanners for a second opinion.
 

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As I've said it's each to their own and yes peeps do have more than 1 A/V software. I know peeps have problems with more than 1 and others that have no conflicts.
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As I've said it's each to their own and yes peeps do have more than 1 A/V software. I know peeps have problems with more than 1 and others that have no conflicts.
iechyd da
Just because there is no aparent conflict that can be identified by a person doesnt mean theres no conflict going on. And it just may be an update away.
Best advice would be; 1 a/v, 1 f/w, Sandboxie combined with Geswall or Returnil and for on demand scanners; Malwarebytes, Emsisoft, Hitman pro, and superantispyware.;)
 
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This is a good discussion. Emsisoft (for my information...); is it a good/indepth product? I've used HijackFree for easy hosts-file editing purposes and the obvious freeware utility. What of the malware product (anti, that is?)

As for my initial post, no, I don't run more than 1 A/V utility. I am, as of now, using:

- TIS Titanium Maximum Internet Security x64 (registered/real-time)
- Spybot Search & Destroy (Security Center Integration, yes, but not the TeaTimer / notification of EVERY change")
- SUPERAntiSpyware Pro (registered, but only use on-demand, SASCore Service set to Manual.)
- Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware, on-demand, freeware version.

My initial question, though, was how much water, so to speak, their message holds.

TIS states that I must remove Spybot S&D + MBAM before installing TIS Titanium Max Pro. I did (knew they'd say it, ran into this previously,) then installed A/V...

Went back and put Spybot + MBAM on anyways. Haven't had any issues. What issues am I to expect when they say "conflicting software?" I love TIS Tit. Max. Pro, but refuse to go w/o Malwarebyte's. It's a standard and not using it would be silly. SAS, well, I could survive using the portable version, as it's always going to function famously. Spybot S&D is just a secondary countermeasure. I enjoy the extras like the hosts (known malicious) list + secure file shredder (aggressive!,) as well as the Immunization.

Thanks, all, for so quickly responding!
 

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One other note: Avast! (Free edition) is very, very popular. I used it once, for a brief stint. I found that it didn't really do a whole heck of a lot. Is this a good performer?

Avira AntiVir Personal is just way too sensitive, even at low detection level. Quality product, to say the least, but too many false positives.
 

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I run Avast on 5 computers.So that and some common sense has kept us safe over the last 3 years.

Avira is known to cause BSODs in certain configurations. so I stick with Avast Free Edition.

False positives you will get from every scanner that uses heuristic (behavioural) scanning methods.
Those false positives usually come up as generic something or other.
If you're in doubt, load the file in question up to Virus Total and see what they say. That's certainly safer then to trust just one scanner.

-DG
 

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If i were you i would keep your a/v of choice, add Sandboxie, Malwarebytes, Emsisoft, Superantispyware. That gives you 3 on demand scanners that should not conflict with your a/v at all in their free version configs, and the most important part" Sandboxie" which is strong enough to protect you without anyother security app if one was so inclined;)
 

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What I don't understand is why have an A/V product running and then have another number of differant products as on demand scanners????? Surely the more you have the more your asking for conflicts?????????

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What I don't understand is why have an A/V product running and then have another number of differant products as on demand scanners????? Surely the more you have the more your asking for conflicts?????????

iechyd da

Hi Paul,

A layered approach to security is generally the recommened strategy to take since one single product doesn't have the capability to detect every single threat. For example, "Product A" might detect threats P,R, and T whilst "Product B" might detect threats Q and S. If you use both products, then you improve your chances of detecting threats P,Q,R, S and T.

In terms of resident anti-malwars products, there is some divided opinion. Many recognised experts doubt the merit of having two resident products. I have both MSE and MBAM resident and have't yet had a conflict. I'm sure others have similar setups. I think its a matter of personal preference and experience.

If in doubt, have one resident, and use the other in an on-demand mode. However, it is generally accepted that 2 or 3 products compliment one another, and that is my recommendation.

Regards,
Golden
 
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Aye I understand that nothing is 100% but to have several products takes up space et al
I have 1 A/V and Malwarebytes that I use now and then but just can't see the point in having more than that and yes each to their own

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Sure Paul, but many have such small footprints relative to the large, cheap disks available....space shouldn't really be an issue.

Regards,
Golden

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What I don't understand is why have an A/V product running and then have another number of differant products as on demand scanners????? Surely the more you have the more your asking for conflicts?????????

iechyd da
Do you not have an A/V, plus MB and SB?:shock::confused:
 

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True enuff footprint are small on some but I still think as the saying goes "More is better" is not the case but thats me.
Sure is but alas the Skull Attack is no longer as strong as it used to be
Yes I use Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 and have Malwarebytes I use now and then. Touch wood I've not had a problem for a long time and that time was when my son turned my A/V off to download something even tho it told him there was a problem with it Kids :mad:

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FWIW, I use Microsoft Security Essentials + Malwarebytes. It is a lovely combination, quite lightweight but heavy-hitting. And free.

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