Solved Activation issue after clean install on new hard drive

[NoelDP]

Nah - the BIOS in most machines contains special code to access the Recovery partition, which relies on it being where it's expected to be (which may not be where any sensible person would put it).

Check your manual for teh instructions for use - and whether you can reinstart the old drive and attempt to burn a set of disks from that (I can't remember how stable your system was with the old disk in it?)

 

[mrbongo]

Nah - the BIOS in most machines contains special code to access the Recovery partition, which relies on it being where it's expected to be (which may not be where any sensible person would put it).

Check your manual for teh instructions for use - and whether you can reinstart the old drive and attempt to burn a set of disks from that (I can't remember how stable your system was with the old disk in it?)

With the old disk in it as main drive, it wouldn't boot so I had to replace. I can connect the old disk to remove my data etc and when I go to disk management/disk utility in Ubuntu I can see the Recovery Partition. I am going to get Samsung Recovery Solution into my laptop for the meantime. I have read a few tutorials that seem to show SRS recovering factory status from an external drive, I think you need to navigate to it and it scans all disks to find what it's looking for.

If this is correct then I would be tempted to attempt:

1. Install Samsung Recovery Solution.
2. Connect old hard disk.
3. Attempt a factory restore by accessing the old disk and then completing the installation on my new stable drive.

 

[NoelDP]

Sounds like a plan to me

Good luck!

 

[mrbongo]

Sounds like a plan to me

Good luck!

Thanks.

A quick search found this. Scroll down to Replacing Recovery Partition Images

I don't want to mess everything up here. Before I do anything, should I get create an image of my current disk and burn to disc.

And only THEN... proceed to Method 2 in the link, hook up the drive, start up SRS and point it towards my old Windows 7 image on there? To be fair, I now have the image in my new drive so I can probably go ahead without it being there and just point to the folder I cloned the stuff into.

Not sure. Out of my depth. But desperately want to nail this lol

 

[NoelDP]

(links broken, there?? what are you referreing to?)

 

[mrbongo]

Sorry, I meant this.

 

[NoelDP]

Be VERY careful following those instrcutions - they are for Windows XP, not for WIndows 7, and there's a world of difference in everything!
I can find no refernces in either that site or in Samsung's to such a procedure for your machine (which uses v4 of the recovery utility as far as I can make out).
You should contact Samsung and see if they can advise.

 

[mrbongo]

Bottled it!

Will see how I get on with Mr Microsoft on Monday and find out if Samsung can sort me out with recovery disc.

Amazing what you can learn in the space of a week though.

 

[NoelDP]

Sensible decision, I think - good luck!

 

[mrbongo]

Not finding much info on Samsung discs being available but I did find a disc with what might be a recovery thing on it, made around the time I bought the laptop.

 

[NoelDP]

What's in the autorun.inf file (right-click on it and Open with.... Notepad)?
How much data is there in the PAMElA-PC folder?

 

[mrbongo]

What's in the autorun.inf file (right-click on it and Open with.... Notepad)?
How much data is there in the PAMElA-PC folder?

autorun.inf contains:

[autorun]
label=PAMELA-PC 22/03/2011 16:27 Drive 1
icon=restore.ico,0

Contents

MusicFiles=0
PictureFiles=0
VideoFiles=0

The Pamela-Pc file asks if I want to restore the files from this backup?

 

[NoelDP]

Judging from that, it's a data backup, rather than a system backup
Usually, system backups from OEMs are anywhere between 3 and 6 DVS's

 

[mrbongo]

About 12gb? The recovery partition on the dead drive is that size. I'm not feeling confident about Samsung providing discs after searching online.

If I made a recovery thing at the start then I must have the discs somewhere. I'm not the type of person to just skip things like that. But sadly I am the type of person who will have a cupboard full of boxes with no logical order to them

The search begins...

 

[NoelDP]

I know that feeling all too well

 

[mrbongo]

Reply from Samsung re: recovery discs:

"Sorry to hear about the problems you are having with your recovery. Unfortunately, we cannot supply recovery disc's, the operating system is OEM and cannot be transfered to other hardware, if can only be used on the original achetecture.

I would suggest taking the notebook to one of our service centres and get the hard drive reimaged.

Please visit our website SAMSUNG UK - Home Electronics | Home Appliances | Mobile | Computing in the support menu you will find Find Service Locations. Enter your postcode, then select the product from the list. This will display a list of service centres close to your location"

So I did just that. Called a local place who said I would have to buy a new copy of Windows, they don't have recovery discs and that I may be able to clone the partition that Windows was on and reinstall that way.

Has anyone ever done this successfully?

 

[mrbongo]

Been doing some homework. From what I understand, if I use a program like Macrium to clone or image the old hard disk, I am able to then move it to my new disk complete with an activated operating system?

I have read that some prefer that the disk image is cloned. I hooked up my old hard disk and below is what I see. To begin with I was more concerned about getting that recovery partition out safely and taking it from there but if I can just move the whole lot then how do I go about doing it?

My aim here of course is to overcome to licence issue I have with Windows 7 on this new hard drive. So if I can take the licenced Windows 7 I already had and move it over, that would be ideal.

To carry this out, what exactly do I need to do in order to just get everything up and running as it was before but on a new drive?

Does it require me to make an image, burn and then boot from there? Or is it a case of cloning and pointing the cloned information into my new drive... and... um that's it?

 

[gregrocker]

Go to Control Panel>Folder Options>View and unhide System and Hidden files.

Then see if you can assign a drive letter to Recovery partition in Disk Mgmt: Drive Letter - Add, Change, or Remove in Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums

Now see if you can find an install.wim or boot.wim folder in the Recovery partition which size indicates it should have the Win7 factory image onboard.

If so then you can add it to a Dual Boot menu using EasyBCD so that at reboot you can choose to run Factory Recovery: Boot Recovery Partition using EasyBCD

If Recovery only wants to run on the old HD, then your idea to image it over to the new HD can also be tried first.

If this fails then I would install Win8 consumer preview which performs as well as Win7. It's unpopular Metro GUI button screen can be changed to Win7 start menu by installing Classic Shell. By participating in the Preview you will be offered discount and free copies as we were during Win7 beta. This is not much of a compromise because Win8 performance is better than Win7 and it has almost no bugs still to be worked out.

 

[mrbongo]

Go to Control Panel>Folder Options>View and unhide System and Hidden files.

Then see if you can assign a drive letter to Recovery partition in Disk Mgmt: Drive Letter - Add, Change, or Remove in Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums

Now see if you can find an install.wim or boot.wim folder in the Recovery partition which size indicates it should have the Win7 factory image onboard.

If so then you can add it to a Dual Boot menu using EasyBCD so that at reboot you can choose to run Factory Recovery: Boot Recovery Partition using EasyBCD

If Recovery only wants to run on the old HD, then your idea to image it over to the new HD can also be tried first.

If this fails then I would install Win8 consumer preview which performs as well as Win7. It's unpopular Metro GUI button screen can be changed to Win7 start menu by installing Classic Shell. By participating in the Preview you will be offered discount and free copies as we were during Win7 beta. This is not much of a compromise because Win8 performance is better than Win7 and it has almost no bugs still to be worked out.

Thanks for your help. After unhiding the files, disk management does not let me assign a letter to the recovery partition. I take it I can't view what's in there until it's assigned a letter and i can navigate to it?

I do notice though that the Recovery Partition size is 15gb and free space is also 15gb. A quick websearch shows that it is often the case that it will 'appear' empty, but is there any option to view its' content accurately?

Since I unhid the files, I tried primitively searching for the install.wim, boot.wim files but I guess until the drive is assigned a letter, no search will show these?

When creating an image, should I do it for only the recovery partition or just do the whole lot? And like cloning, does image copy over all my programs?

At this point should I be installing the Samsung Recovery Solution to my new drive or can the 'migration' occur without it?

 

[mrbongo]

Gave the recovery partition a look in Macrium:

11.46GB

*edit*

Here's a screenshot of what Macrium shows me. It appears that the 2nd partition of drive E contains the Windows stuff, so would I need to clone or image both the recovery and the E drive?