Alt/F10 after Win 7 Upgrade

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I upgraded my Acer 5100 x86 from Vista to Win 7. I do have Vista recovery discs, however I was checking to see if I could recover the laptop to Windows 7 by using Alt/F10. Actually I was just trying to see if Alt/F10 worked at all and what I found after the Windows 7 upgrade was that I got a screen with the following:

Edit boot options for: Win 7

Path\Widows\System 32\Winload.exe
Partition 2
Hard disk 2522d7dc
/No execute=optin/PAE/Numproc=2

Enter=submit Esc=Cancel That is at the very bottom. What does all this mean and what does it mean as far as Alt/F10 goes? Does it mean that there is no way that works anymore because of the upgrade? I still have eRecovery and my Recovery partition is still "Healthy". I don't get why the Alt?F10 quit working though.
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By upgrading to Windows 7, the Acer Recovery Partition is made unusable.

If you need to reinstall Windows 7 at anytime, use this method:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html?ltr=C
Here are a couple more on this subject.
1/ I still have the Vista recovery discs that I made when I first bought this laptop. Would they still work? Like putting the laptop back to factory default but making it Vista instead of Windows 7.
2/ I also have the Windows 7 Upgrade discs.x86 & x64. Wouldn't I just use that to go back to Windows 7?
 

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Since your Recovery Partition will not run after Win7 clean install, you will need to rely on your Recovery Disks to return to Factory Condition if need be, as already stated.

In some cases the Recovery partition can be made to run by marking it Active and rebooting to see if it autostarts or responds to its hotkeys. You can try this now in Disk Mgmt, but may need to use Diskpart from the Win7 DVD or Repair CD Command Line to mark Win7 or it's System Reserved partition (whichever is active now- check first) Active again: Partition - Mark as Active (Method Two)

Since you seem to be interested in experimenting with restoring the Recov partition, it is possible to renew the hotlink after clean reinstall but beyond our pay grade here. Our teacher SIW2 has mentioned this before so you might want to PM him although we don't see him around much lately.
 
Since your Recovery Partition will not run after Win7 clean install, you will need to rely on your Recovery Disks to return to Factory Condition if need be, as already stated.

In some cases the Recovery partition can be made to run by marking it Active and rebooting to see if it autostarts or responds to its hotkeys. You can try this now in Disk Mgmt, but may need to use Diskpart from the Win7 DVD or Repair CD Command Line to mark Win7 or it's System Reserved partition (whichever is active now- check first) Active again: Partition - Mark as Active (Method Two)

Since you seem to be interested in experimenting with restoring the Recov partition, it is possible to renew the hotlink after clean reinstall but beyond our pay grade here. Our teacher SIW2 has mentioned this before so you might want to PM him although we don't see him around much lately.

Ok Lets say I want to do a clean install of Windoows 7 again. My laptop originally had Vista on it and I used real Win 7 upgrade discs to get Windows 7. Am I allowed to use the upgrade disc again to do a clean install? Or would I have to do a recovery with my recovery discs (Vista) and then do a upgrade install all over again? This really confuses me sometimes. The way I was reading it on another post from someone else it almost sounded like it was illegal to upgrade to Win 7 again with the same upgrade disk. Here is a screenshot of what my disk management looks like. As you can see the recovery partition still says "Healthy" but it doesn't say "Active" and it would be the original Recovery Partition.
 

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Windows 7 home premium x64
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Core i5-430M
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Acer SM83-CP
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Your Vista recovery discs will restore your computer to its factory state.

For a clean install with your Windows 7 upgrade disc as stated by theog: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html
Reading your reply I'm a little confused as to the proccess of reinstalling Windows 7 as a clean install with my win7 upgrade disc. How would I go about doing a clean install with the upgrade disc? Just put it in the tray and run and use one of the clean install methods to activate Win 7? Or do I boot to the disc and install from there? It confuses me the way those clean installs are written.
 

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Acer 8943g
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Windows 7 home premium x64
CPU
Core i5-430M
Motherboard
Acer SM83-CP
Memory
8gb
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Mobility Radeo 5650
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1920x1080
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Corsair SSD
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ESET AV V7

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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
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Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
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MSI 2A9C (CPU1)
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8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz
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nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM
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Realtek HD Audio
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HP2310i
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1920 x 1080
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1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage
PSU
460W
Case
HP Elite
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Air cooled
Keyboard
Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M180 mouse
Internet Speed
2Mb
Other Info
Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop
Lets say I want to do a clean install of Windoows 7 again. My laptop originally had Vista on it and I used real Win 7 upgrade discs to get Windows 7. Am I allowed to use the upgrade disc again to do a clean install? Or would I have to do a recovery with my recovery discs (Vista) and then do a upgrade install all over again?

Yes to the first question.

No to the second question.
 

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Always boot the installer to install Win7. Clean Install Windows 7 / Reinstalling Windows 7

If any Windows exists on the HD at the time the booted Win7 installer will detect it and pass a flag allowing use of Upgrade version key, even if you go on to use Custom>Drive options to repartiition.

If no OS is on the HD because you wiped it, repartitioned ahead, or have a new HD, Win7 Upgrade must be able to be reinstalled anyway without grossly inconveniencing the user. For this reason there are the workarounds given in Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version, easiest of which is to do the quick registry edit immediately after install which always works if it's done correctly.

Never fear the loss of your Win7 software rights. You own the OS for life and can reinstall it any way you like as often as you like, as long as Upgrade version has a qualifying OS on hand to back it up - on the honor system. Save the Product Key as you would a bank account number.
 
By upgrading to Windows 7, the Acer Recovery Partition is made unusable.

If you need to reinstall Windows 7 at anytime, use this method:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html?ltr=C

Have you looked at the tutorial above?
I think I'm good now. Basically it's just clean installing Windows 7 again over top of the old one. I'm taking it that I use the product key that came with the Win 7 Upgrade disc? Until I saw the step by step that was on the link that I clicked too I wasn't quite sure I was believing what I was reading. Once I saw it broke down I grasped it just fine. Some of us just need that extra bit of knowledge. You guys are great here at these Forums. Don't know what or where I'd go. Some other forums I used are just, well, you know what I mean. Good intentions, bad advice.:cool:
 

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Windows 7 home premium x64Core i5-430M8gbMobility Radeo 5650
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer 8943g
OS
Windows 7 home premium x64
CPU
Core i5-430M
Motherboard
Acer SM83-CP
Memory
8gb
Graphics Card(s)
Mobility Radeo 5650
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung HM641jI
Corsair SSD
Antivirus
ESET AV V7
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