Avoiding the Windows 10 Update Bully with Windows 7 Updates

[z3r010]

Yep one has to be only positive about 10 otherwise the trolls are set loose in gangs usually they offer no solutions only insults... and it's forum sanctioned attacks.

Stop talking utter nonsense!!!

 

[ThrashZone]

Yep you're right we must see John's thread.

 

[maxseven]

The best advice I've read today (elsewhere) was: just stick with Windows 7 and deal with Windows 10 when you have to buy a new computer. In the meantime I'm avoiding 10-specific updates, though not necessarily all WU altogether i.e. some of the worries about W7 "phoning home" I think are an over-reaction.

 

[Ranger4]

Thanks Derek for that info. I was under the impression that it might stop the upgrade persistence, although I must admit I have not been forced to accept the upgrade either, yet!!!!.

You're welcome Bligh, what persistence are you talking about? Just curious.

I get updates like everyone one else but nothing persistently trying to actually do anything.

This is about as aggressive as I have seen so far,

But I have to click on the GWX icon to see that.

Perhaps "persistence" was a little bit harsh, but it is irritating that one has to be on constant guard for every update in case it has one of the Windows 10 naggers.

I do a manual check for updates every morning just after I start the computer, mainly to get the latest MSE updates. If there is just one update for Windows 7 I usually check it out, but that does not always tell you what it is actually for, so I install it & hope for the best. When there are a heap of updates I don't always check each one.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Thanks Derek for that info. I was under the impression that it might stop the upgrade persistence, although I must admit I have not been forced to accept the upgrade either, yet!!!!.

You're welcome Bligh, what persistence are you talking about? Just curious.

I get updates like everyone one else but nothing persistently trying to actually do anything.

This is about as aggressive as I have seen so far,

But I have to click on the GWX icon to see that.

Perhaps "persistence" was a little bit harsh, but it is irritating that one has to be on constant guard for every update in case it has one of the Windows 10 naggers.

I do a manual check for updates every morning just after I start the computer, mainly to get the latest MSE updates. If there is just one update for Windows 7 I usually check it out, but that does not always tell you what it is actually for, so I install it & hope for the best. When there are a heap of updates I don't always check each one.

Persistent is not at all harsh. Even though they haven't done more that try to sneak the updates in, they are persistently doing so.

 

[jamis]

FWIW, I discovered 16 GWX folders/files on my system after the 12/08/15 updates. Stupid me, 4 were dated 04/04/15 and 12 were dated 03/24/15. The 04/04 entries were owned by "System" and the 03/24 entries were owned by "Trusted Installer". I got rid of them with Brinks "Take Ownership Shortcut" tutorial (many thank yous) after I uninstalled the 12/08/15 updates. 5583 was not one of them as it has been hidden since it was first issued. I'm still getting the GWX key in the registry after every cold boot, but it's always empty or has no value set. I'm going to add the 12/08/15 updates back one at a time to see if any GWX folders/files show up after each install.

I finished re-installing the 12/08/15 updates on my system. No GWX folders/files have shown up and the registry is also clear of any GWX entries, except for the one with no value set that shows up after every cold boot. I'm still a bit puzzled as to where that one's coming from. The stuff dated 04/04 and 03/24 had to have arrived prior to the 12/08 updates. I did let the first 3 W10 prep. updates install before I became aware of them, so that's likely when the GWX stuff go loaded. Thanks to everyone for all of the information on GWX.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

John, you're not seriously thinking of leaving Windows Seven jet ? We have to keep going till the end, keep hanging in

Together we're stronger!

No Thelma I shall stay till the walls fall in I am just keeping my options open re Ubuntu / Linux.

What I said about the blaise' comments was in my mind typical of those who throw caution to the wind in this day and age of all forms of hacking - that particular individual also rather offended me by telling me I am worrying about nothing by comparing me to the billions of other individuals on this planet - which of course I am not I am my own individual person and will not follow like the other lemmings over the precipice because I am being bombarded by those who say that this other OS is so much better. It may be better and faster but it may also be the beginning of the end of computing as we know and have come to enjoy it over the years.

What disappoints me most of all is that Microsoft have in a large part - taken away my right of freedom of choice and after spending a great deal of money over the years on their products. It is all about greed and to be honest probably has been for a very long time even with XP 7 8 etc etc and to me it is boardering on the unethical.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

John, you're not seriously thinking of leaving Windows Seven jet ? We have to keep going till the end, keep hanging in

Together we're stronger!

No Thelma I shall stay till the walls fall in I am just keeping my options open re Ubuntu / Linux.

What I said about the blaise' comments was in my mind typical of those who throw caution to the wind in this day and age of all forms of hacking - that particular individual also rather offended me by telling me I am worrying about nothing by comparing me to the billions of other individuals on this planet - which of course I am not I am my own individual person and will not follow like the other lemmings over the precipice because I am being bombarded by those who say that this other OS is so much better. It may be better and faster but it may also be the beginning of the end of computing as we know and have come to enjoy it over the years.

What disappoints me most of all is that Microsoft have in a large part - taken away my right of freedom of choice and after spending a great deal of money over the years on their products. It is all about greed and to be honest probably has been for a very long time even with XP 7 8 etc etc and to me it is boardering on the unethical.

Bordering? They left that line behind some time ago.

 

[derekimo]

Thanks Derek for that info. I was under the impression that it might stop the upgrade persistence, although I must admit I have not been forced to accept the upgrade either, yet!!!!.

You're welcome Bligh, what persistence are you talking about? Just curious.

I get updates like everyone one else but nothing persistently trying to actually do anything.

This is about as aggressive as I have seen so far,

But I have to click on the GWX icon to see that.

Perhaps "persistence" was a little bit harsh, but it is irritating that one has to be on constant guard for every update in case it has one of the Windows 10 naggers.

I do a manual check for updates every morning just after I start the computer, mainly to get the latest MSE updates. If there is just one update for Windows 7 I usually check it out, but that does not always tell you what it is actually for, so I install it & hope for the best. When there are a heap of updates I don't always check each one.

OK, I see what you mean. I just install them myself but if you're trying not to then I guess that would be a hassle.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thanks Derek for that info. I was under the impression that it might stop the upgrade persistence, although I must admit I have not been forced to accept the upgrade either, yet!!!!.

You're welcome Bligh, what persistence are you talking about? Just curious.

I get updates like everyone one else but nothing persistently trying to actually do anything.

This is about as aggressive as I have seen so far,

But I have to click on the GWX icon to see that.

I do a manual check for updates every morning just after I start the computer, mainly to get the latest MSE updates.

From what others have said MSE updates on it's own you don't need to manually check for updates for it,
If it's that worrisome switch to Panda it updates on it's own so you have one less item to do in the morning

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...From what others have said MSE updates on it's own you don't need to manually check for updates for it...

That wasn't my experience back when I tried MSE. The fact it wasn't updating unless I did it manually was one of the reasons I dumped it (along with the fact it was getting poor performance ratings).

 

[AddRAM]

Ya, I did not like seeing 5583 pop up again yesterday, what`s up with that ?

Enough Microsoft, I`m sick of it.

Long Live Windows 7

I wish they would come out with an update that read "Stops all future upgrades to other operating systems"

 

[ThrashZone]

Really I would download and install that one

I hear ya Lady I did too I ended up using this to get MSE to do auto by using task manager.
How To Fix Microsoft Security Essentials Virus Definitions Updates

 

[Golden]

It updates perfectly fine for me....not sure what you guys have done if it doesn't for you.

 

[ThrashZone]

Me either but it worked after creating the task :/
Very weird
Panda works and that's all I care about now.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Really I would download and install that one

I hear ya Lady I did too I ended up using this to get MSE to do auto by using task manager.
How To Fix Microsoft Security Essentials Virus Definitions Updates

Even though I don't plan on using MSE ever again (too many better ones out there), I still copied and pasted the tutorial into a Word doc for future reference on how to use the Task Scheduler. Thanks for the "edjumacashun"!

 

[DavidE]

It updates perfectly fine for me....not sure what you guys have done if it doesn't for you.

View attachment 378286

There was a problem a few years ago where MSE definition updates stopped working.
As i remember it, it was a problem with a Windows Update that caused the problem.
That problem was fixed, but it hit many people (myself included) and some chose to ditch MSE because of the issue.

 

[ThrashZone]

Your welcome Lady that link was shared to me and anyone else that saw it by DavidE
Thanks again David

 

[DavidE]

You're welcome Mike !
Your memory works great (better than mine), memtest passed

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Your welcome Lady that link was shared to me and anyone else that saw it by DavidE
Thanks again David

Well, heck, I'll rep him too, then. Merry Christmas, you two!