Backing-up takes too long.

thyde9337

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I have pruned my hard disk and archived a lot of my video files, this has left my C:drive storing 252 GB out of a total capacity of 1..15 TB. I have now backed up the C:drive to an external hard drive (I:) and the backup has a total volume of 452 GB. Incidentally, it took nearly 4 hours to carry out the backup even though there was already a previous system backup on that hard drive (I:). Why is the new backup so large and why did the process take so long?

I have carried out a search in the Forums but I have not found an article that answers my questions.

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My System: Dell Studio XPS 8100, Intel Core 3.2 GHz processor. 6.0GB memory. 1.15 GB hard drive, 1.5 GB Toshiba external hard drive I, 1.0TB Toshiba external hard drive (J:.K:,L , 500 GB Iomega external hard drive (M. Dell 922 Scanner/Printer.
 
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You're not backing up the Windows files, are you? Also, you may want to explore incremental backups.
 

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I have pruned my hard disk and archived a lot of my video files, this has left my C:drive storing 252 GB out of a total capacity of 1..15 TB. I have now backed up the C:drive to an external hard drive (I:) and the backup has a total volume of 452 GB. Incidentally, it took nearly 4 hours to carry out the backup even though there was already a previous system backup on that hard drive (I:). Why is the new backup so large and why did the process take so long?

I have carried out a search in the Forums but I have not found an article that answers my questions.

Hello thyde9337 and welcome to the Forum.

Did you do a sector by sector backup with no file compression? That could account for the time.
 

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Setting backup compression to the highest level also increases the time factor immensely (without saving so much more space than on "normal" level).
 

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Thanks Lemur & marsimar for your prompt replies. I used the Windows 7 backup routine for my system image no options were indicated apart from choosing the date and frequency of automatic backups. I have now discovered that I need to start the backup process before selecting which parts of the system to backup. This can be difficult because I have little idea of which parts of my system have changed since the last backup. I was hoping that the backup program would recognise and backup only the changed folders/files and ignore the others.

thyde9337
 

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Dell Studio XPS 8100
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Windows 7 Home Premium
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3.2 Ghz Intel Core i5 650
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Dell Inc. 0T568R A00
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6.0 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GEForce GTS 240
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster HMDS906868
Hard Drives
C: 1.15 TB (int),
Toshiba 1.36 TB (ext),
Iomega 1.00GB (ext),
Iomega 500GB (ext)
Internet Speed
Download 20MB/sec
Thanks Lemur & marsimar for your prompt replies. I used the Windows 7 backup routine for my system image no options were indicated apart from choosing the date and frequency of automatic backups. I have now discovered that I need to start the backup process before selecting which parts of the system to backup. This can be difficult because I have little idea of which parts of my system have changed since the last backup. I was hoping that the backup program would recognise and backup only the changed folders/files and ignore the others.

thyde9337

Just for comparison, I've got a 500GB HD with about 280GB on it. Using the 7 imaging tool takes about 45 minutes if I let it update (overwrite) a previously made image. The initial image will always take the longest ... nothing for it to reference as to what's been changed.

A lot of forum members recommend another free imaging software called Macrium Reflect. They say it offers more user flexibility.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html
 

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thyse9337- 4 hours is quite a long time for a backup. My C drive only has about 23 GB to back up, but it only takes 3 1/2 minutes using freeware Macrium Reflect and the 'medium' compression backup is only about 8 GB in size which is 1/3 the size of the Windows System Image 24 GB backups and can be mounted as a drive in Explorer so that files may be removed or added at the user's discretion...

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Our School of Engineering image is the largest one I work with (Solidworks, CS5, 4 versions of Java). It takes about 3-4 hours to image to our network share using Zen10. The final image is about 30GB.
I also use Ghost to image to a USB, or for legacy images, or for the Mac guys. Image size is about 25GB for the same drive, taking about 60-90minutes.
It probably doesnt help you at the moment, but its another benchmark to go off.

Also, as SledgeDG mentions, using a higher compression will result in a smaller image filesize but at the cost of time.
When I get back to work in the morning, I'l try to post some more accurate numbers.

But now, a question of interest...
How many drives/partitions are you using? And your backups, are they just the system and program files, or are you including your user files too?

A good idea, would be to put your user folders on another drive or partition. So when it comes to your next backup, you can just do the system/program files drive then the users folders later, instead of doing the whole shabang in one long hit.
 

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Macrium Reflect is the way to go,it also makes image,incremental,differential and normal file backups... Do it,,Do it now!!;)
 

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Thanks to those users who replied to my message. I have run backup again after finding out how to control which items should be backed up. The new backup is only 13GB but I do not know how long it ran because the computer was unattended during the backup process. It seems that the problem is now resolved.
 

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Dell Studio XPS 8100
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3.2 Ghz Intel Core i5 650
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6.0 GB
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NVIDIA GEForce GTS 240
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster HMDS906868
Hard Drives
C: 1.15 TB (int),
Toshiba 1.36 TB (ext),
Iomega 1.00GB (ext),
Iomega 500GB (ext)
Internet Speed
Download 20MB/sec
The new backup is only 13GB. It seems that the problem is now resolved.

I must ask how you did that because even though I have trimmed down my Win 7 partition to 16.2 GB the Windows System Image is still 24 GB with the mandatory 9.46 GB Factory Image included.

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Macrium Reflect is the way to go,it also makes image,incremental,differential and normal file backups... Do it,,Do it now!!;)
That's only with the paid version that you get differential and incremental as backup options. On the free version, you can just take an entire image.
 

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