Boot error code: 5

[lfete]

Thanks darkassain
I wil try that, thats easy

 

[lfete]

Thanks darkassain, now I have the floppys

 

[Yronith]

Can i put this Gujin thing on a flash drive? Willl it do the same work?

 

[AlfaMikeDelta]

Hi Yronith!

As far as I know, it can be installed on any device... If you have access to a linux machine, you can follow the steps described here:

SourceForge.net: gujin boot/system loader: FAQ / HOWTO use Gujin

In any other case, you will have to Google for a solution.

Good luck!

AMD

 

[djtomme]

Hi everyone again!

I've managed to install Windows 7 using a boot manager floppy (you can use other media but you will need knowlege on how to make CD's or USB's booteable from a floppy image).

This method uses a linux boot manager called Gujin to "emulate" BIOS functions for booting media (any media).

Here are the steps I followed to build it:

- Download "Standard" version of Gujin from sourceforge (the latest is 2.4)
- Use your favourite decompressing software to unGzip/unTar (I recommend 7-zip, it's free)
- Inside the uncompressed folder, you will find a file named "full.img.gz", unGzip this file too.
- Now you will have a file named "floppy.144", this is the floppy image.
- Download a "Floppy Image Writer", for exmple RawWrite (or WinImage).
- Grab a floppy and write the file "floppy.144" to it.
- Put the Windows 7 Beta DVD in the drive.
- Boot your PC with the floppy, it will show a screen searching for boot records in your computer, follow the instructions about the video resolution.
- Once you are inside the GUI, there will be a list of supported booteable media, press the "F" key corresponding to the one that reads "no emul" or "no emulation" (it should be your DVD)
- Pay attention to the message "Press any key to boot from CD or DVD", so do it!
- Yeah! Windows 7 installer is running!

Hope this helps you a bit with the beta testing...

AMD

PS: For instructions on how to make a booteable CD in Nero with a floppy image, read this. For Gujin documentation, troubleshooting and screenshots read this.

Hello,
I tried this, but there is no option "no emul" or "no emulation" in my list. Any idea, please?

 

[mReXiTuS]

I have solution.

You need Vista install DVD. Boot Vista Installation, choose Language press next and than press "Repair my computer". On next window u will have few options, choose "command promt". Remove Vista DVD and insert Windows 7 Install DVD. Navigate to DVD (for example d: or e:, depends on your drives setting, than go to folder sources (type "cd sources"), and type "setup". Installation will start shortly. Now just follow instructions

Good luck

 

[ten]

When I boot from the Gujin disk, right after press pause it turns my monitor off.

I think the problem lies with the UDF file system on the DVD. If I boot from a DOS floppy with CD-ROM support, I can navigate to my DVD drive, type dir and get a listing that only contains the Readme.txt located in the ISO portion of the DVD.

The DVD works fine on my moms computer so it must have something to do with the bios/drive not being able to read UDF file systems.

 

[lfete]

did not try to boot with the feature your describe jet

Hi ten,
I did not try to boot with the feature g., but I do also think was you describe is the problem. Yes maybe is dos a possibility, but actually I dont know how to get dos(wich files do you copy). I did install win 7 on another computer and there it went fine no problem at all, the only thing is it dont delete/format the HD so my old xp files is still there togetter with win 7. Another problem I ran after the installation is that the screen solution is only 640x440 and no possibilities for more, so i guess for that you need a better "grafic card", but I do not know if you put a better grafic card if you need also a better transformator.

 

[ten]

After posting, I did some messing around with Gujin in a virtual machine to see what's supposed to happen after my screen goes blank.
I deduced that F1 would boot drive 0 (the cd-rom) and sure enough it booted the UDF file system without issues.

Ifete, try making the Gujin disk. It worked for me. Hopefully it will work for you.

 

[lfete]

Thanks for the tip )

Thanks for the "tip" ten, I have them already ready for the Win 7 RC that should come tomorrow for download at microsoft, the download link has still not been pubblished. see you

 

[Lars]

Use mReXiTuS smart method!

I just tried mReXiTuS, Junior Member method on Page 2:

"You need Vista install DVD. Boot Vista Installation, choose Language press next and than press "Repair my computer". On next window u will have few options, choose "command promt". Remove Vista DVD and insert Windows 7 Install DVD. Navigate to DVD (for example d: or e:, depends on your drives setting, than go to folder sources (type "cd sources"), and type "setup". Installation will start shortly. Now just follow instructions "

It works perfectly! and you dont have to mess with floppies et al..

So much easier.. Thanks, mReXiTuS!

 

[ten]

Thanks for the tut!

There are other mobos besides AsRock that are affected. I have a MSI board and get that error.

 

[cstrik3]

I have solution.

You need Vista install DVD. Boot Vista Installation, choose Language press next and than press "Repair my computer". On next window u will have few options, choose "command promt". Remove Vista DVD and insert Windows 7 Install DVD. Navigate to DVD (for example d: or e:, depends on your drives setting, than go to folder sources (type "cd sources"), and type "setup". Installation will start shortly. Now just follow instructions

Good luck

Oh man!!! i just register on this forum to thank you !! it's works perfectly!

Thanks again i just installed windows a few minutes ago and all i know it's very beautiful and simple and great!

 

[darkassain]

this is for the people without a Vista DVD...

you dont even need a separate vista DVD...
but using the same tutorial as described a few posts up you can create it yourself...

 

[antalgebra]

quit honestly, I think this has to do with one of two things:

1) XP-only bios settings. This is quite common among AMD boards, although I've seen it in intel's as well. Look in your Bios for any XP settings that can be turned off while you go through the install. an example of this would be the XP-style 'hybernate' that isen't compatible with Vista/Win7 at all. amongst others

To root cause this, i'd try to install from a USB key. This uses less materials, and will rule out the possibility of your DVD burner being the failed component in this series.

Hope this helps, let me know if you have further trouble.

-D

 

[newtoallthis]

Can I but in and ask why my monitor when my pc has rebooted during the installation of Win 7 RC will only show
"OUT OF RANGE
H - 35.6 KHZ V + 87.2 HZ
720 x 400."
I have used both the gujin and the unawave methods of overcoming the "code 5 failure" and I can get my old pc to boot and apparently load all the files, setup and update but when it reaches finalising installation and it reboots my monitor shows nothing but out of range.
I have tried various monitors that have screen resolutions from 800 x 600 up to 1400 x 900 but nothing changes.
The pc is a Packard Bell NEC tower, SiS650 mainboard with onboard SiS650 graphics, 768Mb RAM, 40 Gb HD, DVD-R, soundblaster audio.
The pc seems to continue to load Win 7 presumably until in needs a response but no picture is seen.

 

[antalgebra]

Can I but in and ask why my monitor when my pc has rebooted during the installation of Win 7 RC will only show
"OUT OF RANGE
H - 35.6 KHZ V + 87.2 HZ
720 x 400."
I have used both the gujin and the unawave methods of overcoming the "code 5 failure" and I can get my old pc to boot and apparently load all the files, setup and update but when it reaches finalising installation and it reboots my monitor shows nothing but out of range.
I have tried various monitors that have screen resolutions from 800 x 600 up to 1400 x 900 but nothing changes.
The pc is a Packard Bell NEC tower, SiS650 mainboard with onboard SiS650 graphics, 768Mb RAM, 40 Gb HD, DVD-R, soundblaster audio.
The pc seems to continue to load Win 7 presumably until in needs a response but no picture is seen.

This is your motherboard's default or minimum graphics setting. Theres alot of monitors that still support 720x400, but its a dwindling rez, and there wont be many.

you might find some video settings in the bios, the first place I'd check is there. Other than that, would need to find a montor that will pick up that freq...

 

[newtoallthis]

This is your motherboard's default or minimum graphics setting. You might find some video settings in the bios, the first place I'd check is there. Other than that, would need to find a montor that will pick up that freq...

Perhaps you can explain something for me? When I install Win XP or Win Vista on the pc this does not happen? The default settings remain the same, so what difference does installing Win 7 make?
Another forum guy showed me how to use an unattend.xml file to set the colour, resolution and refresh-rate at boot-up. This works at boot-up but when the pc restarts during installation if the unattend file brings the monitor back into range I get a
"INSTALL WINDOWS
Windows could not parse or process the unattend answer file for pass (specialize).
The settings specified in the answer file cannot be applied.
The error was detected while processing settings for component
(Microsoft-Windows-Shell-Setup)."
message and the only action is an installation failure.
Most times I just simply get the out of range window.

 

[jcgriff]

As found on A Product of Society » “Select CD-ROM Boot Type :” prompt during Vista SP1 (or Server 2008) x64 Boot on Macbook (Some slight edits)

From Microsoft Support Site (Ref Error Code 5): You cannot start the computer by using a CDFS-based image file to install Windows Vista: (Also Applies to Windows 7)

This problem occurs because the ETFSBOOT.COM program does not handle file versions according to the International Standards Organization (ISO) 9660 specification.
Note The ETFSBOOT.COM program creates the CD boot sector.
The ISO 9660 specification instructs that a name for a file record should consist of the file name that is followed by the file version. Also, the specification instructs that you must separate the file name and the file version by a semicolon. For example, the following file record is valid:
FileName;1
The Windows PE file system driver handles the file version as an option. However, the ETFSBOOT.COM program cannot locate the Setupldr.bin/Bootmgr file if you use a file version.
Note The CDimage.exe program does not append a file version to a file name in a file record.
Therefore, if you use a program other than CDimage.exe or OSCDimg.exe to create the CDFS image file, the computer does not start from the image.
​

The complex solution is outlined on Jowie’s Blog (in much greater detail than here)
The simple solution is as follows (taken from: Sergio Mcfly’s Blog):

1. Download Vista SP1/2008 x64 ISO (Windows 7 ISO) from MSDN (Microsoft), or grab your CD
2. Create 3 folders c:\efi-iso c:\efi-exe c:\efi-dvd
3. Download oscdimg.exe from here into c:\efi-exe
4. Extract iso using 7-Zip or WinRAR (Or copy the contents of the DVD) into c:\efi-dvd
5. Start up a command prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd)
6. Type: cd c:\efi-exe
7. Type: oscdimg -n -m -bc:\efi-dvd\boot\etfsboot.com c:\efi-dvd c:\efi-iso\server2008dvd.iso

Follow the instructions as stated only replace "Vista SP1/2008 x64 ISO" with your Windows 7 ISO.

I recommend 7-Zip highly. It's the best all around compression/decompression utility I have found. It's easy to use for almost all compressed file types.

In the command line that reads:
oscdimg -n -m -bc:\efi-dvd\boot\etfsboot.com c:\efi-dvd c:\efi-iso\server2008dvd.iso

You can replaceserver2008dvd.iso With any file name you wish, I used Win7.iso.

Hope this helps.

 

[newtoallthis]

jcgriff,
Thanks for that. Sorry for the late reply, I've just found your post.