Solved bootmgr problem, system working with win7 DVD

[Yoknee]

G´day. Been reading and installing tools etc. found on this forum in the attempt to fix my win7 install.

I hade XP installed and cleaned it out of the C:drive before installing win7.
I moved all my important data to E: drive that is a different HD.

C: & D: drives are on the same HD as partitons. D: drive I delated all data.

In bios I have the 1st boot as DVD, coz thats the only way to get win7 running.
I get the bootmgr missing message otherwise.

Ive tryed the command prompt to copy the bootmgr from the DVD to the C: dirve but it wont let me.

I dl´d the EasyBCD tool to attempt to copy the boot file to C:drive but that didnt work either.
I dl´d the partiton Wizard but chickened out on an attempt with that.

Was a bit puzzeled having a bootmgr file in the D: drive, so delated that as win7 is installed in the C: drive.
Im new at this, so all help is apreachiated, only please make it simple so i understand, thanks.

ive attached the diskmgmt.msc picture to show whats in.
system specs edited in bio.

 

[alishathomaz]

Check your optical drives, USB ports, and floppy drives for media.

Note: If you find that this is the cause of your issue and it's happening regularly, you might want to consider changing the boot order in BIOS so the hard drive is listed as the first boot device.

Perform a Startup Repair of Windows. This type of installation should replace any missing or corrupt files, including BOOTMGR.

Even though a Startup Repair is a common solution for BOOTMGR problems, don't worry if it doesn't fix your problem. Just continue troubleshooting - something will work.

 

[Kaktussoft]

G´day. Been reading and installing tools etc. found on this forum in the attempt to fix my win7 install.

I hade XP installed and cleaned it out of the C:drive before installing win7.
I moved all my important data to E: drive that is a different HD.

C: & D: drives are on the same HD as partitons. D: drive I delated all data.

In bios I have the 1st boot as DVD, coz thats the only way to get win7 running.
I get the bootmgr missing message otherwise.

Ive tryed the command prompt to copy the bootmgr from the DVD to the C: dirve but it wont let me.

I dl´d the EasyBCD tool to attempt to copy the boot file to C:drive but that didnt work either.
I dl´d the partiton Wizard but chickened out on an attempt with that.

Was a bit puzzeled having a bootmgr file in the D: drive, so delated that as win7 is installed in the C: drive.
Im new at this, so all help is apreachiated, only please make it simple so i understand, thanks.

ive attached the diskmgmt.msc picture to show whats in.
system specs edited in bio.

In "disk management" screenshot I see that E is marked active(?) Is that right because I don't understand your language! Is C also marked active?

 

[Yoknee]

ive tryed the startup repair win with the CD disk several times, it always says everything is working OK.
Ive also changed the boot order in bios to HD a few times, but then i get the bootmgr missing, crtl + alt del.

sorry i dont undestand the USB ports to check.
I have Logitech steering wheel, epson printer, Olympus camera, microsoft mouse.

 

[Kaktussoft]

So if you have the DVD loaded and you get the prompt "press any key to load from cd/dvd" (or something like that), you don't press a key and win7 boots succesfully? is that what happens?

 

[Yoknee]

In "disk management" screenshot I see that E is marked active(?) Is that right because I don't understand your language! Is C also marked active?

E is marked "Working, logical drive"
C and D are marked "actiive"

 

[Yoknee]

So if you have the DVD loaded and you get the prompt "press any key to load from cd/dvd" (or something like that), you don't press a key and win7 boots succesfully? is that what happens?

yes, it will boot win7 up working all right.

 

[Kaktussoft]

In "disk management" screenshot I see that E is marked active(?) Is that right because I don't understand your language! Is C also marked active?

E is marked "Working, logical drive"
C and D are marked "actiive"

Is bootmenu on D or C?
in http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/783-elevated-command-prompt.html

bcdedit

Now you see something like this

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit
Windows-opstartbeheer
---------------------
id {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
path \bootmgr
description Windows Boot Manager
locale nl-NL
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {fa1a7f9d-ab26-11df-bc4f-ce7145d50d35}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 10

What is listed after device (marked red)?

 

[Kaktussoft]

G´day. Been reading and installing tools etc. found on this forum in the attempt to fix my win7 install.

I hade XP installed and cleaned it out of the C:drive before installing win7.
I moved all my important data to E: drive that is a different HD.

C: & D: drives are on the same HD as partitons. D: drive I delated all data.

In bios I have the 1st boot as DVD, coz thats the only way to get win7 running.
I get the bootmgr missing message otherwise.

Ive tryed the command prompt to copy the bootmgr from the DVD to the C: dirve but it wont let me.

I dl´d the EasyBCD tool to attempt to copy the boot file to C:drive but that didnt work either.
I dl´d the partiton Wizard but chickened out on an attempt with that.

Was a bit puzzeled having a bootmgr file in the D: drive, so delated that as win7 is installed in the C: drive.
Im new at this, so all help is apreachiated, only please make it simple so i understand, thanks.

ive attached the diskmgmt.msc picture to show whats in.
system specs edited in bio.

In screenshot I see D as primary and active I assume(?) So it's not the boot drive. Mark it inactive!

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/71432-partition-mark-active.html
Use diskpart in elevated command prompt . In step 6 type inactive instead of active.

done?

 

[Yoknee]

Microsoft Windows [versio 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Kaikki oikeudet pidätetään.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit

Windowsin käynnistyksen hallintaohjelma
---------------------------------------
tunnus {bootmgr}
device boot
path \bootmgr
description Windows Boot Manager
locale fi-FI
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {-----------------------}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windowsin lataaminen
--------------------
tunnus {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale fi-FI
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {---------------------}
nx OptIn

C:\Windows\system32>

 

[Kaktussoft]

Because win7 is starting fine with DVD inserted it must be a small problem. Let me explain waht's the difference

from DVD:

• system reads bootsector of dvd and executes it. It displays "press any key to start from cd/dvd".
• You don't press a key so it continues to start from harddisk.
• It searches for first active partition and loads its bootsector. Or it loads bootmgr directly (no sure, but I think the first)

For hardisk:

• it loads and executes MBR. Simple small program that looks for first active partition and loads and excutes it's bootsector
• in bootsector is code to load bootmgr
• bootmgr reads the bcd menu and you can select an operating system (not displayed as you have only one)

MBR is fine. At least I think he loads bootsector. Then he can't find bootmgr?? (message comes from bootsector).
Maybe bootsector is corrupt and looks on wrong folder?
Maybe MBR is corrupt (but then this message shouldn't appear). Maybe this is a fake message from a mbr-virus?

Totally confused. Have seen this 2 times earlier!! I know a solution. First waiting for reply

 

[Kaktussoft]

Microsoft Windows [versio 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Kaikki oikeudet pidätetään.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit

Windowsin käynnistyksen hallintaohjelma
---------------------------------------
tunnus {bootmgr}
device boot
path \bootmgr
description Windows Boot Manager
locale fi-FI
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {-----------------------}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windowsin lataaminen
--------------------
tunnus {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale fi-FI
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {---------------------}
nx OptIn

C:\Windows\system32>

Bootmenu is fine. Did you already mark D as inactive?

 

[Kaktussoft]

delete d:\bootmgr and d:\boot (folder) as well. They are useless!! Both are hidden system files.
Nothing to do with problem btw. Mark D as inactive

 

[Kaktussoft]

You know this screen because you did startup repair


Select "command prompt" there. Now do:

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot

Both commands are executed succesfuly? If so, try to reboot normally
(you can also execute only one of the commands to see if that's enough)


The /FixMbr option writes a Windows 7 or Windows Vista-compatible MBR to the system partition. This option does not overwrite the existing partition table. Use this option when you must resolve MBR corruption issues, or when you have to remove non-standard code from the MBR.


The /FixBoot option writes a new boot sector to the system partition by using a boot sector that is compatible with Windows Vista or Windows 7.

 

[Yoknee]

Bootmenu is fine. Did you already mark D as inactive?[/QUOTE]

ive now sucessfully marked D drive as inactive. Just took me some time to get the PC back up but still hade to with the CD.

 

[Yoknee]

delete d:\bootmgr and d:\boot (folder) as well. They are useless!! Both are hidden system files.
Nothing to do with problem btw. Mark D as inactive

i did have a bootmgr file in there, but delated that some time ago already.
never seen a boot folder in the D though. I also opened up the hidden files and D drive is empty.

 

[Kaktussoft]

delete d:\bootmgr and d:\boot (folder) as well. They are useless!! Both are hidden system files.
Nothing to do with problem btw. Mark D as inactive

i did have a bootmgr file in there, but delated that some time ago already.
never seen a boot folder in the D though. I also opened up the hidden files and D drive is empty.

You can see that boot folder on C? It should be there is definitely there. Has nothing to do with problem btw

 

[Kaktussoft]

In recovery environment->command prompt

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot

Already done? That should solve the problem

 

[Duzzy]

Do you have the bootmgr file in C:?

 

[Yoknee]

In recovery environment->command prompt

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot

Already done? That should solve the problem

ok did that now.
when restarted it pulled out the CD and it didnt work, got a message something that boot dosnt work, then hade to go back into the repair/recovery to get it back up with the CD.
btw. i dont have an other PC here, so this is the only way to get online.

Yes, C drive has a boot folder in the windows folder.