Budget Custom Build!

[Dimerz]

Hello everyone,

This is going to be my first custom build and If i could get any tips on this build that im planning to build that'd be great:
i3 4170
ASRock B85M-DGS LGA1150
8GB Kingston 1x8
1TB Seagate
XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB
Deepcool Tesseract case
450W Antec Green Power Supply

Any comments and input to the design is appreciated.

Updated version:
So this is what my final build will be without the msi gtx 960 4gb , ignore the Lian-Li case i just put that there for pricing.I really like this case (KENDOMEN) and a case wont be changed for a long time so, i cant resist, the low and high feature for the fans is a nice function, the overall design and so ill be picking this case!

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Provide this info:

1: your absolute maximum budget, in your currency
2: links to the web sites from which you are willing to buy
3: primary and secondary purposes of the PC

 

[Dimerz]

1. Around £350-400
2. Amazon, neeegg, ebay (if reliable), got this build from pc part picker.
3. Primary: be able to play and stream minecraft, play gta v at a suitable fps and maybe some battlefield.
Secondry: Use photoshop, dreamweaver, technically all the adobe programs and use c++, java, html, all the programming
software.

 

[Layback Bear]

To do all this from your post #3.

Secondry: Use photoshop, dreamweaver, technically all the adobe programs and use c++, java, html, all the programming
software.

It wouldn't be hard to spend £350-400 just on ram to make things run properly.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Does Newegg ship to the UK?

Newegg prices are in dollars. Amazon prices are in dollars.

How do you propose to buy from Newegg using pounds?

Do you mean Amazon UK?

Or are you in the USA?

400 pounds is just about $600 US.

Will you have to pay VAT in addition to the US dollar price shown at Newegg and Amazon?

Please clarify, ideally with actual links to the actual sites from which you will buy.

 

[Dimerz]

Amazon and Newegg are both able to change currencies to pounds and are both able to ship to the UK.
DEEPCOOL TESSERACT SW Mid Tower Computer Case with Side Window and 2 Blue LED Fans SGCC+PLASTIC+RUBBER COATING - Newegg.com

Has links for the items at the bottom.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/JWfrxr/500-bang-for-buck-pc-build-intel-i3-4170r9-380

I am from the UK, Based in London.

Not really to worried about the VAT.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Off the top of my head:

See what you can do with current generation parts, such as:

Intel Core i3-6100 3M 3.7 GHz LGA 1151 BX80662I36100 Desktop Processor - Newegg.com

GIGABYTE GA-Z170-HD3P (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Memory Kit Model F4-2400C15D-8GRR - Newegg.com

Above CPU, motherboard, and RAM total about $270 (177 pounds).

GIGABYTE GA-H110M-A (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel H110 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

Above is a decent cheaper motherboard. $56, suitable for current generation processors.

Case is personal preference, I'll leave it to you.

I'd try to steer you away from Seagate drives if possible. Consider Western Digital or Hitachi. Ideally, you'd want an SSD, but maybe your budget can't handle it.

If gaming is your first priority, I'd assume the graphics card is more important to you than an SSD.

The above CPU is a dual core. You'd undoubtedly benefit from a low end quad core. I think the lowest priced quad core from the current generation is the i5-6400, which sells for about $185 at Newegg.

The most powerful dual core from the current generation, as far as I can see, is the i3-6320. It clocks at 3.90 and sells for around $160, if you can find it.

The Skylake Core i3-6320 is the gamer's new best friend - The Tech Report

Intel® Coreâ„¢ i3-6320 Processor (4M Cache, 3.90 GHz) Specifications

I'm frankly not sure how much gaming benefits from quad core. You've got to decide on how to split the budget between CPU and video card and it may be that you are better off with a strong dual core and a strong video card, rather than a lower level quad core and a slightly weaker video card. I don't know enough about gaming to tell you.

But you've also got those secondary tasks. Normally, the advice is to go quad core if at all possible, but you may be an exception due to your budget.

Try to think in terms of current generation parts if possible. There's no over-riding reason to go with the earlier generations.

 

[Dimerz]

If needed, i can buy the parts seperatly over time if i have to buy a better quad core and get an alright graphics card.
Ill check out what their capble of doing later on and ill give some feedback. Thanks for the help so far.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

Check the above link for Passmark CPU benchmarks; it will give you a rough idea of the raw horsepower of your possible CPU choices.

Here's some scores:

i3-4170 dual core: 5163; single thread 2135
i3-6100 dual core: 5406; single thread 2047
i3-6320 dual core: 5773; single thread 2202
i5-6400 quad core: 6479; single thread 1793

Buying parts over time can be a problem. Suppose you buy RAM in November and the rest of the parts the next February. If the RAM is defective, you would not know it until February when you tried to assemble the parts into a PC. The vendor probably would not let you RMA the RAM in February, 90 days after you bought it. If at all possible, I'd just stockpile more money and buy all of it within a week.

 

[AddRAM]

Don`t waste your money on a 1 TB Seagate just yet, get a 120/128 GB SSD for the same price for the Operating System, you can buy a 1 TB drive for storage later.

SSD 850 EVO 2.5" SATA III 120GB | Samsung Solid State Drives

or get the best Samsung ssd available.

SSD 850 PRO 2.5” SATA III MZ-7KE128BW | Memory & Storage

Ignatz has said to stay away from Seagates, but they are fine drives along with Western Digitals, I recommend both.

Seagate Barracudas or Western Digital Blues for storage, Blacks are not really needed for storage, maybe if you were going to install your games on them, then ya get a black.

 

[Dimerz]

get a 120/128 GB SSD for the same price for the Operating System, you can buy a 1 TB drive for storage later.

I disagree with this as i find it a waste of money to buy a ssd when i can just buy the 1TB, if i buy the ssd then the 1TB it would be more expensive than just buying a 1TB straight away. Do you see where im coming from?

 

[Mellon Head]

While you are correct, I think AddRAM is suggesting the SSD for the speed and performance advantages. An SSD will run your system at warp speed, while the 1 TB will be a dog, performance wise. You may decide to get an SSD later, but it will be more difficult to clone your OS to an SSD if it is sitting on a 1 TB drive, no?

 

[ThrashZone]

get a 120/128 GB SSD for the same price for the Operating System, you can buy a 1 TB drive for storage later.

Do you see where im coming from?

No not at all unless you're simply not willing to spend the money for one of the best upgrades to a machine first
Hdd's bite and are only for data not os's
The only thing I would disagree with is you should get a larger ssd
120-128gb is way too small
250-256gb is more realistic.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

The OP has already stated he has a budget of about 600 and is primarily a gamer.

Take him at his word. I'd think CPU and video card are higher priorities than drives in his use case. He also needs to buy case, RAM, motherboard, and power supply: 7 items total.

Come up with a selection of parts for him from Newegg or Amazon that includes an SSD and a HD and all the other parts for 600 that is optimized for gaming, with Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and programming as a secondary purpose.

 

[ThrashZone]

Gaming and 600.us/ uk... don't mix unless the 600 was just for buying a bunch of games

 

[Solarstarshines]

Gaming and 600.us/ uk... don't mix unless the 600 was just for buying a bunch of games

I have to Agree $600 US will get you a few parts to start

You want to have a decent budget or better yet figure out what you can do without until you get more cash

Like you can get a mid Range GPU if you can't afford a nice one but save money and return it for the better one

Most people on tight budgets do this without any long term suffering also gives you a chance to catch brand new tech while upgrading

I waiting till after haswell for 6th generation and crossing over from a 3770k to a 6700k well it was all good in the end and worth it

 

[Layback Bear]

Wow; I just looked at the prices of Corsair DDR-3 ram.

I had no idea the price of ram had dropped to low.

Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866 MHZ (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory (CMD16GX3M2A1866C9) at Amazon.com

 

[AddRAM]

A CPU and a Board built for gaming will eat up $600 easy

My latest purchase

Sabertooth Z170 $260
6700K (Overkill) $329 + $20 Tax = $350
32 GB Dominator Platinum 2666 (overkill) $315

That`s $925

And that`s not including $140 for the Samsung 850 Pro, or the $1400 I spent in May for the 2 980Ti`s, or the $200+ for the PSU but you see how easily it adds up.

You can buy a 1 TB Hard drive for under $60, at least we can anyway

Putting windows on a hard drive is a waste of time, but do what you wanna do.

 

[Dimerz]

But thats probably because its not your first build AddRam, i can always upgrade this build after and so i think getting the ssd will be more clever to keep the OS on. What are the advantages of having a ssd or hdd?

 

[AddRAM]

"and so i think getting the ssd will be more clever to keep the OS on"

There you go, now you`re talking sense

Everyone`s told you what the advantages are, it`s like night and day.

And you are right it`s not my first build, it`s taken me over 3 years to get this far, and I`ve just bought everything for my Z170 build and I`m willing to scrap my 6 month old Z87, I know, I`m crazy

Our point is, don`t waste money buying a hard drive for windows, put it on a ssd, you can get a hard drive next week or next month.

Just as an example, I was in Micro Center getting my 6700K when I saw they had 1 TB WD Blacks for $59.99 and Blues were only $39.99, If I had more money with me I would`ve gotten 2 blacks for that price.