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[ignatzatsonic]

But thats probably because its not your first build AddRam, i can always upgrade this build after and so i think getting the ssd will be more clever to keep the OS on. What are the advantages of having a ssd or hdd?

You notice the SSD mostly in boot speed and anything that is disk intensive, such as virus scans or opening big applications. You don't notice it for stuff like looking at this forum. Gamers say it doesn't make much difference for games either--they load faster, but that's about it.

If you are going to build now and upgrade continually over time, you should concentrate on the foundation parts--stuff that you likely won't upgrade for several years---case, motherboard, processor, and RAM.

There's a big difference between a 400 pound budget for the next 3 years and a 400 pound budget today and say another 150 pounds in 3 months. If I knew I could add in another 150 pounds in 3 months, I'd probably build the thing without a video card and just use integrated video for the first 3 months.

If you did that, you'd have a mediocre gaming system for 3 months, but you could buy better foundation parts today. After 3 months, buy a video card.

The 150 pounds you don't spend today on a video card could be spent on an SSD, HD, better case, and stronger processor.

 

[ThrashZone]

i can always upgrade this build after and so i think getting the ssd will be more clever to keep the OS on. What are the advantages of having a ssd or hdd?

Things you really don't want to upgrade later to me are
Case
PSU
Motherboard
And what you install windows on.

I agree an hdd compared with a ssd is night and day otherwise there is no comparison it's the single best thing to add to any system.
You should also install programs on the ssd that's why a 250gb is better room to grow.

 

[Dimerz]

Grrr, thinking if i should get a better processor but then not buying the video card till i can. But that possibly means buying a new motherboard etc.

 

[Dimerz]

Any builds that you would recommend me to make for a budget of £300
Also, how do these compare:
BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - Black - Aria Technology
1TB Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 3.5" SATA III Hard Drive - HDD - Aria PC
24x LiteOn Internal DVD-RW Drive - Aria Technology
AMD (Piledriver) FX-6300 3.50GHz (4.10GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 6-Core Processor - Retail - Aria PC
8GB (2x4GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 - Aria Technology
Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Dual-X Boost OC AMD Graphics Card 2GB Graphics Card - Aria Technology
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P AMD Socket AM3+ Motherboard - Aria Technology
500W - EVGA 80+ White Rated Power Supply - Aria Technology

DVD not necessarily needed right now and the hdd can be switched for an ssd.

 

[Dimerz]

Couldnt attach more than one image in the above post so here:

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Regarding the processors in your above posts; Passmark scores are:

Pentium G850: 2688; single thread 1492

AMD FX-6300: 6345; single thread 1409

AMD FX-8320: 8326; single thread 1397

The AMDs are 6 and 8 core, respectively, but I'm not sure gaming makes much use of that many cores. The Intel has 2 cores.

Here's the scores on the other processors you were talking about earlier in this thread:

i3-4170 dual core: 5163; single thread 2135
i3-6100 dual core: 5406; single thread 2047
i3-6320 dual core: 5773; single thread 2202
i5-6400 quad core: 6479; single thread 1793

I'm not sure what you mean by this:

"Grrr, thinking if i should get a better processor but then not buying the video card till i can. But that possibly means buying a new motherboard etc."

If you buy a new motherboard next week and build a PC without a video card, why wouldn't you be able to continue to use that same motherboard later if you later buy a video card?

I'd get:

A decent case, maybe not exactly what you want; say 50 US
A decent socket 1151 motherboard; say 100 US
The strongest Intel i-5 processor I could afford.
No video card yet
8 GB RAM; 55 US
An SSD eventually, but not necessarily now if your budget can't fit it.
A good power supply; 75 US; look at the Seasonic G450 for 70
A standard hard drive; 60 US

That's 340 US, plus processor.

You can get a strong Intel quad core processor for less than 200, on up.

If you splurge on the video card now and go cheap on the CPU, motherboard, and power supply, you'll likely regret it as soon as you can afford a video card.

 

[Dimerz]

The fx 8320 can you over clock it? and im guessing ill need a aftermarket cpu cooler

 

[ignatzatsonic]

[OFFICIAL] FX-8320/FX-8350 Vishera Owners Club

Yeah, you can overclock it; I don't know how much or how easily.

You'd need a replacement cooler to do a significant overclock.

 

[ThrashZone]

Here's some examples of budget gaming rigs,
Digital Storm VANQUISH 4 Custom Performance PC
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[Mellon Head]

The fx 8320 can you over clock it? and im guessing ill need a aftermarket cpu cooler

The FX series chips are made to overclock, but you'll have to get a really good CPU cooler if you want to OC one of them. They run really hot (I know, I have an 8350). I would suggest an all in one water cooler like the Corsair H100i, or something like that.

Keep in mind that the 8320 is not a true 8 core CPU. It's a quad core with another 4 virtual cores, in AMD's version of Hyperthreading. It's a bit misleading since they market it as an eight core CPU. Based on my own experience, they also underperform compared to a lot of Intel quad cores which cost only marginally more. And while it is nice to have eight cores, and be able to have many things open at once and not slow down, an eight core is pretty much overkill, and would be a waste considering your budget.

All in all, you'd be better off with an Intel processor.

 

[Dimerz]

Switching the build up a little after i done some research, this is what ive come up with so far.

PSU - EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR - 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
The rest, hdd/sdd missing, will either use existing hdd or wait till i can buy a new ssd/hdd -

 

[Mellon Head]

The motherboard and the CPU are not the same socket version. You'll need a motherboard with an 1151 socket to use that Skylake processor. The CPU won't fit in the motherboard that you have chosen.

 

[Dimerz]

This motherboard any good, i see it can take up to 32GB ram and the rams compatible right?

 

[Solarstarshines]

The fx 8320 can you over clock it? and im guessing ill need a aftermarket cpu cooler

Yes you can and may i suggest the FX8320E it is the baby brother but still overclocks the same is only $99.99 us

Here is a shot of my FX Build http://www.sevenforums.com/pc-custom-builds-overclocking/329173-show-us-your-rig-8-a-124.html

 

[Solarstarshines]

This motherboard any good, i see it can take up to 32GB ram and the rams compatible right?

FYI Intel doesn't ship stock coolers anymore

 

[ignatzatsonic]

This motherboard any good, i see it can take up to 32GB ram and the rams compatible right?

FYI Intel doesn't ship stock coolers anymore

Are you sure?

My understanding was that only the K series processors shipped without a cooler.

Here's a quote in a review from one of the people who purchased it on Newegg:

"The stock cooler is really quiet and easy to install/uninstall. The CPU doesn't need much cooling anyway because of the relatively low 65w TDP."

That motherboard should work.

That processor is a non-K model, so isn't overclockable to any noticeable degree. But it's plenty strong enough for your purposes at the stock clock.

 

[Solarstarshines]

This motherboard any good, i see it can take up to 32GB ram and the rams compatible right?

FYI Intel doesn't ship stock coolers anymore

Are you sure?

My understanding was that only the K series processors shipped without a cooler.

Here's a quote in a review from one of the people who purchased it on Newegg:

"The stock cooler is really quiet and easy to install/uninstall. The CPU doesn't need much cooling anyway because of the relatively low 65w TDP."

That motherboard should work.

That processor is a non-K model, so isn't overclockable to any noticeable degree. But it's plenty strong enough for your purposes at the stock clock.

Maybe your right but i heard they wern't and i did get a 6700k without one as well

 

[AddRAM]

The one he has looks like it comes with a paperweight, doorstop, I mean cooler

The K`s and E`s don`t, You can tell how skinny the box is next to the Samsung.

 

[Dimerz]

The one he has looks like it comes with a paperweight, doorstop, I mean cooler

The K`s and E`s don`t, You can tell how skinny the box is next to the Samsung.

Wow nice. So am i good with the parts, what do i do about the ssd/hdd use my old hdd or buy a new one when i can?

 

[Dimerz]

If you are going to build now and upgrade continually over time, you should concentrate on the foundation parts--stuff that you likely won't upgrade for several years---case, motherboard, processor, and RAM.

There's a big difference between a 400 pound budget for the next 3 years and a 400 pound budget today and say another 150 pounds in 3 months. If I knew I could add in another 150 pounds in 3 months, I'd probably build the thing without a video card and just use integrated video for the first 3 months.

The 150 pounds you don't spend today on a video card could be spent on an SSD, HD, better case, and stronger processor.

So upgrading to an i7 and motherboard, then leaving out the gtx 950