Built Computer won't boot

Where did you get your XP copy from?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Macbook Pro 15" (2011) (Matte Version)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7
CPU
Intel Core i7 2820QM 2.3GHz (Quad-Core)
Motherboard
N/A
Memory
8GB 1333 MHz PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM
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ATI Radeon HD 6750M (1GB, GDDR5)
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N/A
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1 Display
Screen Resolution
1,680 x 1050 (Matte Screen, Anti-Glare)
Hard Drives
750GB SATA (5400 rpm)
WD My Passport Essential 1TB Portable Hard Drive
PSU
N/A
Case
N/A
Cooling
N/A
Keyboard
Apple Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Apple Wireless Magic Mouse
Internet Speed
Max - 2.2MB/sec; DSL provided by Telecom NZ
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MS Office Professional 2010
McAfee Total Protection 2011
On a Laptop Stand (Hand-Built)
The disc is fine. It's a paid for. I always keep an iso handy of all my installation discs incase something like this happens. I burnt off another copy as the original is pretty scratched, but that is irrelevant as I made the iso when the disc was brand new.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Celeron
Other Info
I will Fill in my Specs soon
IS there any way possible that some component in the computer is wrecking my Hard Drives? Its a huge coincidence that none of them will work.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Celeron
Other Info
I will Fill in my Specs soon
IS there any way possible that some component in the computer is wrecking my Hard Drives? Its a huge coincidence that none of them will work.

A damaged power supply can damage drives, but judging by what has been posted up to now you are trying to work with some pretty old stuff, and that is very rarely a good idea.

Regards....Mike Connor
 

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OS
Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
So do you think if I got a new HDD and RAM that it will be ok?

Here is my system specs which I forgot to post:
2 x 512mb ddr2 533 RAM
Pentium Dual Core 2.2Ghz
ECS 671T-M 775 Motherboard
420W PSU

These are the HDDs I was messing with:
DiamondMax® VL 40 -20GB
Seagate ST320414A - 20GB


I'd really like to fix this. I've been working a long time to gather the parts to build this computer and now this happens :(
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Celeron
Other Info
I will Fill in my Specs soon
All those parts are ancient, including the motherboard! I would not waste any time on it. If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle, then get another board and use new parts.

I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU´s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU´s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.

Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.

Regards....Mike Connor
 

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OS
Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
I'm sorry but aren't newer components available in Newzealand?
Those parts are 4-5 years old, excluding the HDDs which are 10+ years old.

Now not taking your monetary situation into account certainly you can find newer parts in your part of the world.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built be Me
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i5 760
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E Pro
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTS450
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2007WFP Dell 1800FP
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate 250GB & 750GB
WD 1TB
PSU
Antec 750
Case
In Win
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Keyboard
IBM
Mouse
MS
All those parts are ancient, including the motherboard! I would not waste any time on it. If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle, then get another board and use new parts.

I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU´s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU´s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.

Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.

Regards....Mike Connor
I purposely bought these components because they were cheap and suited my needs. I was going to create a windows xp home server. These parts seemed to fit the bill. I have already spent over $120 on this computer I can't just throw the parts away. I'm not prepared to spend over $150 on this machine which is just going to be a simple one. It's just a huge hassle, I know :(.

@Shootist, there certainly is new parts in NZ its just that I wanted to do this cheap.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Celeron
Other Info
I will Fill in my Specs soon
All those parts are ancient, including the motherboard! I would not waste any time on it. If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle, then get another board and use new parts.

I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU´s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU´s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.

Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.

Regards....Mike Connor
I purposely bought these components because they were cheap and suited my needs. I was going to create a windows xp home server. These parts seemed to fit the bill. I have already spent over $120 on this computer I can't just throw the parts away. I'm not prepared to spend over $150 on this machine which is just going to be a simple one. It's just a huge hassle, I know :(.

@Shootist, there certainly is new parts in NZ its just that I wanted to do this cheap.

Cheap is only sensible if it works! :) If you just want to run an XP server, then you can get boards for 50$ (NZ) or less which will do what you want. Maybe the old discs will work on them;

Motherboards - Find the best prices, information and user reviews

You can probably buy a complete second hand machine for 50$ if you look around.

Parts which don't work or are unreliable are never cheap. They are invariably the most expensive in the long run.

Regards....Mike Connor
 

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OS
Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
The $50 New motherboards are from untrusted NZ shops though. I got my current MOBO for $50, the CPU for $40. I see what you mean though. This is a kind of tricky situation. Do you know how we could fix this?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Celeron
Other Info
I will Fill in my Specs soon
The $50 New motherboards are from untrusted NZ shops though. I got my current MOBO for $50, the CPU for $40. I see what you mean though. This is a kind of tricky situation. Do you know how we could fix this?

I don't see any way how anybody here can help you to fix it. Not only is it outside the parameters of this forum, which is concerned primarily with Windows 7, there is no sensible way to troubleshoot old stuff like that "from afar". In order to experiment with gear like that you need to know exactly what you are doing, you need to research very carefully in order to get compatible parts, you need the test equipment and software to test things, and most of the time you will still end up with an outdated, unreliable, and less than stellar performing machine.

Basically, it is just not worth it. Practically any trained technician will tell you to throw it in the recycle bin, and most of them would do likewise. There is a point in all these things beyond which it is simply not sensible to go.

Regards....Mike Connor
 

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OS
Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Not sure if Dell is in your part of the world but they sell off lease complete computers for around your top limit.
they are working PCs, for the most part.

If you go into a PC shop I bet they have some old working PCs that they are just DYING to get rid of.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built be Me
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
i5 760
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E Pro
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTS450
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2007WFP Dell 1800FP
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate 250GB & 750GB
WD 1TB
PSU
Antec 750
Case
In Win
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Keyboard
IBM
Mouse
MS
The $50 New motherboards are from untrusted NZ shops though. I got my current MOBO for $50, the CPU for $40. I see what you mean though. This is a kind of tricky situation. Do you know how we could fix this?

I don't see any way how anybody here can help you to fix it. Not only is it outside the parameters of this forum, which is concerned primarily with Windows 7, there is no sensible way to troubleshoot old stuff like that "from afar". In order to experiment with gear like that you need to know exactly what you are doing, you need to research very carefully in order to get compatible parts, you need the test equipment to test things, and most of the time you will still end up with an outdated, unreliable, and less than stellar performing machine.

Basically, it is just not worth it. Practically any trained technician will tell you to throw it in the recycle bin, and most of them would do likewise. There is a point in all these things beyond which it is simply not sensible to go.

Regards....Mike Connor
I thought it might fit into this forum because my Windows 7 computers will be connecting to the server. I'm going to need to find out how.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Celeron
Other Info
I will Fill in my Specs soon
I thought it might fit into this forum because my Windows 7 computers will be connecting to the server. I'm going to need to find out how.

I am not the arbiter of what is proper on these forums, and if I could see any way to help you, I would try. I don't.

Resurrecting old hardware, or getting it to work together with new stuff, is hard enough for highly trained technicians with a lot of knowledge and experience, and the equipment and software which allows them to test it. Doing it "on the fly" as you describe, is more or less an impossible task, because you simply do not know what is going on. You might get something workable cobbled together by "trial and error", and you might not.

You might spend a very great deal of time and effort on it, and still not get it to work.

"Cheap" is relative, a lot depends on how you value your time, and what your expectations are in respect to the time spent. If you have no reasonable chance of realising those expectations, which in this case I don't think you have, then every further cent and every further second you spend on it is wasted.

You might be able to salvage some of what you have, but before you even try that, you need to do a lot of research into what parts are compatible with others, and also if the parts you have are even useable. The only way to do that is to have some sort of working "testbed" for those parts.

Working with so many unknowns is more or less doomed to failure.

Regards....Mike Connor
 

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OS
Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Guys , we should be trying to help and that means suggesting fixes and not necessarily panning a system. I am running windows 7 32 bit quite happily on a Core 2 Duo. It is not helpful to those that can't or don't need to splash the cash for the latest and greatest.

One thing you might like to look at Bituser is your PSU which is boardering on under power for a modern system requirement. Try a 600W or greater if you can. With respect to your hard drives, it may pay you to reformat the bigger drive and start again with XP and when you can get at least 2 * 1GB RAM sticks, go for windows 7. Hope this helps... Good luck
 

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OS
win7
Guys , we should be trying to help and that means suggesting fixes and not necessarily panning a system. I am running windows 7 32 bit quite happily on a Core 2 Duo. It is not helpful to those that can't or don't need to splash the cash for the latest and greatest.

One thing you might like to look at Bituser is your PSU which is boardering on under power for a modern system requirement. Try a 600W or greater if you can. With respect to your hard drives, it may pay you to reformat the bigger drive and start again with XP and when you can get at least 2 * 1GB RAM sticks, go for windows 7. Hope this helps... Good luck

Your Windows 7 32 is obviously running on a working system.

He does not have a system, working or otherwise, and certainly not "Modern", what he has is a nondescript collection of ancient and uncertain hardware, which apparently doesn't work when assembled.

What he wants is assistance in assembling that hardware into a workable system. I know of no sensible way to do this, and advising him to buy a new power supply is quite pointless, it will not solve any of his problems, unless the one he has happens to be defective, which nobody knows.

Finally, he does not want to install Windows 7 on it, he wants to install XP on it.

Nobody here has "panned" anything at all. Merely pointed out the futility inherent in such an undertaking.

Regards....Mike Connor
 
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Re Windows 7...I read in OP that they tried to boot up from A windows 7 external hard drive. Apart from that suggesting that he obtain a new power supply is not as pointless as you suggest.

My comment re "Panning" was covered in the following statement from an earlier post:
"I don't see any way how anybody here can help you to fix it. Not only is it outside the parameters of this forum, which is concerned primarily with Windows 7, there is no sensible way to troubleshoot old stuff like that "from afar"

I was just trying to be slightly more helpful instead of telling OP that his efforts would be "futile".

No insult was intended in my post.
 

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OS
win7
No insult was intended in my post.

Nor in mine, merely trying to be realistic.

For many years I was constantly faced with similar problems, as were many of my technicians. In some cases we went ahead and repaired or rebuilt old systems and hardware, after consulting with the customer and getting his go-ahead, usually because for some reason or other the customer was dependent on it for compatibility, a specific function, or some other reason.

In the majority of cases, the cost of troubleshooting old hardware and setting up systems using it, is more than the cost of a new system, often very considerably more.

Private individuals can spend as much time as they like in attempting repairs or builds like this using old stuff, and if you play around with some things long enough you may get them to work, or you may not. If any of the parts are defective, then you wont.

If you do not know which parts may be defective then you also wont, because it makes no difference how you assemble them, the resulting system will not work.

The OP stated that he did not want to spend any more money on the project. Without some new parts of good quality and provenance it is unlikely that the project will succeed. This is mainly because there is no way of knowing which parts may be defective, and the OP has no way except trial and error to test that.

The possible combinations of defective hardware are more or less infinite.

Changing any one component is extremely unlikely to solve the basic problem. You have to KNOW which parts are defective.

Finding one defect in a running computer system is not usually all that difficult. Common sense and logic will usually suffice. Finding two defects which occur simultaneously is a lot harder, finding more defects is impossible without a baseline or a way of checking the components and software concerned.

Finding possible multiple defects in a "system" which will not run at all, is impossible without the right gear. Changing any one component at random is pointless. Not least because if you do that it might well be the last component you change that finally solves the issues. So you might just as well have changed them all to begin with. In the meantime you might well have damaged some of the new components as a result of combining them with old and possibly defective hardware.

Trying to diagnose things without a baseline and the wherewithal to do so is impossible. There is no way to know what works and what doesn't.

Trying to do so is invariably a futile endeavour.

Pointing this out to somebody who is trying it, because he is not aware of the problems involved, is of much greater help than suggesting random hardware changes.

Regards....Mike Connor
 

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Mr. Mike I totally agree with you. Trying to tinker with a antique car/computer might be a fun hobby but not main transportation. I for one understand being tight on money. The OP has already spent money and got nothing for it. Chasing bad money with good money is a waste of money. Informing the OP of this is a service. I got lost on the cheap server.
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PC/Desktop
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Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
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100 mbits
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
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LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
OH I have nothing against "cheap" per se, always taking into account that with many things you get what you pay for. You can build a cheap system for use as a home server quite easily and cheaply. You can do it for fifty dollars and you don't have to build anything;

Cheap NAS. Attach a USB drive to your network

There are plenty of ways to do it;

http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver

Building a powerful, cheap and silent Linux NAS and HTPC server | tjansson.dk

[Solved] Cheap NAS Build - New-System-Build - Homebuilt-Systems

FreeNAS | Download FreeNAS software for free at SourceForge.net

if you search the web you will find masses of information.

However, all these things presuppose that you have a system that actually works!

I suppose you could build a Rolls Royce from scrap parts if you could find them, and they weren't damaged or otherwise unserviceable, but I don't think you would actually be driving around in it any time soon! :)

Regards....Mike Connor
 
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