Solved Case Cooling

I have my top fan on my new build blowing into the case. This is in front of my CPU cooler which blows out to the rear exhaust fan. The only other fan I have right now is the front, which cools the hard drives, so the air is warm from it is warmed before reaching the CPU. I figured I needed a source of fresh cool air for input into the CPU cooler fan.

I may try it as input from the bottom of the case (less noise as I can seal the top of the case with a soundproof plug.

So I think it all depends. There isn't a formula - it depends on your case geometry and the other fan placements.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS
Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU
i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
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MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Onboard SupremeFX Audio
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NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
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Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
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USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
I figured I needed a source of fresh cool air for input into the CPU cooler fan.

You may consider a side case fan (blowing air in close to the CPU cooler) not necessarily with LEDs but something like This
 

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Home Built
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Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel E8400
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MSI P35 Neo
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4GB Crucial Ballistix
Graphics Card(s)
ATI ASUS Radeon HD 4830
Sound Card
Realtek ALC888 on Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 22-inch VH226H Widescreen
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two Western Digital 500GB
PSU
Hiper HPU-4M 530W
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Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Black
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Air/Fans
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Saitek Eclipse
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Razer
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Sky Broadband
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USB Hub/Card Reader - 2 Pen Drives, 1 Phone Dock
I figured I needed a source of fresh cool air for input into the CPU cooler fan.
You may consider a side case fan (blowing air in close to the CPU cooler) not necessarily with LEDs but something like This

I have a covered side vent on my case. It is not located well for this however. It is located below and a little behind my CPU. I think my best other alternative is from below, though there are some stiff power supply cables down there coming from the supply that may be in the way. UPDATE: I moved the fan to the bottom - works just as well (high 60s under full load), is quieter and there is a filter there too.

Sorry, don't mean to hijack this. Will shut up :D
 
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Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
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Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU
i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info
USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
Can someone give me some recommendations on an after market heat sink fan ? I want to do some overclocking on my system. Does water cooling work better than fan's?
 

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Custom Build
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Windows 7 Home Premium
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AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition Quad Core
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MSI 870-G45
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Corsair XMS3 8GB
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ATI Eyefinity HD 5770 5 mini display ports
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Realtek High Definition 6.1
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2 DELL E207WFP 21.5" - 1 Acer 21.5"
Screen Resolution
2 Dells 1680x1050 - Acer 1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 40GB SSD
WD 500GB internal
WD 500Gb external
PSU
Cooler Master 500w
Case
Cooler Master 430 Black Elite
Keyboard
HP
Mouse
MIBRU
Internet Speed
10 mbs
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Trend Micro
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Chrome
Water cooling allows you to cool more effectively, as liquid transfers heat 10x (or something like that) faster than air does. If you want to go water cooling, someone else will have to help, as I don't use it. Zalman fans are great, as are ThermalTake, Scythe, and Noctua. I have used all of them, but currently use a Zalman, as I get low temperatures, it is low profile, and looks awesome.
 

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Pugh Technologies
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W7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.10 GHz
Motherboard
MSI 870A-G54
Memory
PNY XLR DDR3 1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 (fermi) 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE205t, Viewsonic VX2035WM
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1600x1050
Hard Drives
977GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500AAJS-65B4A0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAJS-00A8B0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0
PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
Case
ThermalTake Armor A90 Mid Tower
Cooling
3x 120mm in, 1x 120mm & 200mm out, self built hydro-cooler
Keyboard
Logitec 55
Mouse
Razer Deathadder
Internet Speed
20 Mbps D/L, 9 Mbps U/L
So the Zalman works better than the Noctua? Which particular Zalman fan do you use?

Props Liquidsnak
 

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Custom Build
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Windows 7 Home Premium
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AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition Quad Core
Motherboard
MSI 870-G45
Memory
Corsair XMS3 8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Eyefinity HD 5770 5 mini display ports
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition 6.1
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2 DELL E207WFP 21.5" - 1 Acer 21.5"
Screen Resolution
2 Dells 1680x1050 - Acer 1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 40GB SSD
WD 500GB internal
WD 500Gb external
PSU
Cooler Master 500w
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Cooler Master 430 Black Elite
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HP
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MIBRU
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10 mbs
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Trend Micro
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Chrome
Lots of good advice in here...

One point that get's overlooked sometimes, is when deciding on new fans, and/or placement is case pressures. If you have more CFM exhausting, as opposed to intaking, your case will be under negative pressure and pull air in from any place it can. What that can do is bypass your fan filters (especially if you have unused fan slots/vents) and leave you with a dusty/dirty system sooner than you'd expect.
In short, try to have a positive case pressure using combinations of CFM, placement/direction and rpm (fan controllers are nice!)

Good Luck!
 

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Custom
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
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ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/GEN3
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
2x Radeon HD7970 Crossfire
Sound Card
On-Board / Logitech G930
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Dell u2412m
Screen Resolution
5760x1200
Hard Drives
Toshiba thns064gg2bbaa SSD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB
Intel RST SSD caching enabled
PSU
Corsair AX850
Case
Corsair Obsidian 650D
Cooling
Corsair H100
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech M510 Wireless
Internet Speed
1Mb/s
When you look to air cool, look for coolers that use two fans if space will allow and orient the fans to exhaust towards the rear case fan of even better a top exhaust fan.
 

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A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
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Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
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Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
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Basic 120mbps down
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Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
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Chrome and IE 10
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5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
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Studio XPS 435T
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Windows 7 Home Premium
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Dell/435T/9000/ i7
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Dell Inc .0x501H
Memory
12gb 1066MHZ DDR3 4DIMM
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ADM Radeon HD 6850 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
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HP w2207h
Screen Resolution
1680-1050
Hard Drives
WD 500gb 7200RPM SERIAL
ST31000528AS ATA Device 1 TB
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DELL 9000
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Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2
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Logitech Wireless Illuminated keyboard K800
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G9
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Cable

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Custom Build
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Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU
AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition Quad Core
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MSI 870-G45
Memory
Corsair XMS3 8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Eyefinity HD 5770 5 mini display ports
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition 6.1
Monitor(s) Displays
2 DELL E207WFP 21.5" - 1 Acer 21.5"
Screen Resolution
2 Dells 1680x1050 - Acer 1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 40GB SSD
WD 500GB internal
WD 500Gb external
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Cooler Master 500w
Case
Cooler Master 430 Black Elite
Keyboard
HP
Mouse
MIBRU
Internet Speed
10 mbs
Antivirus
Trend Micro
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Chrome
Lots of good advice in here...

One point that get's overlooked sometimes, is when deciding on new fans, and/or placement is case pressures. If you have more CFM exhausting, as opposed to intaking, your case will be under negative pressure and pull air in from any place it can. What that can do is bypass your fan filters (especially if you have unused fan slots/vents) and leave you with a dusty/dirty system sooner than you'd expect.
In short, try to have a positive case pressure using combinations of CFM, placement/direction and rpm (fan controllers are nice!)

Good Luck!

What is CFM? I have 5 fans all together...one blowing out in back, one blowing in from the front, one in side blowing in, one in the bottom blowing in, and one in top blowing out.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU
AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition Quad Core
Motherboard
MSI 870-G45
Memory
Corsair XMS3 8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Eyefinity HD 5770 5 mini display ports
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition 6.1
Monitor(s) Displays
2 DELL E207WFP 21.5" - 1 Acer 21.5"
Screen Resolution
2 Dells 1680x1050 - Acer 1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 40GB SSD
WD 500GB internal
WD 500Gb external
PSU
Cooler Master 500w
Case
Cooler Master 430 Black Elite
Keyboard
HP
Mouse
MIBRU
Internet Speed
10 mbs
Antivirus
Trend Micro
Browser
Chrome
Lots of good advice in here...

One point that get's overlooked sometimes, is when deciding on new fans, and/or placement is case pressures. If you have more CFM exhausting, as opposed to intaking, your case will be under negative pressure and pull air in from any place it can. What that can do is bypass your fan filters (especially if you have unused fan slots/vents) and leave you with a dusty/dirty system sooner than you'd expect.
In short, try to have a positive case pressure using combinations of CFM, placement/direction and rpm (fan controllers are nice!)

Good Luck!

What is CFM? I have 5 fans all together...one blowing out in back, one blowing in from the front, one in side blowing in, one in the bottom blowing in, and one in top blowing out.

Cubic Feet per Minute. A meausre used to describe how much air a fan (or other devices) can move. Notice the CFM listed on all these fans here? Hopefully that makes more sense now ;)
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel i5-2500k
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ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/GEN3
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16GB
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2x Radeon HD7970 Crossfire
Sound Card
On-Board / Logitech G930
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3x Dell u2412m
Screen Resolution
5760x1200
Hard Drives
Toshiba thns064gg2bbaa SSD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB
Intel RST SSD caching enabled
PSU
Corsair AX850
Case
Corsair Obsidian 650D
Cooling
Corsair H100
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Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech M510 Wireless
Internet Speed
1Mb/s
@ Case1

Just add two top exhaust fans and your good to go [2 x intake (front/side) plus 3 x exhaust (top/back)].

IMO, swapping the side fan to the bottom as an intake would be better but could result with more dust entering the case if there's no fan filter. Having both side and bottom fan would disrupt airflow, it's better to have just one of the two (side or bottom) while keeping two on top as exhaust.

These are great Zalman fans: ::: Zalman, leading the world of Quiet Computing Solutions :::

Just make sure you get a few of these to go with them to run them in 5v: ::: Zalman, leading the world of Quiet Computing Solutions :::


:p
 

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Windows 7 Professional
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Intel Core i7-2670QM
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Samsung 8GB
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NVIDIA GT 555M
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Intel 525 120GB | HGST Travelstar 1TB
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CM Storm Xornet | Microsoft Sculpt Comfort
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25 Mbps | 600 Kbps
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Centrino 6205 | Seagate Backup Plus 1TB
For my setup at least, I found having the top 200mm fan as intake lowered temps more than having it as exhaust. I have 2 x 200mm front (bottom) intake, 2 x 140mm front (in the 5 1/4 bays) intake, 140mm bottom intake, 200mm side intake, 200mm top intake. I have the 2 x TY-140s on my Silver Arrow blowing out the back through a 140mm Ultra Kaze 3000 exhaust.

Not the quietest setup but I don't mind a little noise; I like things cool.

Air Flow.jpg
 
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tw33k
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Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
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Intel 3770k 4.6GHz
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ASUS Maximus V Formula
Memory
8GB (2x 4GB) Crucial Ballistix
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Sapphire 7950 (1060/1600)
Sound Card
On Board Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Acer B273HU (via HDMI)
Screen Resolution
2048 x 1152
Hard Drives
Crucial M4 128GB
2TB WD Black
1TB Samsung F3 SATA
1TB WD Elite External
2TB WD USB 3.0
PSU
Corsair AX750 Gold
Case
Corsair Obsidian 800DW
Cooling
Corsair H100 (2x AP-121/2x UK-3000 push/pull)
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 5000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
5mb/s
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Logitech z-2300 2.1 speakers
Lamptron FC-5 v2
Thank you Nemix77 and tw33k for the help...now I am confused on which way to go lol.
 

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Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU
AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition Quad Core
Motherboard
MSI 870-G45
Memory
Corsair XMS3 8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Eyefinity HD 5770 5 mini display ports
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition 6.1
Monitor(s) Displays
2 DELL E207WFP 21.5" - 1 Acer 21.5"
Screen Resolution
2 Dells 1680x1050 - Acer 1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 40GB SSD
WD 500GB internal
WD 500Gb external
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Cooler Master 500w
Case
Cooler Master 430 Black Elite
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HP
Mouse
MIBRU
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10 mbs
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Trend Micro
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