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I have an unused Win 8 upgrade key and want to use it in VMware Player running in Win 7. As it's an upgrade key I can't use it for a clean install (I've tried) so I'm having to install some other windows version first and then use Microsoft's Upgrade Windows with only a product key - Windows Help to download and install Win 8. Rather to my surprise this upgrade (of XP) appeared to work just fine and what had previously been an XP VM booted up into Win 8. Whoopee.....Uhoooh, no internet connection, whether using Bridged or NAT, and despite the fact that the VM can see both of the host's network adapters in its settings.

After some head scratching as far as I can make out this appears to be being caused by the fact that VMs do not have their own network adapters, they use those on the host. So when 8 was installing over XP in the VM and didn't find any adapters to install drivers for it just left it and moved on. That might be wrong of course but it fits the facts.

So my question is whether anyone can dream up some way to get my Win 8 VM to recognise the host's adapters and connect. I'm not hopeful but you never know ;)

EDIT - yeah, I know there is a Win 8 forum but I think I have a better chance of a fix here.
 
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No joy. The problem is that there simply aren't any adapters showing in the Win 8 VM so nothing to configure. They are showing in the VM itself and I can choose which to use, but in Win 8 zilch.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
PC Specialist Custom
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel i5
Motherboard
ASUS® H81M-PLUS
Memory
8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
2GB AMD RADEON™ R7 250
Hard Drives
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX
Hang in there, Kari can help when he sees this. I will send him a message to check it. He is very good with VMs
 

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PC/Desktop
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Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
Memory
8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
Screen Resolution
DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
PSU
Seasonic X650 GOLD
Case
Zalman Z12
Cooling
Antec Kuhler 920
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
MSI DS100 Interceptor
Internet Speed
50 down and 5 up
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Chrome, IE 11
Other Info
Logitech X-620 Speakers
A vm should automatically connect to network if bridged network is selected. The basics are the same on VMWare, VirtualBox, Hyper-V and so on: you do not need to install NIC drivers on guest OS but instead the guest uses a virtual NIC which in its turn is connected to one of the host NICs. Selecting the correct network mode in virtualization program's (in this case VMWare) settings, the correct virtual drivers will be installed in guest.

My suggestion is to go through these troubleshooting steps, reading everything carefully: VMware KB: Troubleshooting network connection failures

Kari
 

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HP ENVY 17-1150eg
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Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
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1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
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17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
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Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
Thank you kari. I have been using VMs for years so what you say is entirely familiar to me. The only differences with this one are that it's first time with Win 8 and the method of installation of guest was different as previously I've always used either a disc or an ISO. I've always used Bridged mode and never previously had a connection problem. However on this occasion, for whatever reason, no virtual adapters have been installed in the guest.

I shall work through the troubleshooting and let you know if anything new emerges.
 

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PC Specialist Custom
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel i5
Motherboard
ASUS® H81M-PLUS
Memory
8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
2GB AMD RADEON™ R7 250
Hard Drives
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX
I will test if I can reproduce your case, downloading and installing VMWare Player now (I do not use it normally).
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
Of course I forgot I cannot test your scenario. All my computers, laptops and desktops alike, have Windows 8 Pro with Hyper-V installed; VMWare and Hyper-V cannot be installed on same system.

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Sorry, I am unable to test this.

Kari
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
I appreciate the thought. I might try the whole experiment again but this time upgrading a Vista VM rather than XP. Just need some time.

EDIT - upgrading Vista to Win 8 using Microsoft's 'upgrade with only a product key' has been successful. However the failed attempt to upgrade XP could possibly have been because the VM being upgraded was located on an external USB drive. The Vista VM was on an internal HDD.

This is a very easy way to upgrade a system to Win 8, real or virtual, and I recommend it.

Upgrade Windows with only a product key - Windows Help
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
PC Specialist Custom
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel i5
Motherboard
ASUS® H81M-PLUS
Memory
8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
2GB AMD RADEON™ R7 250
Hard Drives
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX
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