Computer not straing up

[ICIT2LOL]

My Ivy Bridge crashed last week following what I am assuming was a software failure. It was followed in quick succession by the LC pump failing.

Have installed a new Coolermaster TX4 today but am not getting any RAM beep at start up and or screen. I have tried swapping the sticks to other slots with same issue no beep.

The RAM red light is on and I have tried resetting that to the default RAM speed still no start up or screen.

Am now feeling that perhaps the CPU has been cooked - any ideas please.

Specs are below.

PS may not answer back until a bit later as I have to work the graveyard shift.

 

[paulpicks21]

Have you tried resetting/clearing the CMOS completely?

Paul.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hiyya Paul thanks for the reply no mate buy I will I am just about to leave for work so will leave the battery out. What is bothering me is I am not getting that RAM beep. I have tried some different RAM sticks in same result.

 

[paulpicks21]

Good luck John, lets hope a simply cmos clear will cure it.

Let us know how you get on.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yes so do I mate I have removed the GPU too to see if the graphics work at all from the board.

The machine the last time I looked was running all fans GPU CPU fan at normal speed. The RAM light is on all the time despite resetting it and I have tried reseating the sticks and used the other slots. Like I said what is really worrying is the lack of the RAM beep on power up.

I am hoping that the Intel cooler I sent back on warranty will be replaced and if the CPU is cooked or the board torched then I can probably get those back on warranty because of the cooler problem??

 

[linnemeyerhere]

It sounds like you may need to send the CPU and mobo in for testing. Do you think that heat raced away and maybe cooked the board or CPU as that's what my thoughts are leaning towards. I would have hoped that thermal protection in the mobo and chip would have shut this down in time. Have you looked at the front and back of the mobo looking for any discolorations from heat did you or can you smell any smokey electronic odors?

 

[kbrady1979]

Intel CPU's just don't cook themselves like you think. There are so many safeguards in place to make sure that doesn't happen if your cooling solution fails. I doubt you fried your CPU. Do what Paul said and reset your CMOS settings. Load factory defaults in your BIOS and see what's what. We'll go from there.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ok linne and Kelly I will see when I get up tomorrow as I have the battery out and hopefully it is just the CMOS.

As for the shut down / crash I think the first part was due to some software the second glitch which happened only an hour or so later was the pump on the Intel LC failing it did hit 101C at one stage which I shut down asap. The next power up it shut itself down almost as soon as it had begun so maybe it was a good sign in that respect.

One glimmer of light is that I do have the LEDs on the board still working though I suppose I could be reading something into that via wishful thinking.

But thanks to you all for the help I sincerely appreciate it fellas - will update when I get down to it again.

 

[paulpicks21]

Just a quick note, you do know you only need to take the battery out for around 10 mins to clear the cmos?

Paul

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Many mobo's have a clear cmos button on the IO or board otherwise the battery can come out for just 15-30 seconds to clear it back to defaults !

 

[kbrady1979]

Many mobo's have a clear cmos button on the IO or board otherwise the battery can come out for just 15-30 seconds to clear it back to defaults !

And the Z77 Sabertooth has a clear CMOS jumper lol....still don't understand that one

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yes Paul and linne I was on my way out mates and didn't have the time and yep it has some sort of clear button I think somewhere.

Being on graveyard shift isn't helpful

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Yep looking at it now and it's on the IO panel next to the esata ports if those are the red ones ! Small button with a couple of arrows and BIOS on it !

 

[Layback Bear]

You could always do something risky. Like reading the owners manual for the motherboard.

 

[Sub Styler]

lol, CMOS can usually be cleared by a jumper (when OC testing I usually have a reset switch from an old case connected to it). Modern and high end boards often feature a switch and in the absence of these; battery removal for around 20mins is recommended.

The beep given off at power up does not just indicate the RAM being good, but that the system has completed the POST (power on self test), which includes the RAM, CPU, BIOS, DMA, and BUS(s).

No Single Beep (pass) and no resultant beep code (fail) means the test is not completing.

Agree with previous posts indicating clear CMOS per your manual.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ah well have read the manual for what it is worth reset the CMOS by the battery "method" and RTM jumper and tried three different brands of RAM sticks, and in different slots .
The machine is starting up and I can hear the optical click and spin and the HDD light flicks on and off all fans are running.
The CPU light blinks a few times then stops the RAM light stays on until I reset it that stops the machine and starts it up again but again the RAM stays on.
I can feel the top of the cooler plate but the CPU does not feel even warm and I am guessing it is only the heat from my finger at that.
I still get no output even from the board graphics (there is no graphics error LED on) so I would not know what is going on via error messages - it will not go into BIOS that I know. But the most concerning thing to me is there is no POST beep.
I have followed everyone's advice and followed the manual which really is very basic and has no troubleshooting section and I am now left wondering if the mobo is dead in the water.
So am at a loss as what to try next.

PS I have just heard back from the supplier - they are waiting on a replacement Intel LC unit the other one was in fact not functioning.

 

[Layback Bear]

Just had a thought.
It could be the defective cooler hooked to the motherboard sending a signal to the system letting it know their is no cooling and it just shuts down.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Just had a thought.
It could be the defective cooler hooked to the motherboard sending a signal to the system letting it know their is no cooling and it just shuts down.

Sorry Jack I thought I had posted it but didn't I have a Coolermaster TX4 installed right now and the problem persists. I should have thought about that when I posted about suppler messaging me about awaiting the replacement. (Night duty does strange things to ones metabolism)

 

[paulpicks21]

Ah well have read the manual for what it is worth reset the CMOS by the battery "method" and RTM jumper and tried three different brands of RAM sticks, and in different slots .
The machine is starting up and I can hear the optical click and spin and the HDD light flicks on and off all fans are running.
The CPU light blinks a few times then stops the RAM light stays on until I reset it that stops the machine and starts it up again but again the RAM stays on.
I can feel the top of the cooler plate but the CPU does not feel even warm and I am guessing it is only the heat from my finger at that.
I still get no output even from the board graphics (there is no graphics error LED on) so I would not know what is going on via error messages - it will not go into BIOS that I know. But the most concerning thing to me is there is no POST beep.
I have followed everyone's advice and followed the manual which really is very basic and has no troubleshooting section and I am now left wondering if the mobo is dead in the water.
So am at a loss as what to try next.

PS I have just heard back from the supplier - they are waiting on a replacement Intel LC unit the other one was in fact not functioning.

I really wish I could help you, I had the Ram light staying on, but that was due to 1 stick of my ram going bad and you have already tried different ram and different combinations.
I fear it might be a lot worse, but I am surprised if the motherboard or cpu got fried as of the safeguards like Kelly mentioned.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Thanks Paul that is reassuring. I have messaged the supplier with the problem too in case the failure of the cooler they are replacing has damaged the board or CPU and I will hear back when I get up today I guess as it is now 4am.

Am not real sure what to do next as like you say I have tried the RAM out in different configs, reset the CMOS and without some specialized equipment I don't know what to test out.
It is bugging me about the lack of that loud beep I used to get and no graphics as I did think I would have something flash up if only for a moment or two.