Condition Zero + Windows 7

[Archer1978]

Hi all! Been following this forum for awhile so i decided to register to get help on a problem im having.

I love Windows 7, i dont really do much gaming as my computer isnt that great.

Spec's :-

Intel Pentuim 4 3.02Ghz
2GB DDR2 5300Mhz Memory
Nvidia Geforce 8600GT 256Mb PCI-E
Creative Sounblaster Audigy2zs
SATA2 160Gb Hard Drive

Anyway, the problem im having is i can play Condition Zero on single player (It runs smooth as butter, i get constent 100fps) but everytime i join multiplayer it is terrible. I get a ping of 90 - 150, my fps jumps all over the place but rarley goes above 50fps.

Im asuming this is a Windows 7 issues as when im using XP i get a ping of around 25 and constent 100fps.

Things ive tried :-

Runing in Window Mode
Using diffrent sets of graphics drivers
Not running without sound
Installed DirectX 9.0c Redist

Ive tried pretty much everything, Surely my computer can run Condition Zero on Windows 7 with my specs?
Im thinking it could be a Opengl related problem or firewall within Windows 7 but im at a loss so any help would be appriciated!

Thanks again!

 

[wguimb]

From what you said so far, it sounds like an issue with your network card driver in Windows 7. Check for better drivers from the OEM you purchased from or the web site of the card manufacturer.

 

[Archer1978]

Tried Vista drivers for my Intel LAN pro VE and still have the same issue.

I just think Windows 7 doesnt like Condition Zero. It also happens in Counter Strike.

Could i install VMWare and install XP on it and run Counter strike within there on windows 7?

 

[Ehoa]

I know this is probably the first place you checked , but I take it you have checked your...
firewall access for the game
All online applications are off , i.e mail, messenger
Services which may be doing updates i.e media player
in game connection set up (i.e lan, T1 , 2Mb etc)
in game rate, cl_updaterate, cl_cmdrate in console
also if you have a nforce chipped board , check that you dont have Nvidia Network Manager operating( it acts sort of like a firewall manager too, and caused me major probs once with hl2)
other than that
Not sure if this will help with online, but maybe launch properties , -high ,
-heapsize xxxxmb, -nojoy ... cant remember the rest of them but there is a post here on them

 

[damoh]

Strange one, CZ runs fine for me. Only thing i can suggest as mentioned above is network card

 

[Archer1978]

Thanks for the replys guys.

I installed Vista SP2 yesterday to see if it works on there, and it works flawless. I think it is a firewall issue on Windows 7, i had a look and it is totally diffrent to vista's!

In Windows 7 i ran the game (Condition Zero) and the dialog box popped up and i ticked the box to allow, still same problem.

As Windows 7 Firewall is diffrent, is there any specific settings that i need to enable or disable to allow Condition Zero to run?

 

[Archer1978]

Update :

Ok, after trying for days i found the problem.

Its my sound card drivers. If i uninstall them the game runs fine, constant 20fps with no sound, but if i install sound drivers it lags again.

My Card is aCreative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2zs. I tried the latest drivers, modded drivers to no avail. I have a realtek onboard sound card so i tried that to see if it was my audigy. Guess what same problem. No drivers runs fine, with drivers runs terrible.

What can be causing this?

 

[Ehoa]

was that the windows 7 drivers from creative? The latest ones are just "around" a month old I think?
And I take it onboard sound is turned off in the bios?
Excuse me if I ask basic questions , I dont mean to sound condenscending, Im just trying to think where I would start from ..

 

[Archer1978]

On Board was Disabled when i installed the Audigy2zs. Drivers are fro creative's website.

I then tried removing my Audigy2zs and try onboard. It happens with onboard sound too.

With Sound Card Drivers, Condition Zero Lags, without out sound drivers it works flawless.

Im thinking its a DX Problem, or perhaps WDDM 1.1 Problem perhaps?

 

[Sleepy]

I have the cause, it's the framerate. Try typing fps_max 30 in console and see if it still does it. To me it stoped right as I hit enter. I think it has something to do with the new WARP system having the CPU doing display code and helping out with the GPU, Because if you notice how your CPU is maxed out and after the command its ~60% utilization.

 

[Archer1978]

But will typing fps_max 30 make it worse?

Ill give it a try, see what happens.

 

[damoh]

Update :

Ok, after trying for days i found the problem.

Its my sound card drivers. If i uninstall them the game runs fine, constant 20fps with no sound, but if i install sound drivers it lags again.

My Card is aCreative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2zs. I tried the latest drivers, modded drivers to no avail. I have a realtek onboard sound card so i tried that to see if it was my audigy. Guess what same problem. No drivers runs fine, with drivers runs terrible.

What can be causing this?

20fps on the card you have? Im wondering did you turn the 7 firewall of completly, and the sound cards drivers, defo a strange one. Glad you got it sorted though

 

[Archer1978]

Yeah i turned the firewall of completely.

Its not really sorted. I can play the game but with no sound, which is anoying. Im going to give up soon and uninstall it.

Shame its the only game i really play!

 

[damoh]

Ok mate, list for me EXACTLY your hardware here and ill look into it for you. CZ is my thing lol

 

[Archer1978]

Specs :-

HP Pavillion a1230.uk,

Intel Pentuim 4 3.06Ghz Presscot SOcket 775
2GB (1GB Crucial, 1GB Crucial) DDR2 533Mhz
160GB SATA Samsung HDD
LG GSA-H44N DVD Writer
Creative Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card (No front Panel)
XFX Geforce 8600GT PCI-E 256MB DDR3
700Watt Easy Cool PSU

Anything else you need let me know.

 

[damoh]

85.8.132.239:27055

Go to that server, open console and type
net_graph 1

Note the fps over a 5 min period
then type
net_graph 0


then tell me what the ave fps was on that server.
Also what drivers for your card are u using?
I know that you mentioned that removing sound card drivers helped. However have u got all the motherboard drivers installed?

 

[Archer1978]

Ill try this 2morrow im going to bed now have work in the morning.

 

[Archer1978]

Ok, i went on the server you supllied (Assault) and played about 5mins.

My Ping was about 40 when joined. I could play the game then it would Spike to about 145 then down to 80 odd then to 40 then couple mins later it would spike again. Tried putting Fps_max 50 but that didnt work still same problem.

Im using 185.85 Win 7 drivers. All my drivers are installed apart from chipset drivers, which Windows 7 installed for me, Downlaoeded the ones for vista but they never install always say latest version is installed.

 

[damoh]

Ok, i went on the server you supllied (Assault) and played about 5mins.

My Ping was about 40 when joined. I could play the game then it would Spike to about 145 then down to 80 odd then to 40 then couple mins later it would spike again. Tried putting Fps_max 50 but that didnt work still same problem.

Im using 185.85 Win 7 drivers. All my drivers are installed apart from chipset drivers, which Windows 7 installed for me, Downlaoeded the ones for vista but they never install always say latest version is installed.

Hi,
ive just tried that server too ( hard not to i own it lol) and my ping is a constant 35-40. No lag spikes. Mmm i would defo say network card however you said that when sound drivers are removed then its ok.

Ill keep thinking about it. Good thing about zero and cs source is usually most probs can be sorted out.

 

[damoh]

Ok mate, ive spoken to someone who knows pretty much everything about Counter strike, and knows a shed load about Win 7 and he had the EXACT same problem. It turned out to be his mobo. He is 99% certain its the same in your case, just a little incompatability makes a big diff