Solved Defrag makes something with my harddrive.

[sisrace]

I have used defrag 3 in ashampo winoptimiser 8 (bought version) Before the defrag the computer was slower but the harddrive wasn't hearable. now after the defrag i can hear the harddrive. Is it just me or is it making sence or what? Its on a laptop and the laptop is about a 40Cm from me under my desk.

 

[marsmimar]

My first suggestion is to not use 3rd party tools to maintain Windows 7. The built in Disk Defragmenter is usually all that's needed. "Optimizer" tools usually cause more problems than they solve.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11733-disk-defragmenter-open-use.html

When a disk is defragmented, related files are rearranged so they are closer together rather than scattered all over the hard drive. Think of an encyclopedia with many volumes. If you put some of the volumes in the kitchen, some in the bedroom, and some in the living room, it's going to take a longer time to find the volume you need. But if you put all the volumes in one bookcase it's a lot easier to find what you're looking for,

Perhaps the Ashampoo defrag tool didn't really do a good job rearranging the files on your hard drive. Maybe the actuator arm is moving back and forth trying to find files that are still scattered on the hard drive.



Try running the Windows 7 defrag tool and see if it makes a difference. You could even run it a couple of times to make sure the files have been rearranged the best way possible. If the hard drive is still making noise I'd back up all my data and think about running some diagnostic tools to see if the drive is failing. This troubleshooting guide has links to Check Disk as well as other HD diagnostics.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/220165-troubleshooting-steps-windows-7-a.html

 

[sisrace]

The thing i like about the win optimiser is mostly becouse its cleanig everything when you open the program. The program have cleared like 5gb onnessecary files and the defrag msde my hdd faster and booting time got improved by the startup tuner. But i could try it. The sound is not anything that bothers me. But i dont know how other 3rd party programs is but this is really good at is jobs. It have saved a lot of computers here from slowing down to death. So i just wondered if defrag like mad the arm change direction quiker by plasing all the files "closer" so it dont need to move too far. And just becouse of that tou hear a more rapid sound from the arm? It could be like that. Btw i where doing my defrag och the mostly intelligent way in the program and it took me like 24h. And i got a huge boost by it so eeh. Like i said. I just whanted to know if there was a logical answer in it.

 

[chaosrealm93]

the hard drive could still be searching around for data, or maybe the hardware is worn out. my relic of a computer's hard drive sounded like a blender when it was in use

 

[sisrace]

The hdd is 2 month old..

 

[gregrocker]

No one here has ever recommended AShampoo for anything except uninstall.

I would give your HD and registry a good cleaning with the approved safe tool CCleaner 3.19.1721 - FileHippo.com.

Then do a Boot Time defrag with full Disk Check using Puran Defrag free Download. This gets the System files which can't be defragged when Win7 is running and results in performance improvement.

For even more improvement, first enable Intelligent Optimizer on Additional Operations tab. This moves the most used files to the outer edge of the HD for faster access.

In addition we'll look over your configuration if you'll post back a screenshot of Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image - Windows 7 Forums .

Make sure as well you have a perfect Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 and your HD is tested using both maker's HD Diagnostic CD scan and Disk Check

 

[Britton30]

You clean 5GB of "junk"?!? That is an abnormal amount of junk and some was likely NOT junk.
Ashampoo is junk (have experience) in my opinion and has been since Win 9x.
If you want to optimize w7 no 3rd party software is needed other than what Greg listed and these tips.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11728-optimize-windows-7-a.html#post112189

Your drive may have coincidently become defective too, run a test.

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[sisrace]

Ok yes i know. ashampo winoptimizer isnt the best program but for me it works. it made my computer faster and the boot time better. The thing i think winoptimizer is good and why i like it is becouse 1: it keeps the computer clean ( you start the program and it clears all the chace from the webbrowser. then it removes unneeded programs. and then you can easily remove stuff from the startup tuner. The defrag is not a thing i care about now becouse my computer is kinda new. The 5Gb of stuff was a weird program i downloaded by misstake but never found. i got the full version of ashampo winoptimizer 8 so why not use it.



I think i've tried ccleaner but i didnt really see the need in it becuse i dont use my computer like i did with my old computer for like 3 years ago.
My dad is folloving a thing called pc for alla and every month or week he gets a cd with a lot of useful program. like norton internet security, Win optimizer 8, ccleaner. etc. So all the computers in the house is very cleaned up.

If you dont know i made this becouse i where wondering why i heard or not heard the hdd working. now i dont but sometimes i hear it. My imaginations? So i just wondered if there was any "sence" in that defrag makes your hdd loud or something...

 

[sisrace]

Let's se then. if i tryes another defrag program. it shouldnt take long if the win optimizer defrag did what it should right? so im gonna try it!...

 

[sisrace]

No one here has ever recommended AShampoo for anything except uninstall.

I would give your HD and registry a good cleaning with the approved safe tool CCleaner 3.19.1721 - FileHippo.com.

Then do a Boot Time defrag with full Disk Check using Puran Defrag free Download. This gets the System files which can't be defragged when Win7 is running and results in performance improvement.

For even more improvement, first enable Intelligent Optimizer on Additional Operations tab. This moves the most used files to the outer edge of the HD for faster access.

In addition we'll look over your configuration if you'll post back a screenshot of Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image - Windows 7 Forums .

Make sure as well you have a perfect Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 and your HD is tested using both maker's HD Diagnostic CD scan and Disk Check

Ah thats a thing i've been looking for. a program thats places programs over the disc by priority. thanks!

 

[sisrace]

OK CCleaner gets a + from me. it deleted 400mb of unused files.
And the puran defrag made a good job too.
Win optimizer defrag made a good job when it comes too defrag. but there where still some fragmented stuff.
But i'm going to use CCleaner and puran defrag instead...

 

[gregrocker]

Test your HD too, just to be sure. I gave you the steps earlier.

 

[Britton30]

there are some system files which do not defrag, don't worry about them.

 

[sisrace]

Yeah. I saw that, becouse if both winoptimizer and puran defrag. You know you cant defrag tham. Oh. One thing to mention. My system starts 5 sec slower after using ccleaner and puran defrag.. Thats weird.

 

[Britton30]

Stay away from this winoptimizer.

 

[Layback Bear]

Sisrace you have gotten some great suggestions that have worked for thousands. So I will say it a little different.
From you post#8
i got the full version of ashampo winoptimizer 8 so why not use it.

Simple answer; it's junk. Windows doesn't want or need a 3 rd party optimizer.

If your food is spoiled you don't eat it just because you paid for it. You throw it away. I whole heartily recommend removing winoptimizer for ever. Concider it a lesson learned.
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BACK UP/BACK UP
If your hard drive is making excessive mechanical noise back up everything you want to keep just in case of failure. Sometimes a hard drive will go belly up during a test.
Then do your hard drive test. If it was my hard drive making a lot of mechanical noises I would just plan on replacing it. No computer programs can fix a mechanical failure.

I use Windows 7 built in defrager. It puts things where Windows 7 wants them not where some 3rd party program wants them. I have tested many defrag programs and they all do it a little different and their is always a little something that doesn't get moved. My thoughts are they shouldn't or don't need moved.

Please keep in mind that Windows 7 is not like the older Windows operating systems. Windows 7 has many built in programs that work great and therefor don't need a lot of 3 rd party programs. I do use Ccleaner and have for years. When used correctly it does a fine job.
Another clean up tool built into Windows 7 that works very well is.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/76383-disk-cleanup-extended.html

 

[Britton30]

From you post#8
i got the full version of ashampo winoptimizer 8 so why not use it.

Simple answer; it's junk. Windows doesn't want or need a 3 rd party optimizer.

If your food is spoiled you don't eat it just because you paid for it. You throw it away. I whole heartily recommend removing winoptimizer for ever. Concider it a lesson learned.

It's read easier this way Jack.

 

[indianacarnie]

Yeah, I've tried to tell him that myself but to no avail. I like your way better But I betcha he'll come back and swear by it later

 

[marsmimar]

I was the first one to respond to the OP and suggested that most "optimizer" tools cause more problems than they solve. Thanks to all the Forum members who basically said the same thing.

 

[indianacarnie]

I was the first one to respond to the OP and suggested that most "optimizer" tools cause more problems than they solve. Thanks to all the Forum members who basically said the same thing.

Yes indeed, kind of amazing that some people who come here for knowledgeable help just WILL NOT listen to good advice because "- insert various preconceived notion of the day-".