Do I or don't I

[ICIT2LOL]

Have been in a few threads just lately re my new ROG Asus G750JM laptop and to cut an extremely long story down I have downloaded the drivers from NVidia and the Asus support site for the GTX 860M that is in the machine and because the machine was originally 8 and I had it "downgraded" to 7 I cannot install the drivers for the GTX 860M.

The problem is I get a message form Asus support site saying I have to update the BIOS first before I can install any 7 drivers - see pic and now I am procrastinating whether I should do that or just leave it to the Intel HD graphics which are not bad but I am so curious as to how the NVidia would perform instead.

So do I or not? if some of the up to speed graphics folks could advise me whether the NVidia would be better than the Intel I would appreciate it.

Specs for the machine = Notebooks & Ultrabooks - ASUS ROG G750JM - ASUS

Anyway off to bed as it is really late and will catch up tomorrow.

 

[maxie]

Interesting read in the Link below John ...

How to install Windows 7 on the new G750JS, G750J and G750JZ

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Interesting read in the Link below John ...

How to install Windows 7 on the new G750JS, G750J and G750JZ

Thanks Brian I have just posted there as I already have asked a question on this but no answers but I appreciate your input on my predicament.

 

[maxie]

No problem John ... Keep us Posted with your progress be interested to see how it works out

 

[ICIT2LOL]

I will mate they are really slow at replying I find though unless they do not mail like here does I guess I should just login again and look.

 

[TVeblen]

John - just saw this thread.
I assume you prepped the laptop as recommended: disabled Secure Boot, and enabled CSM.

Did you update the BIOS? The fix to this problem could be in the update.

And when W7 was freshly installed, did you install the W7 chipset drivers first?

 

[ICIT2LOL]

John - just saw this thread.
I assume you prepped the laptop as recommended: disabled Secure Boot, and enabled CSM.

Did you update the BIOS? The fix to this problem could be in the update.

And when W7 was freshly installed, did you install the W7 chipset drivers first?

No mate it is VERY long story with this machine I will not bore you with except that I bought it at a very good price with 8 on it because it is a superseded but very good spec'd laptop and decided to let the seller install the offered - optional 7 Pro on it to a SSD I had installed into the machine.

The machine originally had a very slow spinner installed which as I said I replaced with the SSD. Now I happened to have a spare 7 Home OEM at home and decided to install that onto the spinner. All went well and it wasn't until I went to install the 7 drivers that I found from the Asus support site that the BIOS had to be updated before the 7 drivers could be installed


So I wiped the SSD and sent the machine back with the SSD to the seller to load the optional 7 Pro he offered because I thought rather foolishly that if the BIOS had to be updated then rather the seller than me, that is because if the BIOS update bricked the machine then he would be up for the replacement . But it turned out he did nothing with the BIOS. So it is left up to me to do this update or leave the machine as is.
I am just really jittery about doing BIOS updates and so the reason I asked to do or not to do.

 

[maxie]

John the Chipset Driver might work with out doing the BIOS Update ...


Seems to have worked for others ... Maybe when you get an answer from the Asus Website ..


You should be in a better position as to what action to take ...

 

[ICIT2LOL]

John the Chipset Driver might work with out doing the BIOS Update ...


Seems to have worked for others ... Maybe when you get an answer from the Asus Website ..


You should be in a better position as to what action to take ...

OK Brian I did find the LAN driver was made for 7&8 but all else has those messages as in pic

I have to phone tomorrow because trying to email is just impossible why Asus didn't just make this machine with updates for 7 & 8 is beyond me.

 

[TVeblen]

You should not fear updating the BIOS.
Most of the horror stories you hear are the result of someone doing something risky or stupid, the rest are due to unusual circumstances (loss of power, for example).

But if you follow some simple rules then the process is no more risky than replacing a video card.

A few of my rules:

• NEVER update a BIOS using a Windows based utility. Always use the utility in the BIOS itself, or a bootable BIOS updater (in the case of Dell and similar). The reason is that the BIOS update cannot be interrupted - by anything. If the user is smart and disables antivirus and firewalls, shuts down all running programs, and does not do anything else while the BIOS is updating then the process can be successful. But most peoples PCs are a mess. They have dozens of programs that run at startup and they don't even know it. It's a bad idea in the best of cases.
• If the BIOS has a flash utility on the Tools Tab then use that. It is safest to flash a BIOS from within the BIOS. The reason is because it will be the only thing the system is doing.
• Follow the BIOS install instructions (if you can find them). Most of the time the USB stick must be formatted FAT32, and the BIOS file must be in the root of the drive (not in a folder).
• Make precautions that you will have uninterrupted power during the flash. Never perform this on battery power - always plugged in. Not in a thunderstorm or in a blizzard or flood. Never flash a BIOS during the Apocalypse!
• And one I used to have in my pre-written instructions: push your chair away from the desk, out of reach of the keyboard in mouse until the flash is finished.

Done thoughfully and carefully flashing a BIOS can be quite safe.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ok TV I have the update process from a YouTube and the Asus support manual and it is the EZ flash method the update being put on a flash drive and the machine then booted and the EZ mode picked where you see the stick with update sitting there. The BIOS is EUFI I have done this with my Ivy Bridge before but a while ago but it still stands the hairs on the back of my neck!

Well seeing the apocalypse is here now (have upset the partner) I have one thing more to worry about.

 

[TVeblen]

My EZ-Flash instructions:

ASUS EZ Flash 2 (for UEFI BIOS)

• Copy .CAP file to USB stick
• Insert USB stick into USB 2.0 port
• Enter BIOS > Reset Defaults
• Start PC > Press DEL to enter BIOS (Notice that the USB drive is listed as a boot device)
• Go to Advanced Mode > Tool menu > Asus EZ Flash Utility > ENTER
• Select the USB Drive > Highlight the .CAP file > ENTER
• “Do you want to read this file?” > OK
• “Do you really want to update BIOS?” > OK
• “Processing (Progress Bar) > “Update Successfully” “System will be reset” > OK
• Reboots (you can remove USB stick) > “Bios is updating – Do Not Shut Down…” > leave everything alone
• System shuts down > restarts > shuts down > restarts - After the system has reboot twice the .CAP conversion process is done.
• Enter BIOS (Del) > check version # > Reset preferred BIOS settings > EXIT menu > Save Changes & Reset

This is how it went on my last flash!

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yep that's the one TV I looked it up last night just to be sure. I shall have to do it as soon as I get the nerve up because I tried contacting the Asus support people to se if it is reversible (probably not) as a YouTube I watched said that it could be done with "specialized" equipment but I would think that would entail sending it back to Asus:huh:

 

[TVeblen]

There is always that moment of breathlessness (sort of), but EZ Flash 2 is a great utility and very reliable.

 

[TVeblen]

Here's instructions from a newer laptop I just did:

ASUS EASY FLASH
Bios Update Utility (on UEFI – Aptio Bios)
AsusTek Easy Flash Utility
Flash Type: Winbond 25X/Q Series

• Download Bios update file (zipped folder) > Extract all > copy to USB stick

(File Format: Motherboard model#.Version) (USB should be FAT32)

• Insert USB stick > Start PC > Press F2 to enter Setup
• Go to the TOOLS Tab > click Asus Easy Flash

(The Bios Update file will already be listed)

• Use Right Arrow to select the BIOS file > Press ENTER
• “Do You Want To Update The Bios?” > Select Y > ENTER

“Start Easy Flash”
“Erasing…”
“Programming…”
“Verifying…”
“ Shutdown in 2 Seconds…”

• PC Shuts down (not a restart).
• Start the PC > Press F2 to enter Setup > Check/recheck all settings

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yep that looks just like the manual info gives so just might give it a go when I get back got to dash out for a while.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Now I have gone to bite the bullet and have downloaded the BIOS update and the win flash utility and I ma getting nowhere. The BIOS on open gives me a message to sue a program to open it and the winflash says it has to be used on a laptop and this is an Asus laptop.
Any ideas please see pics for what I am getting

 

[maxie]

Hi John ... Not sure why you are having that problem ... I was able to Download and extract the Files ...

 

[ICIT2LOL]

No nor me Brian I did it before but the stick I put it on is at my place and I won't get there until Sunday morning our time.

I am actually having few issues with this machine at the moment with things like the security playing up and just little things that keep going wrong. The security at least is probably going to have to be reinstalled again and the OS if things keep this up.

To be honest I bought this machine last October and was hoping the high end components would make things a whole lot better but as you know it has been a very long hard slog to get this far. The only good thing I can say at the moment is the screen is just perfect at res 1920x1080 and the backlit keyboard too but getting 7 drivers which is why I want to update the BIOS is proving to be a real pain.

What I don't understand is why Asus in their infinite wisdom did not make this machine with an update list where the drivers for 7&8 were available the wifi was the only one the rest a I said I have to update the BIOS to get them.

 

[TVeblen]

Why did you decide to use WinFlash Utility?