Dual harddrives affecting computer boot speed/stability?

AndarielHalo

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I have two harddrives, the primary one 584 GB, the secondary one 1.36 TB. When booting, my computer takes about a minute or two to fully load, but if I start to actually use it, virtually all programs will move slowly, consume lots of memory, explorer windows will take forever to load, and even cause my video card to stutter a bit.


A while ago, I unplugged the secondary drive, and found that my computer booted up much faster, and was infinitely more stable soon after loading.


But with two harddrives, in order to maintain stability, I often wait up to 5 - 10 minutes after booting to the desktop, just to be safe.



Is this a normal symptom of having two huge harddrives, both of which are filled with about 500 GB each, and programs like Norton security suite and messenger programs all needing to boot up? Or is this a problem with the second harddrive?
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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custom build
OS
7
CPU
Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB total RAM 4x4GB sticks
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 780
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ViewSonic LED 1080p Full HD
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1920x1080
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Two
PSU
Corsair HX 750W
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Cooler Master
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A bunch of fans
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Old and busty Dell, with some letters scratched off
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Logitech trackball
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Xfinity
Does the secondary drive contain anything other than data?

For all we know, you have an antique processor and/or very little RAM, in which case anything is possible.

I would say it's not normal if you have a modern processor and at least 2 GB of RAM.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
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Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
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Antec Solo II
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Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
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Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
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Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Nothing but data. The C Drive has a factory format image in itself that is only 12 GB large.


I have an AMD Athlon II X4 620 processor, 2.60 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 64-bit operating system, a Pegatron motherboard violet 3.02, a Corsair power supply unit 620W, my Windows Experience Index is 5.9 - Processor, Memory are 7.1, Graphics, and Gaming Graphics are 7.7, and Disk data transfer rate is 5.9
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
7
CPU
Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB total RAM 4x4GB sticks
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 780
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic LED 1080p Full HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Two
PSU
Corsair HX 750W
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
A bunch of fans
Keyboard
Old and busty Dell, with some letters scratched off
Mouse
Logitech trackball
Internet Speed
Xfinity
In addition to what ignatzatsonic mentioned, it should take no more than a split second for the second HD to be recognized by the BIOS on boot.

Sounds like you need to use Task Manager, Resource Monitor and/or Process Explorer to see what's going on when you have the second drive connected. Did you add the second drive yourself?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Yes, I added it myself.


To further clarify I should say, the computer isn't taking this long to boot; technically I can use it and open programs and the like still, it's just that if I don't let it "warm up" for a few minutes after it's fully booted, programs can run slow, explorer windows take many times longer to load, etcetera.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
7
CPU
Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB total RAM 4x4GB sticks
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 780
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic LED 1080p Full HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Two
PSU
Corsair HX 750W
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
A bunch of fans
Keyboard
Old and busty Dell, with some letters scratched off
Mouse
Logitech trackball
Internet Speed
Xfinity
Try using the apps I mentioned to find the source (while the second drive is connected).

Also, have you done any virus/malware checks with anything other than your main AV app?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
The only thing more drives would cause is slightly longer POST in the bios as it id's the drives.
I've got 6 spinning drives and 2 SSD's in my system.

A failing hard drive can cause the system to boot and run slow though. Is the hard drive light constantly on for the few minutes it is booting?
 

My Computer

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HAL-9000
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel i7 3770K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory
16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity
Sound Card
Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD
Monitor(s) Displays
23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic
Screen Resolution
5760x1080
Hard Drives
16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB,
PSU
Antec True Power New 650watt
Case
Cooler Master HAF-932
Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan
Keyboard
Logitech G15 and G13
Mouse
Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbit
Other Info
Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC
I don't have a harddrive light. I highly doubt this is a case of failing harddrive unless the drive I got was DOA because this has been an issue since I first got the two of them together.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
7
CPU
Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB total RAM 4x4GB sticks
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 780
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic LED 1080p Full HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Two
PSU
Corsair HX 750W
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
A bunch of fans
Keyboard
Old and busty Dell, with some letters scratched off
Mouse
Logitech trackball
Internet Speed
Xfinity
Don't discount failure or failing. The most likely times a HD will fail is within either the first few months or many years later (not counting physical bumps). After you've had a new disk running for a few months you can then probably consider it as reliable for many more years.

Can't hurt to at least check what SMART has to say about the HD.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Is your anti-virus set to scan at boot? If so, a 2 HDD scan would take longer than a 1 HDD scan and slow the system till done.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self build
OS
Windows 7 pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel i7-2600k o/c to 4.6GHz
Motherboard
MSI Z68-GD80
Memory
8GB Mushkin 1866MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 750 Ti 2GB
Sound Card
integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Liyama ProLite 27"
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 px
Hard Drives
Seagate 2TB
PSU
Coolermaster GX 750W
Case
Antec 300 case + 5 fans
Cooling
Dark Rock Pro
Internet Speed
62Mbit down 18Mbit up
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Blackgold BGT3650 Quad HD TV card. Also have various 3770 + 4770K render boxes.
I've been panicky and paranoid about the harddrive failing for many years now. I was highly suspicious of clicking noises being made by the computer when I transferred everything to a new case. (Fun fact; the clicking noises persist long after I shut off the computer, so it's just random shit creaking and clacking or the fans being chipped) But given that it has been at least two years now since that (and close to three since first getting both harddrives), I think that I am more likely to replace them before they start catastrophically failing.


This isn't something that has gotten worse over time, and there's no real risk of the system crashing, except until the point I got a new videocard which is subject to "Display driver has stopped responding and has recovered" messages whenever IE runs high on memory, which is more likely to occur if I play around on the computer before letting it "warm up" (though even then it takes a lot to actually induce this, and extremely rare to cause the display driver to do this twice in a row, leading to a system crash)


As for Anti-Virus, I can't say for certain. I have a Norton Internet Security suite that came with my cable subscription, and it includes some other Norton system works that only appears whenever it wants me to clear out old shortcuts and useless registry things. The product automatically does background scanning and such when I go idle for several minutes, but I wouldn't put it past the program to do some things automatically at startup.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
7
CPU
Intel Core i7 3770 3.40 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB total RAM 4x4GB sticks
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 780
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic LED 1080p Full HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Two
PSU
Corsair HX 750W
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
A bunch of fans
Keyboard
Old and busty Dell, with some letters scratched off
Mouse
Logitech trackball
Internet Speed
Xfinity
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