Solved Fresh Win7 x64 Install - BSOD / ntoskrnl / 0xf4 / CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERM

flyerguymn

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Hi all,

I did a fresh install of Win7 x64 onto a brand new Intel 730 SSD drive. After installing chipset/USB3/audio/video drivers and connecting all hardware, I started to restore user files to the system via CrashPlan backups from an external hard drive. During that, I got a couple of BSODs. After that, I started getting BSODs consistently, and since then, I get them within 0-15 minutes of boot.

Because it started happening while I was doing my first big transfer from the external HDD, I started to suspect USB3, but my troubleshooting doesn't seem to point that way any more.

Troubleshooting steps I've taken:

1. Detached all USB devices other than keyboard/mouse/wifi (no wired network available near computer)
2. Removed all internal hard drives other than the boot SSD mentioned above.
3. Ran 3 passes of memtest86 (no errors).
4. Ran full diagnostics on the Intel SSD (passed).
5. Rechecked SATA cabling to the SSD.

Still getting BSODs at the same frequency. I then recalled that the video driver was among the last drivers I had installed. I used the ATI/AMD driver autodetect utility to install my driver, and it had recommended Catalyst 13.9 for my HD 4770.

6. I uninstalled Catalyst 13.9

At first I thought I had finally solved the problem because the system is definitely a bit more stable using the standard VGA driver (I worked on it for an hour or so), but then I got a BSOD, so it appears I still have at least some of the issue.

I ran BluescreenView and almost all of my crash dumps point to ntoskrnl and 0xf4 and CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION. I've definitely had more BSODs than I have dump files. From Googling, I see that 0xf4 can often be memory or hard drive, so that's why I ran memtest86 and the Intel SSD diags, but no clues there. But I've also seen that this is a very generic set of errors that can indicate pretty much anything wrong from drivers to hardware failure.

My full setup is a Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H with Core i5 4570 and 16GB mem, the Intel 730 SSD and a Sapphire HD4770 graphics card.

I've attached the dump files. Not sure where to go from here, I am hoping someone with better BSOD debugging skills can point me in the right direction. Thanks!!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64Core i5 457016GBSapphire Radeon HD 4770
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Core i5 4570
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 4770
Sound Card
onboard
Hard Drives
Intel 730 240GB SSD
PSU
Corsair HX 520W
Also, last night after posting I thought to remove the Intel HD 4600 graphics driver, and then try the Catalyst 13.9 driver (just the driver not the whole Catalyst package). That provided some stability as I was able to work for quite a while.

Then I started to connect my external hard drives again, one at a time, and see if things remained stable. On the first one it seemed fine, but on the second I got the BSOD on bootup. On a whim, I tried moving that one to a different USB3 port. So far, it's been stable up and running overnight and this morning. It wasn't doing much at the time, so that could be coincidental, but it did do some CrashPlan backup tasks and this morning I browsed for a bit and installed a software package, and so far it's still up.

Just more information and clues for anyone who is willing to look at the dump files. Thank you!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64Core i5 457016GBSapphire Radeon HD 4770
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Core i5 4570
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 4770
Sound Card
onboard
Hard Drives
Intel 730 240GB SSD
PSU
Corsair HX 520W
flyerguymn, welcome to Seven Forums. I will try to help you with this.Could you tell me what temps ea are talking about fro the CPU and GPU, also what anti virus are you using? I would like to know if your drivers were from the drivers disk or downloaded frommmm the internet, did you install the Dameon tools and the Gigabyte utilities and are you overclocking anything?
Firest, if you have them installed, please unimstall all Gigabyte utilities, they are known causes of BSODs.

Please open an elevated command prompt ( click start, type cmd in the search box, right click on the cmd entry and select run as administrator) in the black box that opens, copy/paste sfc /scannow. If you decide to type it, notice the space between the sfc and the /. It is a system file checker which will scan your system files and attempt to correct any missing or corrupt files. What we want are the results to say windows found no integrity violations. If it says files were found but could not be repaired, close the box, reboot and run it again, after opening the administrative command prompt. You may have to reboot and run it three times for it to repair all system files. If it can't repair them after 3 reboots, let us know.
 

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No Gigabyte utils installed (by that I assume you mean App Center and its optional modules. App Center not installed).

No Daemon Tools.

Not overclocking.

Drivers were downloaded, used the latest stable for everything except ATI/AMD Catalyst, because their driver autodetect tool specifically chose 13.9.

sfc /scannow did something interesting. It reported:
"Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some of them"
So I followed the directions here to analyze the CBS.log file and produce a sfcdetails.txt file:
Use the System File Checker tool to repair missing or corrupted system files log
That does NOT find any corrupt files noted in the log. sfcdetails.txt attached here.
Repeated this process multiple times with same result.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64Core i5 457016GBSapphire Radeon HD 4770
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Core i5 4570
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 4770
Sound Card
onboard
Hard Drives
Intel 730 240GB SSD
PSU
Corsair HX 520W
flyerguymn, I asked for help to read the log. I can't do that very well. It shouldn't be too long
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProRyzen 9 5900X32GB G Skill DDR4-3600EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel Ultra 9 288V32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
There's no problems showing in the sfcdetails data - but the full logs may be more informative...


Please follow the Windows Update Posting Instructions and post the requested data

If the file is too large (8MB compressed), remove the older CBSPersist cab files until the final file is below the limit - you can always post them separately after zipping them. (the forum doesn't allow the upload of bare CAB files, for a number of reasons)
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM...i3 370M/i7 6500U8GB - finally :)/8GBit's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
This system has been stable for three days now, so I think I've solved the problem. The issue had to be caused by one or more of the following:

1. Presence of both Intel HD 4600 and ATI/AMD Catalyst drivers on the system (I removed the Intel HD drivers 3 days ago).
2. A bad USB3 port (I relocated one of the external hard drives to a different port that same day).
3. A loose or bad cable. I reseated all cables inside the box that day.

My money is on #1, but #2 or #3 wouldn't surprise me, either.

Thanks for your help, all seems well now. Not sure what to make of sfc /scannow telling me there are corrupt files when it isn't logging any, but that seems to be a red herring so I'm choosing to ignore it. :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64Core i5 457016GBSapphire Radeon HD 4770
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Core i5 4570
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 4770
Sound Card
onboard
Hard Drives
Intel 730 240GB SSD
PSU
Corsair HX 520W
Please run another SFC and post the new logs - even if things are 'normal' now, they may turn nasty later.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM...i3 370M/i7 6500U8GB - finally :)/8GBit's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
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