From 7 to 10, and back to 7, not by choice

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My desktop Lenovo H415 with an AMD A6 was originally unsuccessfully upgrade to W10 on the first day it was available but the system was unusable and I reverted back to 7 and I waited for Treashold2 but the problems still existed. Now I want to do a fresh install of 7 since my original installation is over three years old. I don't have a 7 installation disk and since my s/n is now embedded into my eufi (I'm told), am I going to have a problem activating a new installation of 7? I'll have to wait until I upgrade my hardware (maybe next year) before I use W10 on my desktop.
Len
 

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If your PC came from the Manufacturer with Windows 7 it should have a COA sticker on it with your license key for that PC.
If you special ordered the PC with a downgrade to Win 7, and Win 8.x was the default OS it won't have a COA sticker.
It's my understanding the license (s/n) was not embedded into the BIOS until Win 8.
Win 7 and earlier OS's use the COA sticker.
If you have a readable Win 7 COA you can clean install Win 7 and activate it.

Were you running Win 10 as an Upgrade install, or did you do a clean install of Win 10 ?
Many people report issues with the upgrade install, but problems are often solved by doing a clean install.

Here are examples of a COA sticker.

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home built
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Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
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on board Realtek ALC889A
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RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
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Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
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Rosewill mid tower
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CM 90mm rifle
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Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
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Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
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Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
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Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
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Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
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2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
Well I first did an upgrade install of W10, but the second time I used a new hard drive and a clean install of 10 but the problem persisted. Another problem is that I can no longer get into setup. I restart and hold F1 or F12 and the computer ignores my input and just opens in windows. I guess that is my most pressing problem since without the ability to boot from a DVD or a USB, how can I do anything. I appreciate your help, thanks.
Len
 

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Hi,
Setup is usually F2 or the Delete key on first startup but your bios flash screen should list what they really are.
F1 would be a new one for me to see :/
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
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1920 x 1080 144Hz
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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
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2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
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Windows 10 Pro X64Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHzIntel Integrated HD Graphics
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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
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Intel Integrated HD Graphics
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Realtek HD Audio
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HP 22" LCD
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1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
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Dell USB
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Lenovo USB
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Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
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Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
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Seamonkey
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PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Tried to get into setup by using DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11 and F12, nothing worked. Is there an emergency way to enter the setup utility? I need to do a fresh install of Windows 7 but I have no way of doing that without changing the boot order.
Len
 

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Well I first did an upgrade install of W10, but the second time I used a new hard drive and a clean install of 10 but the problem persisted. Another problem is that I can no longer get into setup. I restart and hold F1 or F12 and the computer ignores my input and just opens in windows. I guess that is my most pressing problem since without the ability to boot from a DVD or a USB, how can I do anything. I appreciate your help, thanks.
Len

Some things you could try:

- Try repeatedly tapping the F key while the PC is booting, don't hold it down.

- Try a different USB port for the keyboard.

- Disconnect the HD that has Windows. Then Windows won't be able to start and it might force it to let you into BIOS setup.

- Do a BIOS reset by removing the CMOS battery for at least 10 seconds, then replace it.
A possible issue with this approach is if the PC was originally designed to be sold with Win 8.x installed and Lenovo downgraded it to Win 7, they might have changed some BIOS settings from the factory default. Things such as Secure Boot, Fast Start, etc. and you might need to play around with settings to figure out what is needed for Win 7. You would definitely need to set the date/time correctly.
 

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Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x6...AMD Athlon II x4 6206GB GSkill DDR2 800AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I purchased this computer in late 2011 or early 2012, I think that was before Windows 8 was available. Is there a way to find a file that lets me know when I first used this computer. Thanks for your suggestions, I will try them.
Len
 

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Open a Command Prompt (CMD) and enter this command:

systeminfo | find "Original Install Date"
 

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Computer type
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home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I entered: find "Original Install Date" and nothing happened. I don't know what the symbol is between systeminfo and find?
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Thanks got it
 

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My Computer My Computer

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Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x6...AMD Athlon II x4 6206GB GSkill DDR2 800AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
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