Solved Game lagging and slow performance of pc.Suggestion about a gaming rig?

[SlasherIT]

You'll need a new graphics card for those games... Such as this GTX 460 Newegg.com - PNY XLR8 VCGGTX4601XPB-OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) OC 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card, its 130 bucks after the mail in rebate.

Let me pick a cheaper motherboard for you. Do you want USB 3.0? What HDD do you have?

 

[Mual]

You'll need a new graphics card for those games... Such as this GTX 460 Newegg.com - PNY XLR8 VCGGTX4601XPB-OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) OC 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card, its 130 bucks after the mail in rebate.

What if I doesn't get a new graphic card? Am I still able to play?
Let me pick a cheaper motherboard for you. Do you want USB 3.0? What HDD do you have?

Well, I can afford the motherboard. If you want to suggest or pic a better and cheaper motherboard for me, go ahead. Yes, I want USB 3.0

I have the Western Digital HDD, one is 1TB and one is 1 TB.
Western Digital Hard Drives, Network Drives, Media Players

My main HDD which I installed Windows 7 is a seagate 160GB HDD.

Products & Services | Seagate

 

[SlasherIT]

Don't spend so much cash on the motherboard. Can you tell me the exact Hard drive you have? Because you can get a motherboard that features SATA 6.0 Gbps, if your hard drive supports it. You'll probably want new RAM.

 

[Mual]

Don't spend so much cash on the motherboard. Can you tell me the exact Hard drive you have? Because you can get a motherboard that features SATA 6.0 Gbps, if your hard drive supports it. You'll probably want new RAM.

Can you explain why don't spend too much on it? And the motherboard I told you doesn't support SATA 6.0Gbps?(What is this for actually?)
You mean giving the model of the drive?
WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device
WDC WD15EARS-00Z5B1 ATA Device
Is it what you want?

yeah I need RAM for the new motherboard.
You did give me one link to look at the RAM last time.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396

 

[Keiichi25]

By technicality, the MB should not be the major investment EXCEPT if you REALLY need certain technologies it provides. In this case, as a gamer, your focus should be what CPUs the board will support, number of RAM slots and the configuration of it, number of PCIe slots and what PCIe they will support, such as PCIe 2.0 at x16 or x8 and match that up with the card you are using.

When you do get the board, also consider getting RAM. Some of the newer boards will want to use DDR3 triple channel. If your older system used DDR2, you may have to replace the RAM. Also check the speed if you are using DDR3, as again, the MB for certain processors will need to be at a certain speed or else you suffer memory flaws which will produce an unstable system. These are key things you need to examine when you go forward.

Thanks for all the info here mate. And I don't know how to look at the difference between PCIe slots and what PCIe support, such as PCIe 2.0 at x16 or x8 like what you mention.

Well, go with what Slash might recommend. Technically, you can go to motherboard information and look at the specs, most vendors and sellers will put technical specifications of the motherboard and just keyword search for PCI Express. While some manufacturers will state they have better response times, at this point your focus is budget than certain levels of performance. And to be honest, some of them are very nanscent to the most common user.

 

[Mual]

Oh, alright.
So I will just go with SlashIt idea. Maybe he could find a better motherboard for me I think....

I want to go to sleep now, is 11:35 in the night here. I will reply soon....

 

[SlasherIT]

I can't find that model anywhere on the net. Spend more cash on something else, other than the motherboard. I'm picking a more suitable motherboard for you... I guess you want SATA 6.0 Gbps even though your HDD's probably don't support it... Is this motherboard good for you? Newegg.com - ASRock H61M/U3S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

 

[Mual]

I can't find that model anywhere on the net. Spend more cash on something else, other than the motherboard. I'm picking a more suitable motherboard for you... I guess you want SATA 6.0 Gbps even though your HDD's probably don't support it... Is this motherboard good for you? Newegg.com - ASRock H61M/U3S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

I think this is the one?
ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS P8H67-M LE

Can you explain about the SATA 6.0Gbps?
Yeah I think is okay... Powerful and cheap?
Actually, motherboard the support GPU or CPU boots to higher Ghz is better or?

 

[SlasherIT]

No lol, I mean the one I picked for you is perfect for your needs and saves cash.

SATA 6.0 Gbps... Enables slightly faster speeds for the hard drive... If your hard drive supports it. Your drive probably supports SATA 3.0 Gbps, but if you want to change it in the future...

I don't understand what you are trying to say "Actually, motherboard the support GPU or CPU boots to higher Ghz is better or?"

 

[Keiichi25]

SATA 6.0 Gbps is basically the data rate speed the board can go up to with regards to Hard drives. So if you have a hard drive that can support SATA 6.0 Gbps, the transfer rates will peak at 600 MBytes/s. Current SATA is 3.0 Gbps, so peaking close to 300 MBytes/s for data transfer. Faster == better for load times. However, the limitation at this point will be the drives and how fast it will be able to access data and if it conforms with SATA 3.0 Gbps or 6.0 Gbps.

The board can use slower drives, so it isn't necessary to GET new HDs unless you want to get more data throughput.

As for your last question, from the base tech specs it shows, it has a x16 PCI Express slot for 1 GPU running there. The supported CPUs are listed on a tab, the highest, from the looks of it, is the Core i7-2600 (3.4G,L3:8M,iGPU,4C,HT,rev.D2), which should be a quad core, hyper threading processor with 8 Megs of L3 cache, so you have 1 CPU processor type you can go up to from the i5-2500 previously mentioned. (It has 2 other variations listed of the i7-2600, the K and U types.)

The only thing you should concern yourself would be the memory. It will max out at 16 Gigs of DDR2 RAM, which isn't too bad and you don't need to necessarily go that high. I would lean more to 8 Gigs of DDR2, as 4 Gigs on a 64 bit is meh, better to use 8 for some breathing room. Or stay with 4 if you want to run Win7x86(32 bit).

The only real benefit of x64 for you is making use of more memory if you happen to be a heavy multi-tasker.

 

[SlasherIT]

He's going to be gaming, 4GB is fine for gaming. I don't see any games using more than 4GB of RAM. 64 bit is important even though he is going to use 4GB of RAM, because 32 bit doesn't just limit RAM, it also limits VRAM (for the GPU). So 4GB of RAM, plus, 1GB of VRAM for the GPU, which totals to 5GB... You get my point I think.

 

[Mual]

No lol, I mean the one I picked for you is perfect for your needs and saves cash.

SATA 6.0 Gbps... Enables slightly faster speeds for the hard drive... If your hard drive supports it. Your drive probably supports SATA 3.0 Gbps, but if you want to change it in the future...

I don't understand what you are trying to say "Actually, motherboard the support GPU or CPU boots to higher Ghz is better or?"

Thanks for picking the motherboard for me, you've been helping me a lot
Sorry mate, wrong typing.... What I mean is if the motherboard support GPU or CPU boots to higher GHz is better or not? Or my concept of boots of CPU and GPU boots is wrong?

SATA 6.0 Gbps is basically the data rate speed the board can go up to with regards to Hard drives. So if you have a hard drive that can support SATA 6.0 Gbps, the transfer rates will peak at 600 MBytes/s. Current SATA is 3.0 Gbps, so peaking close to 300 MBytes/s for data transfer. Faster == better for load times. However, the limitation at this point will be the drives and how fast it will be able to access data and if it conforms with SATA 3.0 Gbps or 6.0 Gbps.

The board can use slower drives, so it isn't necessary to GET new HDs unless you want to get more data throughput.

As for your last question, from the base tech specs it shows, it has a x16 PCI Express slot for 1 GPU running there. The supported CPUs are listed on a tab, the highest, from the looks of it, is the Core i7-2600 (3.4G,L3:8M,iGPU,4C,HT,rev.D2), which should be a quad core, hyper threading processor with 8 Megs of L3 cache, so you have 1 CPU processor type you can go up to from the i5-2500 previously mentioned. (It has 2 other variations listed of the i7-2600, the K and U types.)

The only thing you should concern yourself would be the memory. It will max out at 16 Gigs of DDR2 RAM, which isn't too bad and you don't need to necessarily go that high. I would lean more to 8 Gigs of DDR2, as 4 Gigs on a 64 bit is meh, better to use 8 for some breathing room. Or stay with 4 if you want to run Win7x86(32 bit).

The only real benefit of x64 for you is making use of more memory if you happen to be a heavy multi-tasker.

I get your point, but I would like to change to 64 bit very soon after I have my i5 processor installed. Thanks for the info

He's going to be gaming, 4GB is fine for gaming. I don't see any games using more than 4GB of RAM. 64 bit is important even though he is going to use 4GB of RAM, because 32 bit doesn't just limit RAM, it also limits VRAM (for the GPU). So 4GB of RAM, plus, 1GB of VRAM for the GPU, which totals to 5GB... You get my point I think.

Yeah, I'm going for gaming and I will install 64 bit Windows, which you have gave me the link.
What you think about this?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238006/build_a_gaming_pc_for_under_1000.html

 

[SlasherIT]

I already helped you finalize the components you are going to buy for the PC. Remember? I still don't understand what you mean "boot to higher GHz". The motherboard can't make the CPU faster, unless you want to overclock. The link isn't necessary, we are already helping you with this...

 

[Mual]

Okay, then don't mind that already.
I going to order it soon.
I'll let you know once I installed the new motherboard, processor and RAM

 

[Keiichi25]

I think the word you were trying to look for is 'boost'... not 'boots'. And there are no 'boosts'. It is just 'overclock' in order to get more out of the processor, and again, that assumes you get the K type processors as Slash stated. The ones with the unlocked multiplier to allow you to run at different clock speeds than the recommended.

 

[Mual]

I think the word you were trying to look for is 'boost'... not 'boots'. And there are no 'boosts'. It is just 'overclock' in order to get more out of the processor, and again, that assumes you get the K type processors as Slash stated. The ones with the unlocked multiplier to allow you to run at different clock speeds than the recommended.

I see, well I get it.
Thanks for the info, now I gonna just wait for the processor, motherboard and RAM to arrive

 

[SlasherIT]

What about the graphics card? You aren't going to get a new one? And where are you ordering from?

 

[Mual]

Well, I think I'm not getting the graphic card yet...
Well, I order from my friend the exactly same model. And I trust him because he know whats he doing, and he is a Microsft Certificate Engineer, and he knows programming, fixing and even he research and install a Microsoft Windows 98 on a phone!!!

 

[SlasherIT]

You won't be able to really play all the games you want to with a 9500GT...

 

[Mual]

Yeah I know that, but my father allow me to spend this much only...
I wish to get it but my father already sponsor me RM 500 already, and is quite much in my country.