Gaming Computer Suggestions Budget $1200 roughly

[Summerbear5]

Picked this 650 Watts - Cooler Master V650 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply

Price now at $1463.00

Also picked 128GB SanDisk SSD + 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Single Drive)

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Coolermaster uses a bunch of different manufacturers and then puts their name on the power supply. I can't find out who made that particular model. It's probably better than the earlier ones you mentioned, but it could be good, bad, or indifferent. I don't know.

I don't know if that hard drive setup is one single drive or two separate units. I'd try to get two separate units.

Not much point in commenting on one or two pieces at a time. Post the entire configuration, with brand names and prices if possible.

And model numbers.

For all I know, you can beat Cyberpower easily with an HP or Dell package. Looks like you are locked into Cyberpower for some reason.

 

[Summerbear5]

The link I posted earlier was the entire configuration but for some reason you didn't see all the parts don't know why. Don't exactly know how to post the entire configuration any other way. I could try copying and pasting...This is why I suggested though if you could get on the website with the same model AMF FX5 Eight Core Configurator.

Also I am kinda stuck on Cyberpower because I do feel in a way I am getting more for my money than HP.

*BASE_PRICE: [+855]
BLUETOOTH: None
CABLE: None
CAS: Raidmax Viper GX Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0, External SSD 2.5 inch EZ swap & Side-Panel Window [-5]
CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light [+10] (Blue Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.70 GHz (5.0GHz Turbo) Eight-Core AM3+ CPU 8MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology [+84]
CS_FAN: Default case fans
DOCKINGSTATION: None
ENGRAVING: None
FA_HDD: None
FAN: Asetek 550LC 120mm Liquid Cooling CPU Cooler - Extreme Cooling Performance (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FLASHMEDIA: None
GLASSES: None
HDD: 128GB SanDisk SSD + 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+71] (Single Drive)
HDD2: None
HEADSET: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: (Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming Keyboard & Mouse Combo (Black Color w/ Blue Light)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG V3)
MIR_VCSSD: NONE
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOPAD: None
MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE 990FXA-UD3 AMD 990 ATX w/ Ultra Durable 3, On/Off Charge, GbLAN, 4 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 1 PCI
MOUSE: None
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NFC: None
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition) + Office 365 FREE 30 Days Trial [+104]
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts - Cooler Master V650 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply [+52]
RAMDISK: None
RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 5 to 10 Business Days
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR [3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts] LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TEMP: None
TVRC: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Maxwell) [+182] (Single Card)
WNC: GIGABYTE GC-WB867D-I 802.11AC Wi-Fi up to 867 Mbps + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo w/ Dual Antenna PCI-E Adapter [+29]
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[Summerbear5]

With HP I trust them but feel limited. I only get 2 graphic cards to choose from, 2 Processors to choose from, and it doesn't come in a pretty glowing case lol.

 

[Wishmaster]

Power Supplies are certainly one of those areas you want to be sure you get a good quality unit. They aren't all the same.

The amperage on the 12V rail will be important.

Those 800W is probably cheaper for a reason.
A good high quality PSU, lets say a Seasonic x650 as an example, will power things with ease that will bring a cheaper 800-1000W units to their knees.

Something else to watch for, is what exactly does that power rating mean? Continuous or Peak Power? Does it have surge protection? Etc.

If you want to go with a SSD set up, I would go with a SSD for OS/Apps and a HD for user DATA. Or one or the other.
I wouldn't do one of those hybrids.

 

[Summerbear5]

If you want to go with a SSD set up, I would go with a SSD for OS/Apps and a HD for user DATA. Or one or the other.
I wouldn't do one of those hybrids.

This is where I am lost...like I said...I'm a noob with this kinda stuff.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Raidmax Viper GX Mid-Tower Gaming Case; 80 at Newegg
AMD FX-9590 4.70 GHz (5.0GHz Turbo) Eight-Core AM3+; 260 at Newegg
Cooler Master V650 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply; 100 at Newegg
GIGABYTE 990FXA-UD3 AMD 990 ATX; 108 at Newegg
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card; about 330
8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG V3); guessing 80
Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition); guessing 120

Above are the key components, excluding the hard drive, which I can't trace without a model number.

Price at Newegg for what's listed: $1078


I'm guessing you are locked into AMD processors also for some reason.

Look at this Cyberpower at Newegg for 1380:

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme H625LQ Desktop PC Intel Core i7 4790K (4.0GHz) 8GB DDR3 2TB HDD Windows 8.1 64-Bit - Newegg.com

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Here's a bunch of Cyberpower PCs at Newegg, from $1000 to $1500:

Newegg.com - CyberpowerPC, Newegg, $1000 - $1250, $1250 - $1500, cyber power

I'd strongly consider this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...br=1&cm_re=cyber_power-_-83-229-578-_-Product

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme H255 Desktop PC Intel Core i5 4690K (3.50GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Windows 8.1 64-Bit

Power supply could be shaky. But it's cheaper than what you've been looking at.

Add an SSD or another hard drive if and when needed.

 

[Summerbear5]

The i7 is only 4.0 while the AMD was 4.7 (5.0 turbo) that's why I choose it. This computer going to have to last 6 years at least rofl.
Also all them parts as I said I wouldn't exactly know how to put them together plus do they even come with all the cords?
The computer you linked did it have an SSD? I thought you said I should have one...I'm confused.
The other computer on CyberPower is $1,382.00 including harddrive, already put together, glowing case, glowing keyboard and mouse. 4.7 amd processor.
Was there anything else on my configuration I could/need to change?

 

[Summerbear5]

I'd strongly consider this one:

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme H255 Desktop PC Intel Core i5 4690K (3.50GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Windows 8.1 64-Bit - Newegg.com

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme H255 Desktop PC Intel Core i5 4690K (3.50GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Windows 8.1 64-Bit

Sorry I don't really like I feel it's almost the same setup I already have except it's a little better processor and video card.

Same amount of memory, same sized harddrive. I want to better myself for the long haul. Whether I need it now or not 6 years from now I'll have it.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

You're mistaken in thinking that GHz rating is all what needs to be considered.

You may not be able to get a Cyberpower with 2 separate hard drives: SSD and regular.

You don't really need an SSD for gaming purposes. They are very nice for an ordinary PC but don't add much to gaming.

You could add one later for $100 or so if you decided you needed one.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I'd strongly consider this one:

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme H255 Desktop PC Intel Core i5 4690K (3.50GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Windows 8.1 64-Bit - Newegg.com

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme H255 Desktop PC Intel Core i5 4690K (3.50GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Windows 8.1 64-Bit

Sorry I don't really like I feel it's almost the same setup I already have except it's a little better processor and video card.

Same amount of memory, same sized harddrive. I want to better myself for the long haul. Whether I need it now or not 6 years from now I'll have it.

So step up to one of the other 11 Cyberpowers in that first link in post 28.

 

[Wishmaster]

Yea, don't go by Ghz.
I like AMD, and have nothing against them.

But, you'll find that a slower Intels often outperform faster AMDs. So no. It wont be faster. A 4.0Ghz AMD may actually be slower than a 3.5Ghz Intel.

But, heres the bottom line on those 2 IMHO.
Intel will be where the performance is. But typically cost more.
AMD- less performance (at same speed) cheaper price.

Nothing wrong with either, and for gaming both will do a great job.
Intell would be the better CPU overall but If you have to sacrifice to much quality in your build to squeeze a Intel CPU into the budget, go with AMD

In other words, for gaming only PC ..
AMD + larger GPU and SSD
would be better than
Intel + slower GPU/mechanical drive only

Then again, upgrading GPUs later and HDs are easier than rebuilding the entire platform,.

 

[Summerbear5]

How about this?
Gaming Chasis: CYBERPOWERPC X-Saber w/ USB 3.0, Large Side Panel Window (Black with Blue LED)
Laser Engraving: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4790K 4.0 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
Freebies: Intel Back-to-School Ultimate System Giveaway Coupon
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Asetek 550LC 120mm Liquid Cooling CPU Cooler - Extreme Cooling Performance (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97-D3H ATX w/ Realtek GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 3 PCI, 6x SATA 6Gb/s (Pro OC Certified)
NFC: None
Intel Smart Response Technology: None
RAM / System Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG V3)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Single Card)
MIRs for Video Card + SSD Combo: NONE
Freebies: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts - Corsair CX600 600W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Hard Drive: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: 128GB SanDisk SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 490 MB/s Read & 350 MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Storage: None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: LG 14X Internal Blu-ray Burner, BD-RE, DVD+RW Combo Drive (Black Color)
Optical Drive 2: None
External Optical Drive: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: CM Storm Devastator - LED Gaming Keyboard/Mouse Combo (Black Color w/ Blue Light)
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Gaming Gear: None
Fan Controller/Temperature Display: None
Internal USB Expansion Module: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: GIGABYTE GC-WB867D-I 802.11AC Wi-Fi up to 867 Mbps + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo w/ Dual Antenna PCI-E Adapter
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Docking Station: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Cables: None
Power & Surge Protection: None
USB Hub & Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
External USB ADAPTER: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition) + Office 365 FREE 30 Days Trial
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR [3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts] LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 to 10 Business Days

it was $1,309.99 which is the same price as a custom hp one but this one has a bigger graphics card but less memory.
The custom HP had 12gb memory but the video card was only a GTX 740. As I said HP only gives 2 graphic cards to choose from kinda lame. It's the GTX 740 4gb or an AMD one 2gb.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

That looks pretty good, all things considered.

Two separate hard drives: SSD and HDD
4790K
8 GB RAM
Corsair CX 600 power supply
Gigabyte Z97 board
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 video card

Do you need a Blu-Ray burner?? If not, step down and save money.

I'd change the cooler from liquid cooled to air cooled. I wouldn't think a liquid cooler would be the best situation for someone who has little inclination to fiddle with hardware and has no serious overclocking intentions.

For that matter, if you don't intend to overclock, you can step down to a 4790 rather than a 4790K and an H97 motherboard rather than a Z97.

Even if you think you might want to overclock some day, I'd ditch the liquid cooler.

But you're in the ballpark with this one.

 

[Summerbear5]

The Blu-Ray burner was free with the i7 Processor.

Ok going to reconfigure with Air Cooled and see what I come up with. Also will take another look at motherboards.

As for the 4790K and 4790 that 0.4GHz not going to be a huge difference is it? Also I don't see an H97 as an option with a mother board.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

The Blu-Ray burner was free with the i7 Processor.

Ok going to reconfigure with Air Cooled and see what I come up with. Also will take another look at motherboards.

As for the 4790K and 4790 that 0.4GHz not going to be a huge difference is it? Also I don't see an H97 as an option with a mother board.

No, you're not likely to notice the difference between the 4790 and 4790K. The K is "unlocked", which means it is overclockable if you want to overclock. The 4790 is not. If you want to overclock, you'd need the Z97.

The 4790 is probably 30 or 40 bucks cheaper, if available.

If this PC is primarily for gaming purposes and you intend to use high resolution and play intensive games, you might consider boosting the graphics card up a notch or two, even if it meant dropping to a high level i5 like the 4690 or 4690K rather than the i7 4790/4790K to stay in budget. But I don't know exactly what you intend to do with the PC----gaming 20 percent of the time or 90 percent. The 4790 has its uses, but gaming wouldn't be a primary use for it.

In other words: if you have 700 to spend on CPU and video card, you have to consider how to split that: 350 for each or maybe 250 for the CPU and 450 for the video card. A hard core gaming guy would probably go for the 250/450 split. Otherwise, you'd probably lean toward 350 for each.

 

[Summerbear5]

Ok I don't know anything about Overclocking and probably wont do it. But as I said Z97 is really the only motherboard option it seems.

Going to do another quick customization and see what I come up with. lol getting closer.

 

[Summerbear5]

Gaming Chasis: CYBERPOWERPC X-Saber w/ USB 3.0, Large Side Panel Window (Black with Blue LED)
Laser Engraving: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4790 3.60 GHz 8MB LGA1150
Freebies: Intel Back-to-School Ultimate System Giveaway Coupon
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Enermax ETS-T40-BK Black CPU Cooler w/PWM 120mm Twister with TB Apollish Blue LED
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97-D3H ATX w/ Realtek GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 3 PCI, 6x SATA 6Gb/s (Pro OC Certified)
NFC: None
Intel Smart Response Technology: None
RAM / System Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG V3)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Maxwell) (Single Card)
MIRs for Video Card + SSD Combo: NONE
Freebies: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts - Corsair CX600 600W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Hard Drive: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: 128GB SanDisk SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 490 MB/s Read & 350 MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Storage: None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: LG 14X Internal Blu-ray Burner, BD-RE, DVD+RW Combo Drive (Black Color)
Optical Drive 2: None
External Optical Drive: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: CM Storm Devastator - LED Gaming Keyboard/Mouse Combo (Black Color w/ Blue Light)
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Gaming Gear: None
Fan Controller/Temperature Display: None
Internal USB Expansion Module: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: GIGABYTE GC-WB867D-I 802.11AC Wi-Fi up to 867 Mbps + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo w/ Dual Antenna PCI-E Adapter
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Docking Station: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Cables: None
Power & Surge Protection: None
USB Hub & Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
External USB ADAPTER: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition) + Office 365 FREE 30 Days Trial
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR [3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts] LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 to 10 Business Days

$1378

 

[Wishmaster]

I agree with ignatzatsonic

The main reason to get the K version is to overclock. If you have to intention of doing so, no need for it.

If it were me, I think Id consider upgrading the GPU from a GTX 760 to a GTX 970.
To counter the cost difference, Change the 4790K i7 to a 4690k i5.

I regards overall performance, thses changes will mean
you will gain alot of performance in gaming
you will loose some performance in heavily multi-threaded apps (such as HD Video encoding -- but if you do not do this, or seldom do this you'll likely never notice)
Everyday use will be the same.

If you can fit the i7 and GPU in the budget by all means do.
But if not, the extra GPU power will trump any advantages the i7 4790 has over the i5 4690 for gaming.