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Quick question, what games?
 

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Quick question, what games?


All of my direct x 9 games.

Cod mw
Cod WAW
Cod mw2
Cod blackops.
Forsaken world
Fallen earth


Games that don't lag
Dirt 3
Bfbc2

And yes I've tried that Microsoft trouble@hooting.
TThinh. I'll try it again tho.
 

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I'll keep looking then. We'll get it yet!
 

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(d)(d)(d) I know.............. and I'm extremely busy today but can't keep my mind on anything else.
 

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(d)(d)(d) I know.............. and I'm extremely busy today but can't keep my mind on anything else.

lol get what you have to get done first. :)
 

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Yeah right.....;)

Heres something else I found at MS again. Read especially the moderators (Nikki Han) comments about INSTALLING in compatibility mode. Might be a clue........ might not. I do have to get busy though, half packed and no supper yet. Will check back in as soon as I can.
 

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Yeah right.....;)

Heres something else I found at MS again. Read especially the moderators (Nikki Han) comments about INSTALLING in compatibility mode. Might be a clue........ might not. I do have to get busy though, half packed and no supper yet. Will check back in as soon as I can.

hmmmm.... let me try installing Black ops in compatibility with steam and windows 95
 

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BTW: DX11 is backwards compatible - it contains earlier versions..

however, some games may come with their own DX installers, in which case
additional components will be added to the resident version of DX9..
sometimes these components only apply to specific games or programs..

see here:
is directx 11 backwards compatible to directx 9 games - Microsoft Community

you can run earlier games in compatibility mode, via a right-click on the shortcut

..with specific games, it may be necessary to get onto the game's website/forums
to find out the best compatibility settings, but there is also a list here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/25539-windows-7-game-compatibility-list.html
 

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BTW: DX11 is backwards compatible - it contains earlier versions..

however, some games may come with their own DX installers, in which case
additional components will be added to the resident version of DX9..
sometimes these components only apply to specific games or programs..

see here:
is directx 11 backwards compatible to directx 9 games - Microsoft Community

you can run earlier games in compatibility mode, via a right-click on the shortcut

..with specific games, it may be necessary to get onto the game's website/forums
to find out the best compatibility settings, but there is also a list here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/25539-windows-7-game-compatibility-list.html

yes i know y its backwards compatible, bu that does not explain why its still lagging. idk for sure its even directx, however i noticed that DX11 games DONT lag, and DX9 do.
 

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I went and nosed around a couple of other forums I belong to, don't spend much time at them because this ones the best hands down, but couldn't find anything we haven't tried already. P.M.'ed someone on my "gamer" forum (Asus' Republic of Gamers) about it. Still waiting,but that forum isn't really active at least for this kind of thing. I'm at a lose but if I hear anything I'll post.
 

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I went and nosed around a couple of other forums I belong to, don't spend much time at them because this ones the best hands down, but couldn't find anything we haven't tried already. P.M.'ed someone on my "gamer" forum (Asus' Republic of Gamers) about it. Still waiting,but that forum isn't really active at least for this kind of thing. I'm at a lose but if I hear anything I'll post.

awesome! thank you! so ive been ruling out that its a directx problem.... i did an bios update, but wont be able to try until later tomorrow night. ive googled "games lag regardless of settings" and came up with some different stuff.... still looking into it...
 

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BIOS update did not help.... dang what could it be?!?!
 

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Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:

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Intel Core i5 560M @3.2GHZ~
6GB DDR3 RAM~
ATI Mobility Radeon 540v 512MB~
Intel 330 Sata III 120GB SSD~
Illuminated Keyboard
any other ideas? im playing with drivers again....
 

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Illuminated Keyboard
*&$^%#$*@# saw you posted again and was hoping you'd solved it. My friend on RoG forum didn't have any ideas we haven't tried already. O.K. back to square one. You say its an external GPU? Have you tried a different interface if so? What kind? If external, is it usb3 compatible, assuming you have a usb3 port. If so are you using that? How about the chipset for your MB or CPU? Nvidia has a new WHQL release but I don't think it would apply to you, but might be worth a look. Have you tried any of the Beta and/or Legacy drivers for Nvidia : Drivers | GeForce
 

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*&$^%#$*@# saw you posted again and was hoping you'd solved it. My friend on RoG forum didn't have any ideas we haven't tried already. O.K. back to square one. You say its an external GPU? Have you tried a different interface if so? What kind? If external, is it usb3 compatible, assuming you have a usb3 port. If so are you using that? How about the chipset for your MB or CPU? Nvidia has a new WHQL release but I don't think it would apply to you, but might be worth a look. Have you tried any of the Beta and/or Legacy drivers for Nvidia : Drivers | GeForce

i believe its an internal driver conflict between the directx versions. ive been screwing with drivers and installing different ones, and i installed a mobility radeon 4530 driver, and the performance increased dramatically! but still lags a bit, so im still messing with drivers, and see which ones i can install and try. otherwise is an ATI 6770 GPU hooked up to the Express card slot on my laptop via PE4H adapter.
 

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Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:

Windows 7 Home Premium~
Intel Core i5 560M @3.2GHZ~
6GB DDR3 RAM~
ATI Mobility Radeon 540v 512MB~
Intel 330 Sata III 120GB SSD~
Illuminated Keyboard
havent solved it yet, but im getting very close.... also all my specs are in the "my system specs" section
 

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PNY GTX 560 Ti OC
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Realtek ALC892
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20" Hanns-G HL203
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1600x900
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WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM
PSU
Corsair CX500M
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Athena Power- Black Widow
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524
Keyboard
Logitech K360 LE
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Rocketfish Nano
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60Mbps Down 8Mbps Up
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Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:

Windows 7 Home Premium~
Intel Core i5 560M @3.2GHZ~
6GB DDR3 RAM~
ATI Mobility Radeon 540v 512MB~
Intel 330 Sata III 120GB SSD~
Illuminated Keyboard
:doh: You're making more headway than I am......... maybe I should be giving YOU rep! I'll keep looking and will talk to Loki1334 again.
 

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Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060
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1TB HDD@7200
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Cooler Blast 4
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lol well its easier from my position. after all it is my computer and im stiing in front of it :D lol but thanks for your help! your the only one whos actually done something for me! :D
 

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PNY GTX 560 Ti OC
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Realtek ALC892
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20" Hanns-G HL203
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1600x900
Hard Drives
WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM
PSU
Corsair CX500M
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Athena Power- Black Widow
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524
Keyboard
Logitech K360 LE
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Rocketfish Nano
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60Mbps Down 8Mbps Up
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Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:

Windows 7 Home Premium~
Intel Core i5 560M @3.2GHZ~
6GB DDR3 RAM~
ATI Mobility Radeon 540v 512MB~
Intel 330 Sata III 120GB SSD~
Illuminated Keyboard
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