homegroup problems...

[pjuegos]

I installed LAN driver but no changes at all

I do not have with me the win7 DVD. so I cannot do a repair now.

When I installed the DVD, I tweaked the services in order to have quicker performance. This PC is just a media center and I wanted to have it light.
I wonder now if I disabled a service that might be causing this problem. I have enabled all ip v6 services but nothing seems to change

cheers

 

[chev65]

I can pretty much guarantee you that following Black Vipers guide will have many of the required services not enabled. I suggest you go back through his guide and enable everything that you disabled. That guide is highly over rated for increasing performance.

 

[pjuegos]

The router is a netgear wgr614 v7. I cannot find information of wether the router supports ipv6 or not

 

[pjuegos]

I can pretty much guarantee you that following Black Vipers guide will have many of the required services not enabled. I suggest you go back through his guide and enable everything that you disabled. That guide is highly over rated for increasing performance.

What is the Black Vipers guide?

 

[chev65]

It's the standard guide that everyone uses to disable services in Windows 7. If you disabled a bunch of services that can create a problem for certain. Only you would know which ones you disabled.

Your router is fully compatible with Windows 7 and will have zero problems supporting the ipv6 protocol.
Windows 7 Compatibility for Netgear 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless Router: Netgear. Drivers, Updates, Downloads

After you enable all the required services you may want to carefully go down the list in the link below and make sure that all requirements are met in order to create a Homegroup network.
http://www.sevenforums.com/network-sharing/20211-homegroup-issues-3.html#post436715

 

[pjuegos]

Hi Chev65,

thanks for your email

All the required services listed in the last solution of your homegroup problems list were already enabled in my PC. I tried the other steps in the list but still no luck.

Could it be that other services that I disabled might also be required?

cheers

 

[chev65]

It could easily be that as well, I have no idea what you might have disabled but it's best not to touch those settings as the so called performance gains from disabling them is greatly exaggerated.

If the page I posted didn't fix your issue then nothing will.

 

[pjuegos]

Yes, I will probably have to go through the ressources again, or doing a repair as suggested by severedsolo, which will default the ressources. Or a fresh install, which is always a good feeling once everything is reinstalled

Tweaking the ressources does not probably improve the efficiency that much. However, it can make a difference in other aspects depending on the application. I have a PC connected to a good HIFI, and when it comes to audio the less services trying to access to the CPU clock the better. For example, the USB DAC has to synch with the CPU clock and unwanted access to the CPU clock could cause synch problems.

cheers

 

[pjuegos]

Another thing:
As far as I can see, there are 2 different places to share content in the homegroups:
-going to homegroup settings and choosing what content type to share: documents, music...
- Right click in folder and select share with homegroup users.

Should both be enabled? Can you share content by right clicking the folder without going to homegroup settings at all?
I am saying that because as I mentioned in previous posts, I cannot save the homegroup settings but I can share directly at the folder, and I wonder if this will have an effect in the problem

cheers

 

[severedsolo]

Hi pjeugos, just been reading through. My you have been busy since I went to bed Given the amount of "tweaking" you have done. I'm going to agree with chev. Do a Clean Install. I can't guarantee you that a repair will fix the services you disabled. It might, but then again it might not. If it doesn't... well thats just 20 minutes wasted.

To answer your other question: In my experience it depends. Sometimes it shares the libraries as soon as you enable Homegroup (which is what it is supposed to do). Othertimes it doesn't give all the permissions it should, in which case you will need to go into the library and then click "Share with" and then "Homegroup (Read/Write)"

I hope this helps, any other questions please feel free to ask.

 

[pjuegos]

Yes, it looks that a fresh install might sort the problem out. However, the question is: do I go through the hassle of reinstalling in order to use homegroups, or I keep using the workgroups, which work no problem without having to reinstall.

Apart from the convenience of use that homegroups appear to have, what will the other advantages be? Does the use of the password increase the security level? Does the use of ipv6 over ipv4 make any difference at all?

cheers

 

[severedsolo]

"Does the use of a password increase the security level?" well that depends, if you have other machines which sometimes connect to your network (for instance a friends laptop) then the answer is yes otherwise, not really as long as your network is secured (WPA).

IPv6 vs Ipv4... to be perfectly honest, I can't say that I have ever noticed any real difference. but im not an expert this article might be helpful: IPv6 (IPng) vs. IPv4 | NetworkDictionary

for me, the one big advantage of homegroup is the ability to stream videos without having to actually transfer them to the machine you want to watch them on. At the end of the day, whether it is worth the 20 minutes or so it takes to reinstall is entirely up to you

 

[fragment137]

I'm having an interesting problem and I'm pretty sure I know where it stems from, but there shouldn't be any reason why it isn't working, because it was working before...

I have two machines.. One desktop computer, windows 7 pro 64 bit, and an ASUS G51Jx-A1 laptop with Windows 7 Home 64 bit.

I can't see my desktop from my laptop. Both have internet and network access respectively.

My computer is connected through a switch, which is run into a wired router which is connected directly to the modem. The wireless connections are brought in from a secondary router that is also connected through this one. Either way, the network is all connected to one internet source...

Shouldn't I be able to view my desktop from my laptop and vice versa?

Other notes: The laptop can see other wireless connections, as well the one computer that is connected through a wired port on the wireless router.

The desktop can only see itself, but has full internet access. There are other computers plugged into the wired router that the desktop is using.

It's very frustrating to have my computers side by side and they can't communicate over the network.

Any help is appreciated!

 

[severedsolo]

Hi fragment, well first I suggest you run through everything posted in this thread. It is pretty much a step by step troubleshooting guide for Homegroups. If that doesn't work, leave the homegroup uninstall your firewall/antivirus and then rejoin the homegroup. then reinstall your antivirus and firewall.

 

[pjuegos]

" whether it is worth the 20 minutes or so it takes to reinstall is entirely up to you

Does it take you only 20m to reinstall OS + software + drivers?

Thanks again for all your help

 

[fragment137]

I am currently still having the same issue.

This is how my network map looks:

INTERNET
|
|
WIRED ROUTER ------ DESKTOP
|
|
WIRELESS ROUTER ------ LAPTOP

So what I'm trying to figure out is how to get all computer connected to both routers to show up as one network..

Has anyone ever done this before?

 

[chev65]

I am currently still having the same issue.

This is how my network map looks:

INTERNET
|
|
WIRED ROUTER ------ DESKTOP
|
|
WIRELESS ROUTER ------ LAPTOP

So what I'm trying to figure out is how to get all computer connected to both routers to show up as one network..

Has anyone ever done this before?

Installing a Two Router Network

Installing a router to work as the second one on a home network requires special configuration. Do the following on the second router to ensure it (and the devices attached) function properly: Read more about how to set it up in the link below.

Router Setup - Two Routers on Same Home Network?

In my opinion you would be far better served by getting a router that does both Wired and wireless connections. What you are trying to do isn't a supported configuration and can be highly problematic. Good luck with it, sometimes it works, other times not so well but it is possible.

Also, the reason that Homegroups wasn't working is because your machines weren't using the same default gateway or subnet mask because you didn't have your routers set up correctly. It might work once you get both routers set up correctly but there are no guarantees.

 

[severedsolo]

" whether it is worth the 20 minutes or so it takes to reinstall is entirely up to you

Does it take you only 20m to reinstall OS + software + drivers?

Thanks again for all your help

yup well actually.... including reinstalling my games as well it takes about an hour. I've done it so many times now I can do it in my sleep

 

[severedsolo]

I am currently still having the same issue.

This is how my network map looks:

INTERNET
|
|
WIRED ROUTER ------ DESKTOP
|
|
WIRELESS ROUTER ------ LAPTOP

So what I'm trying to figure out is how to get all computer connected to both routers to show up as one network..

Has anyone ever done this before?

I actually have a very similar setup.... but in my case the routers are the same model and so recognise each other.

Its fairly easy to set up if you are familiar with configuring a router.

Firstly do you know how to change the following: (so i know how simple i need to make this)
the IP adresses in the DCHP pool
the LAN IP addresses of the routers
Changing the default gateway on Win 7

Also the brands of the router's would be handy

 

[fragment137]

I know how to change the settings on both routers, but I don't know how to change the default gateway on Windows 7. If you could still go through all the steps in any case, Just so I know when to do what it would be much appreciated. lol...

Thank you!