How to get rid of "Do you want to allow..."?

[ExNavy11]

I am sure i have had a virus once or twice since using Vista/7. Not once have I had the UAC pop out of no where asking me if I wanted to do something I didnt initiate. Im not so sure how useful the thing really is. If I open a program to run it, then I am obviously ok with it.

And if the reason they didnt allow us to mark programs as "Okay" and skip UAC, is due to not wanting a virus or something to put itself on the allow list, why cant they just add an extra security. Each time something is to be put on the "allow" list, you get a UAC prompt. Seems simple enough to me.

 

[Tews]

haha, thanks Tews We know why we don't trust Windows security!

:roflmao: Well, I certainly wasnt going to open up that can o' worms up, but of course you're right ... Yaar!

 

[masterB]

I am sure i have had a virus once or twice since using Vista/7. Not once have I had the UAC pop out of no where asking me if I wanted to do something I didnt initiate. Im not so sure how useful the thing really is. If I open a program to run it, then I am obviously ok with it.

And if the reason they didnt allow us to mark programs as "Okay" and skip UAC, is due to not wanting a virus or something to put itself on the allow list, why cant they just add an extra security. Each time something is to be put on the "allow" list, you get a UAC prompt. Seems simple enough to me.

+ rep for you also!
That crap is useless. It's asking ME to allow or not stuff but it's not doing anything to protect me.

 

[Exodus]

Anyways, M$ doesn't recommend turning it off, but its still your choice. It annoys me as well, but since it happens only a few times a day, I am ok with it for the peace of mind.

~Lordbob

M$ doesnt recommend a lot of things Or they recommend useless things, like updates and service packs which dont do a great deal.

I cant say ive ever seen UAC come up asking me if I want to allow or disallow the boot of a virus or a program I didnt ask it to, it is pretty pointless, although I wont turn it off. Its not much hassle to just press Enter or click Yes.

 

[masterB]

M$ doesnt recommend a lot of things Or they recommend useless things

I'm with you here! :roflmao:

My granpa used to say: "If the damn thing is useless, don't use it!"

 

[Exodus]

I just looked at Windows Update and it recommends Microsoft Silverlight, thanks Microsoft for trying to fill my HDD with useless $hite.

 

[Mystere]

I am sure i have had a virus once or twice since using Vista/7. Not once have I had the UAC pop out of no where asking me if I wanted to do something I didnt initiate. Im not so sure how useful the thing really is. If I open a program to run it, then I am obviously ok with it.

You misunderstand how UAC works. UAC doesn't block anything. Things are blocked by default. UAC only *ALLOWS* you to do things you would otherwise not be able to do. Most malevolent programs wouldn't pop up anything, they would just silently fail. You won't see that, you just won't get infected.

Only programs that are launched in a normal way will pop up a UAC dialog, and only programs that know about UAC can request a privilede escalation (which would also pop up a UAC).

Most malware would simply try to write to someplace like \Windows or \Program Files and would simply silently fail. Since it can't install itself, it can't restart once you reboot..

You are working under the wrong assumption that since UAC prompts don't pop up, it's useless. It's like saying "Keys are useless, because I've never seen anyone fail to open my door".

 

[Mystere]

+ rep for you also!
That crap is useless. It's asking ME to allow or not stuff but it's not doing anything to protect me.

You're right. It's not doing anything to protect you, because that's not what it does. UAC gives you the ability to do things you wouldn't otherwise be able to do in a locked down environment. That's why it's called user ACCESS control. Because it gives YOU access to things YOU want to do while in a locked-down environment.

UAC is the key to a lock. It's not the lock itself.

 

[masterB]

You're right. It's not doing anything to protect you, because that's not what it does. UAC gives you the ability to do things you wouldn't otherwise be able to do in a locked down environment. That's why it's called user ACCESS control. Because it gives YOU access to things YOU want to do while in a locked-down environment.

UAC is the key to a lock. It's not the lock itself.

It may be the key to a lock, but I like to keep the key to the lock myself(through real security software where I can close the locks I want).

 

[Mike In PA]

I was able to stop this from happening with Battlefield 2142 by unchecking "Run this program as an administrator" under the Compatibility tab in the properties of the program.

I right clicked on the Battlefield 2142 shortcut, then clicked on Properties, and then the Compatibility tab.

 

[Dzomlija]

I was able to stop this from happening with Battlefield 2142 by unchecking "Run this program as an administrator" under the Compatibility tab in the properties of the program.

I right clicked on the Battlefield 2142 shortcut, then clicked on Properties, and then the Compatibility tab.

One other solution that does not required making use of any of the options in the compatibility tab is to install a program into an "unprotected" folder. As an example: Diablo II.

At any stage of the game, pressing the "Print Screen" key will save a screenshot of the action into the program folder where the game was installed, which is by default "C:\Program Files\Diablo II" (or "C:\Program Files (x86)\Diablo II" in 64-Bit). The "Program Files" folders are protected in Vista and 7. For the "Print Screen" function of Diablo II to work corrctly, the game must be run as an administrator in order to allow write access to the "Program Files" folder.

I eliminated this "Run As Administrator" requirement by installing Diablo II (most of my games, really) into an unprotected folder, such as "C:\Games". And I have yet to make use of any compatibility options to get my games to work.

 

[chrysalis]

Microsoft took the lazy way of improving UAC which a guy on the net made a fuss about.

There is a whitelist for UAC.

However it is not configurable.
There is no way to even temporary whitelist a program.

 

[Lordbob75]

Microsoft took the lazy way of improving UAC which a guy on the net made a fuss about.

There is a whitelist for UAC.

However it is not configurable.
There is no way to even temporary whitelist a program.

That is for security reasons.
What if a Virus/malware white listed itself?

Oops.

~Lordbob

 

[Slimer]

Wasn't this fixed after M$ listened to its customers?

Do you mean these prompts?

View attachment 15549

Short answer= Without disabling UAC, You can't

It's the one thing that irks me about Seven.

I thought being able to adjust this was part of the UAC fix M$ was supposed to have implemented after listening to its customers. If I have to disable UAC because of this annoyance, then I might as well stay with F'ed up Vista! What exactly did M$ change as part of "listening to its customer?" So far I haven't heard of any good customer implemented changes in "7" while reading this forum! I mean at least allow the "Admin" to allow certain programs to run without having to ask permission every time they launch.

 

[chrysalis]

Microsoft took the lazy way of improving UAC which a guy on the net made a fuss about.

There is a whitelist for UAC.

However it is not configurable.
There is no way to even temporary whitelist a program.

That is for security reasons.
What if a Virus/malware white listed itself?

Oops.

~Lordbob

welll I guess this is debate maybe for a new topic I dont know.

My thoughts are if it was made to pass a UAC prompt to whitelist a program then in affect UAC would prompt if such a trojan tried to whitelist itself. Like this "program sometrojan.exe wants have permission for automatic UAC elevelation for 2 hours should I proceed yes/no RECCOMENDED NO" if an app found a way to bypass the prompt then it would probably also have found a way to bypass UAC altogether, such a way to bypass the prompt eg. would be to emulate a program that is in the whitelist such as notepad (if that is still in there).

 

[ickymay]

having to use UAC leaves me feeling like my mum is watching every click I make on my PC, which is very unnerving

I have yet to see a real reason for UAC that makes sense

 

[Snowdog]

Unless there is a workaround for this, I am going to end up turning off UAC, because it is too bloody annoying to have to get permission over an over again for running the same will known programs...

I ran XP for years without a UAC and without viruses.

This is the kind of broken security engineering that annoys people so much they shut it off. You can't even get selective about what you shut off.

 

[Lordbob75]

Unless there is a workaround for this, I am going to end up turning off UAC, because it is too bloody annoying to have to get permission over an over again for running the same will known programs...

I ran XP for years without a UAC and without viruses.

This is the kind of broken security engineering that annoys people so much they shut it off. You can't even get selective about what you shut off.

Do you really run things that require UAC every 5 minutes? You really can't stand to click YES every now and then? Its not much worse than having to double click to open something...

But if you really do, then turn it off. Just remember to be smart about it.

~Lordbob

 

[Snowdog]

I just installed win7 on the weekend past and I am going through the process of installing all the apps I want, tracking down compatible replacements etc.... So it was going off a lot for me.

I went from default UAC, to stop turning my screen gray, to finally shutting it off....

Not having some kind of white list is a deal breaker for me and seem like a really poor design choice because many are simply going to shut it off rather than get annoyed with this all the time.

 

[Lordbob75]

I just installed win7 on the weekend past and I am going through the process of installing all the apps I want, tracking down compatible replacements etc.... So it was going off a lot for me.

I went from default UAC, to stop turning my screen gray, to finally shutting it off....

Not having some kind of white list is a deal breaker for me and seem like a really poor design choice because many are simply going to shut it off rather than get annoyed with this all the time.

This was intentional so there was no way for the virus to put it self on the white list...

~Lordbob