How to know what drivers you will need for clean install.

[ariel5345]

Your Documents did not get moved to a Data Partition. They are still sitting on C - right? Are the others the same?

I restored them back when It didn't work right. Remember I posted the picture on you tutorial?

The error message you are getting seems to come from the search server and has something to do with indexing. From here I can only speculate: It is possible that the files you deleted were present when the index was built and since you deleted them, indexing cannot find them any more.

Can you possibly switch the indexing off and make a straight search?

I just did a search in Explorer to test it..... Duh! It said search may be slow in non indexed locations C:/. So apparently Nothing is indexed.
I'm sorry I was just going through and trying to fix whatever errors where in the log. So I guess I need to set up my indexing correctly first then check back with the log to see if the errors are gone.
But wait I just read that if my documents are added to the Library they are auto indexed. I can explore any file through the Library. I need a tutorial on setting up and customizing the index. Thanks Whs.

 

[whs]

Hope you have luck with that. Keep us posted.

 

[ariel5345]

I went to search indexing/modify and all my user folders from A:data drive were still listed and checked for indexing. Strange... because I did use the restore button when I moved them back to C: drive. As per your tutorial.

 

[gregrocker]

Click on Modify, delete the unwanted folders, select User and storage folders plus anything else you want indexed, then on Advanced click Rebuild Index to reindex with the new choices.

What you select depends on what you may want to find in the future. If you're not sure, index it all. I need to find Windows files for reference here, and Program Files to know they are installed.

 

[ariel5345]

Click on Modify, delete the unwanted folders, select User and storage folders plus anything else you want indexed, then on Advanced click Rebuild Index to reindex with the new choices.

What you select depends on what you may want to find in the future. If you're not sure, index it all. I need to find Windows files for reference here, and Program Files to know they are installed.

Ok I did this and no more errors.

Now I have the following errors that seem to point to the bios. I was just checking with you first before I flash again.
1. Boot time is slow
2. Thumbdrive Scan disk slow read problems
3. Stanby mode degredation
4. Wake from sleep is slow.

I couldn't use this method for http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73420-hardware-identification.html No ven id nor dev id in device manager for Mobo.

I found this site and supposedly all AMD bios are universal. Does this site look reputable to you? AMD Bios Drivers for Windows XP, Vista & Windows 7
And is this what I am looking for?


I ran a benchmarking program and it list my bios for an update.

This is my Mobo

this is my chipset

this is my Cpu


So do I go ahead with the flash? Is AMD my bios manufacturer? Is the above site the correct place to get my bios driver?

Thanks again Rocker!
I really enjoy learning all this stuff. I didn't know about the event viewer before this. I love it!

 

[gregrocker]

I would run the tool the Pro's use to trace slow boot, standby and wake times.

Our own Cluberti is the top expert on this and will help you interpret the trace from which you will learn an enormous amount and sort all of the related issues.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...up-shutdown-sleep-hibernate-reboot-trace.html

 

[ariel5345]

Hey greg. I bought a new HD. A 7200 16mb cache Seagate 2.5. I used disk wizard and cloned my hard drive. I put the new drive in and windows will not boot up says it cannot find device. So I guess I cannot upgrade my hard drive since I cannot get any firmware drivers from HP to support the drive. I'm guessing because I don't know. Seagate has no firmware for the model hd I bought. It says I have to go to my manufactorer. I may be wrong but I think I am only allowed to use a certain HD or can I get a driver from somewhere else?

 

[gregrocker]

The SATA controller driver (not firmware) for your new Seagate will be in installed Win7's driverstore.

It's likely the cloning didn't go correctly. Try Seagates' premium Acronis cloning app: Seagate Acronis cloning free util
Make sure you clone the MBR and Track 1.

Plug the cloned HD into 1st SATA port, set first to boot in BIOS setup, unplug the source HD. Does HD show up in BIOS setup? If so, boot the WIn7 DVD Repair console or Repair CD to Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times after checking that Win7 partition is marked Active: Partition - Mark as Active (Method Two)

 

[ariel5345]

The SATA controller driver (not firmware) for your new Seagate will be in installed Win7's driverstore.

This is what Seagate said.

Seagate does not supply drivers for SATA drives because hard drives themselves do not require specific device drivers. Operating systems such as Windows or MacOS may not automatically recognize the SATA controller in the system. This is especially true if the hardware is newer than the operating system.

The SATA controller will either be embedded on the motherboard or a SATA add-on card. Windows 7, Vista and XP operating systems will usually recognize a SATA motherboard controller. SATA add-on cards will more than likely prompt for a driver. In either case, if the drive is not recognized by the OS Setup software, then you will need to supply a controller device driver.

The SATA controller driver can usually be found on the CD or website of the system, motherboard or SATA controller card manufacturer.

If the SATA controller is recognized during Setup without special drivers, then you can complete the installation. After the initial setup, check for driver updates from the OS or controller manufacturer.

Common Windows scenario:
When performing a new installation of Windows from CD of Windows XP or 2000, you will be prompted to push the F6 key to "install additional controller drivers".

When performing a new installation from DVD of Windows 7 or Vista a box will prompt “Where do you want to install Windows?” If the SATA hard drive is not showing then click the Load Driver option.

The "additional controller driver" is the SATA controller driver. Whether the SATA controller is embedded on the motherboard or is an add-on card, the driver(s) can be found on the CD or website of the manufacturer. If you need more information on installing SATA controller drivers, please consult the manufacturer's website.

So I checked HP and they have them listed under firmware but only for Hitachi brand HD.


Only for these models. The firmware update would entail me using a USB Key to make it.


Yet..... I bought the Seagate because this site said it was compatible with my computer.

It's likely the cloning didn't go correctly. Try Seagates' premium Acronis cloning app: Seagate Acronis cloning free util
Make sure you clone the MBR and Track 1.

This is exactly what I did.... and yes both the Mbr and track1 was recognized and cloned.
I ran repair from the install cd 5 times. It doesn't see the new drive. There are no error codes as far as the repair report goes everything works fine in boot.

Should I try to clone it again?
Seagate has no driver for me. Hp has no driver for me. So what do I do. Return and buy a Hitachi model that HP lists for Vista? Because that is all they list is Vista Hitachi drivers.

I do not understand the other tutorials you linked me to. You would have to slow it down for me.

 

[mjf]

I'm a bit confused about your confusion concerning your Seagate sata HDD drivers. Windows provides them. See here for my Seagate

and the statement Seagate post
Where can I get the most popular downloads for my hard drive?
Note the reference to firmware which may need attention sometimes will be addressed by Seagate.

Drivers for other devices can be provided by your Motherboard manufacturer or direct from the device manufacturer if required.

Frustration: No acknowledgement - Why do I waste my time!
subsequent posts deleted.

 

[gregrocker]

Maybe I didn't make it clear in my last post, you do not need a driver for your HD as Win7 already has it.

There is another reason the clone isn't working, likely found in the cloning process. This is why I suggested you try it again using Acronis' Seagate app.

Is the cloned HD seen by the BIOS, determined by entering BIOS setup at boot? Is it set first to boot and plugged into first SATA port on mobo?

Is Win7 marked System Active on cloned HD when viewing the HD using free Partition Wizard bootable CD?

 

[ariel5345]

Maybe I didn't make it clear in my last post, you do not need a driver for your HD as Win7 already has it.

You are clear.

There is another reason the clone isn't working, likely found in the cloning process. This is why I suggested you try it again using Acronis' Seagate app.

I re-ran and re-cloned with acronis disk wizard. Here is an interesting picture.



It is marked IDE. Is that a clue?

Is the cloned HD seen by the BIOS, determined by entering BIOS setup at boot? Is it set first to boot and plugged into first SATA port on mobo?

I entered Bios (while new HD was in First and ONLY slot) and I went through everything and I do not know how to see if it is SEEN by bios. Yet My new drive is not listed anywhere in bios.

Is Win7 marked System Active on cloned HD when viewing the HD using free Partition Wizard bootable CD?

I assume I needed the bootable version, and I burned it, and yes...... it lists both partitions and the system reserve as Active. The C: partition is marked status=NONE/primary.

I then immediately went into diskpart in dos from shift/f10 and it listed both partitions as primary. I selected system reserve Partition and marked it as active.
Then it still would not boot. I went to repair using win install disk and in the system restore UI box my HD is not found nor seen. Only the D:drive DVD windows 7 install disk is seen.
I ran the repair 3 times. Windows said I need to remove whatever thing is new that I plugged in and try again.
The reason I think I need some driver is because windows repair=system restore box said If my System partition (HD) is not listed in this box then load drivers.
Seagate said that it will not be recognized allot of times and that I need a driver from my manufacturer.

Is this some kind of Hybrid IDE/SATA controller thingy? The old and new drives have the same connection. Though there is an adapter I have to change out on the tip of the connector. Yet this is pin for pin to be able to connect by snapping down into my laptop instead of sliding sideways into a connector.

I think the firmaware updates that HP has is to change the MOBO controller from IDE to Sata. Of course I do not know what I'm talking about.

Ps. I am not hardwired while doing all of this. If windows needs to connect to internet I do not believe it can unless the repair cd has wireless driver.

Please don't get frustrated with me.
I know I'm stupid.

Thanks again for the help. Your are awesome.

 

[theog]

Boot up using the Startup disk CD or Windows 7 DVD. (not the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Disk) If you have a Netbook, you will need a CD/DVD drive.
Make sure no USB drives are plugged in.

Try this:
1) Use the Rebuild BCD in this tutorial:
How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows



than
2) Fix MBR.

 

[gregrocker]

Are you saying that you bought a SATA drive but are using an adapter to plug it into an IDE port because you don't have SATA ports on the mobo? Can you plug a new SATA HD into a SATA port? What ports are available?

What is the SATA controller setting in BIOS setup?

While in BIOS setup see how the HD is recognized.

 

[theog]

Hi Greg

HP/Compaq adapter

 

[ariel5345]

Are you saying that you bought a SATA drive but are using an adapter to plug it into an IDE port because you don't have SATA ports on the mobo? Can you plug a new SATA HD into a SATA port? What ports are available?

What is the SATA controller setting in BIOS setup?

While in BIOS setup see how the HD is recognized.

Hi Greg

HP/Compaq adapter

View attachment 171776

Yes that is the adapter. Further investigating shows that my old fujitsi hd is ide interface.



The Hp firmware updates for Hitachi SATA drives will change the controller from Ide to sata. I think it might work for The seagate I bought because the site said it was compatible with my model HP Presario.
I am thinking of doing this firmware update which I will have to load onto a usb key and then reboot and follow instructions. If it does not work with the Seagate I bought then I will order The Hitachi that I have already found that matches the supported model numbers at HP support site.

Unless you guys see a big NO-No.

 

[theog]

The Hp firmware updates for Hitachi SATA drives will change the controller from Ide to sata.

Sorry, but it will not.

 

[ariel5345]

Ok.... I have a sata connector on both the new drive and the old drive. Yet the speccy report says my old drive has IDE interface. Yes both the drives I have look like the Sata picture you posted on the right.

 

[gregrocker]

Can you plug them into a SATA port using a SATA connector?

 

[ariel5345]

Yes I have swapped them out 10 times in my Laptop. I just read that the firmware update will not take place unless I have one of the supported Hitachi HD's in my Laptop at the time. I think that Hp somehow was able to use Sata HD with IDE controllers. The supported HD for my Hp laptop (hitachi) all are sata drives, I googled them and They are all SATA drives. The one I have now in my laptop is IDE yet it plugs in just Like a sata.