i think my brand new VIDEO CARD is broken

[SquonkSC]

A bit off, but also on topic.

2 hours to render that picture in draft quality is not good at all.

I do a rendering like that in less than 1 hour and I have an el cheapo graphics card, thus CPU's doing all the work.

There's no caustics, no physics and no kinetix in that image as far as I can tell, so it should go much much faster.

This tells me your 3d card is doing nothing at all, and I even suspect that not both CPU cores are being used.

With that card and dual core you should be able to render it in 20 minutes max.

You better check the 3d graphics driver section in 3DMax, cause something isn't right.

And check your CPU usage in taskmanager while doing a render.

I bet that one is on 100% and the other maybe 20%, and your graphics card is just hanging around.

SLI by the way, is totally unnecessary for 3dStudio.

So sell one card, keep the PSU, get in touch with Autodesk support to ask how to set up your rig to maximize it for 3dMax, and your done.

Greetz,

 

[edrik]

im using revit architecture maybe that's why it renders slower than max

 

[SquonkSC]

im using revit architecture maybe that's why it renders slower than max

But I can't believe the performance would be that bad.

I did faster renderings on my pentium II.


It's worth to check the 3d driver section within the software.
And check if there's an option to select multiple cores.

Or contact the support desk of the software.

You can ditch that second card, cause it won't make any difference in 3D software.
Only games benefit from SLI.

 

[edrik]

i thought it might help in my 3d modelling..
Revit Architecture has a 3d isometric view for the structure..

yeah.. im thinking of selling the video card too.. maybe i'll buy more ram after selling it..

 

[Mark]

But I can't believe the performance would be that bad.

I did faster renderings on my pentium II.


It's worth to check the 3d driver section within the software.
And check if there's an option to select multiple cores.

Or contact the support desk of the software.

You can ditch that second card, cause it won't make any difference in 3D software.
Only games benefit from SLI.

So you recon something like a single GTX260 or GTX275 would be better for him?

 

[chev65]

True the SLI won't help with rivit on a regular computer. But the Nvidia Quadro work stations can use SLI but they are expensive. Nvidia Quadro Plex Visual Computing Solution

 

[edrik]

But I can't believe the performance would be that bad.

I did faster renderings on my pentium II.


It's worth to check the 3d driver section within the software.
And check if there's an option to select multiple cores.

Or contact the support desk of the software.

You can ditch that second card, cause it won't make any difference in 3D software.
Only games benefit from SLI.

i forgot to mention that i had anti aliasing set to 7 after importing draft quality settings

a draft render usually takes around 2-10 mins i think depending on the size.... but i rarely use draft quality alone since its output is too bad...most of the time i import settings and tweak the antialiasing for a much better quality of the output image


Also,
I tried putting the card back again.. and my system detected it.. but after a few minutes my monitor flickered and my computer did not respond so i had to take it out again

 

[edrik]

True the SLI won't help with rivit on a regular computer. But the Nvidia Quadro work stations can use SLI but they are expensive. Nvidia Quadro Plex Visual Computing Solution

whoah that's too expensive :shock:
maybe an iceQ4 card would do almost the same for a lower price ?
what do you guys think

 

[chev65]

whoah that's too expensive :shock:
maybe an iceQ4 card would do almost the same for a lower price ?
what do you guys think

No doubt that is the big time for that type of work and very expensive. Depends on the level of committment I guess.

I did read that running more Ram 12GB helps Revit and that the 64 bit version of Rivit is supposed to be much better.

8.) Consider Revit 64. To be perfectly honest, I don’t know much about this one, but I understand that 64 bit version of Revit will be available to subscription users very soon. Rumor has it that 64 bit rendering runs significantly faster and smoother. Graphics gurus can speak volumes about this more than I, but with a basic understanding, 64 bit has got to be better than 32 bit no matter how you slice it.

 

[edrik]

im currently using 64bit Revit Architecture but only on 6GB ram.. maybe I'll buy the ram if someone buys spare my graphics card..

 

[chev65]

Yes but you are using Win7 X86 which is holding back your 64bit program and can't even use all the Ram you now have. You really need to go with Win7 X64 with 12GB Ram. Revin should be flying after that.

 

[SquonkSC]

Yes but you are using Win7 X86 which is holding back your 64bit program and can't even use all the Ram you now have. You really need to go with Win7 X64 with 12GB Ram. Revin should be flying after that.

Running x64 sw on 32bit OS is impossible.

Other way around usually works.


edit: I think he forgot to update specs.

 

[chev65]

Running x64 sw on 32bit OS is impossible.

Other way around usually works.

Not only that but the Op system can only address 3GB of his 6GB Ram.

 

[edrik]

sorry forgot to update my specs.. im running 64bit now

 

[edrik]

Mr. Grim.. i would like to know if i understood this clearly..


If i want to keep my PSU.. i need to buy graphics cards that have 12v rail support or 6pin connections.. am i right ?


And if i want to keep my graphics cards... i have to buy a PSU that will provide at least 400w on a single rail.. am i right ?

 

[Mark]

That's pretty much it, although the cards don't have a single 12v rail, they have a 6 pin external power connector which will allow them to feed from a different 12v rail other then the one supplying power to the Motherboard.

 

[edrik]

i see.. thank you again mr grim... i'll tell my dad and let him choose which to buy..

but in your own expert opinion which would you prefer ?
a new PSU or new graphics cards ?
(also which are easier to sell?)

 

[Zidane24]

i see.. thank you again mr grim... i'll tell my dad and let him choose which to buy..

but in your own expert opinion which would you prefer ?
a new PSU or new graphics cards ?
(also which are easier to sell?)

If I had to reccomend one or the other I would go for the PSU. Definately the one that will take more time to setup...it is much more beneficial than a Graphics Card. If your GFX is a really old and bad one than go for it

 

[Mark]

i see.. thank you again mr grim... i'll tell my dad and let him choose which to buy..

but in your own expert opinion which would you prefer ?
a new PSU or new graphics cards ?
(also which are easier to sell?)

If I was you I would get better Graphics cards with the 6 pin connection, if it was me building your Rig I would get a good PSU like the 1000 Watt Dual Rail like this one.

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies





And a single GTX295 like this one.

Graphic Cards - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 200 Series - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295

 

[Antman]

Kuya, get the power supply. It will benefit everything in your PC. Price breaks on very good PSUs don't happen often. You can easily find a good deal on high-end video cards, especially brand new ones that are aging on the shelf.

Maraming salamat po Tita Cory. God Bless.