IE8 Cannot display webpage -Random error help please

byngo

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Hi,
I reported on this problem some time ago in the Browser forum and i thought i had cured it by restarting my modem and the router but it seems the problem "creeps" back.

My set-up is a virgin media broadband connection to one of their modems, which then has a 20m CAT5E running outside the house to the Router (also supplied by VM).
My desktop PC is cat5'd to the router which are close together.
I've had this set-up for sometime now and never experience problems when my desktop was running XP and IE7. I also have a laptop running XP, IE7 and AVG free which uses the wireless connection and does not suffer any connection problems at all.

My desktop is now running WIN7 32bit and IE8 with Kapersky Internet Security 2010. ( I have also tried AVG free before kapersky and also tried firefox).

When i remove power from the modem and router and re-start them, the problem seems to be fixed but then by the end of the week, i am experiancing the problem again on random websites, some work, some seem to time-out and give the error message.
If I click on the "Diagnose Connection Problems" Win7 goes through its motions but tells me the problem could not be identified. Then when I close the troubleshooter, IE8 seems to do a refresh and the page i wanted displays just fine.
I cant work out whats going on.
I have tried replacing the 2m cat5 between PC and router with no effect.

Any ideas please?:sick:
 

My Computer

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Self Build
OS
windows 7 ultimate 32bit
CPU
C2D E8400 @ Stock 3.0Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P5N-E SLI
Memory
4 gig of Corsair high speed
Graphics Card(s)
8800GT 512MB
Sound Card
on board
Monitor(s) Displays
standard 4:3 VGA monitor and 50" 1080P Plasma
Hard Drives
500gig sata
250 Gig IDE
1TB SATA
PSU
Corsair HX520
Case
Generic ATX
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80mm rear & 120mm side, standard Intel CPU cooler
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microsoft wireless
Mouse
microsoft wireless
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Hauppage Nova HD2 satellite tuner card &
Bluray ROM Drive
Have you tried using a different browser, to see if the problem persists?
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
LENOVO K450 @3.0GHZ
OS
64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
CPU
Core(TM) i5 CPU 4330 Haswell @ 3.20GHz
Motherboard
LENOVO
Memory
12.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Intel HD integtrated
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 25' ISP Monitor
Screen Resolution
1900/1020
Hard Drives
(1) ST1000DM003-1CH162 (2) Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device (3) Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device
Internet Speed
100mb down/10mb up
You said which then has a 20m CAT5E running outside the house to the Router. How long is the run? Perhaps the length is causing the problem?
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
Keyboard
Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
Internet Speed
Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
You said which then has a 20m CAT5E running outside the house to the Router. How long is the run? Perhaps the length is causing the problem?

As stated, the run is 20m (20 Metres). This run provides the feed between the modem and the router. I questioned this myself but the router of course provides for the wirless connection which my laptop has no trouble with.
From research on the net 20m is no problem for Cat5 cable so long as it is not run parallel to power lines or at least be sheilded by being in a conduit. I would have thought that if the 20m run is a problem, then the wirless output from the router would also suffer as well as any "hardwired" equipment coming off it such as my desktop.

Have you tried using a different browser, to see if the problem persists?

As stated, I tried using Firefox. Forgot to mention though that I also tried Google Chrome. To my suprise, they both displayed exactly the same symptoms.
 

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Self Build
OS
windows 7 ultimate 32bit
CPU
C2D E8400 @ Stock 3.0Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P5N-E SLI
Memory
4 gig of Corsair high speed
Graphics Card(s)
8800GT 512MB
Sound Card
on board
Monitor(s) Displays
standard 4:3 VGA monitor and 50" 1080P Plasma
Hard Drives
500gig sata
250 Gig IDE
1TB SATA
PSU
Corsair HX520
Case
Generic ATX
Cooling
80mm rear & 120mm side, standard Intel CPU cooler
Keyboard
microsoft wireless
Mouse
microsoft wireless
Other Info
Hauppage Nova HD2 satellite tuner card &
Bluray ROM Drive
The easiest way to see if the CAT5 cable is the problem is to replace it, though it probably is not the problem since wireless off the router works okay as you said.

Still, if it were me, I'd replace it or at least run another cable inside the house to test with for awhile, see what happens.
 

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Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
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Windows 10 Pro X64
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Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
Keyboard
Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
Internet Speed
Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
i have this same problem

Im running 50mb virgin media
2m ethernet cable direct to the modem

The problem isnt the cables it is somthing to do with virgin and windows7 imo i just dont know what yet

Using firefox ect does not fix the problem either
 

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Intel I7 950 @ 4.5
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Asus X58
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Nvidia GTX 480 SLI
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 30"
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 2E BigFoot
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Xigmatek 1500W
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Corsair 800D
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Custom Water
The cable length can't be the problem.
10BaseT as well as 100BaseTX allow for segment lenghts up to 100 m (328 ft.). Then you slap on a repeater and can go another 100m ;)

Since the symptoms are identical, no matter what browser you use
it's more likely either the tcp-stack or the hardware.
I found something that might help you (freezes with Virgin mobile are more common than one should think)
perhaps it works for you, too

Go into tools then internet options then advanced tab at the far right then after all the dropdown options there is a large rectangular box with the words Restore advanced settings (it is just above the Reset button) click this then finally, the Reset button and select reset. This is exactly what the Engineer told me to do today and it has stopped my connection freezing and also, makes my speed much faster.

Good luck
-DG
 

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HP m8000n
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Windows 7 Ultimate x86
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DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2600 MHz 5200+
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Asus M2N68-LA (Narra)
Memory
Samsung 2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
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Onboard nVIDIA nForce 6100-430 (MCP61P)
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Westinghouse 19" LED
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SATA II Seagate Barracuda 500GB
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USB II WD My Book 2TB
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Stock (HP)
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Stock
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Logitech Classic KB 200
Mouse
Standard HP opticle USB mouse
Well Cupra,
In a way I'm glad someone else has the same problem. Does yours cure itself for a day or two if you restart the modem (ie disconnect power)?? I have subscribed to this post so I can see if anyone makes any progress.

SledgeDG,
Thanks for the advice, not sure what you mean by "Freezes". What were your symptoms?
For me, browsing the web works well 70 to 80% of the time on a weekly basis but then on another day it will seem to take ages to load some web pages, but not all, or it might time out with the "diagnose connection problems" being displayed. I then re-start the modem and router and it goes back to normal.

I don't like messing with such settings unless I know what it does or I know I can go back if it makes things worse. (mmm!!, Maybe system restore point before I try what you suggested)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Build
OS
windows 7 ultimate 32bit
CPU
C2D E8400 @ Stock 3.0Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P5N-E SLI
Memory
4 gig of Corsair high speed
Graphics Card(s)
8800GT 512MB
Sound Card
on board
Monitor(s) Displays
standard 4:3 VGA monitor and 50" 1080P Plasma
Hard Drives
500gig sata
250 Gig IDE
1TB SATA
PSU
Corsair HX520
Case
Generic ATX
Cooling
80mm rear & 120mm side, standard Intel CPU cooler
Keyboard
microsoft wireless
Mouse
microsoft wireless
Other Info
Hauppage Nova HD2 satellite tuner card &
Bluray ROM Drive
Freezes in this context seems to mean the connection itself becomes unresponsive.
As I wrote, I found that solution when I checked the virgin mobile broadband forum
A restore point can't hurt anything. All what that tip does is reset the Internet Explorer settings.
But on second thought...since a hard reset of the modem (pull the plug) rectifies the situation, there is a good chance that the modem itself is the culprit.
I had a similar situation a few weeks ago when the hard reset didn't work anymore . So after exhausting all of my options I called my cable provider and the techie came out, ultimately exchanging the cable modem.
Perhaps you should try that too...since you pay them, they should as well see to it that their end of the deal is working as expected ;)

-DG
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP m8000n
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x86
CPU
DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2600 MHz 5200+
Motherboard
Asus M2N68-LA (Narra)
Memory
Samsung 2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Sound Card
Onboard nVIDIA nForce 6100-430 (MCP61P)
Monitor(s) Displays
Westinghouse 19" LED
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
SATA II Seagate Barracuda 500GB
USB II WD Elements 500GB
USB II WD My Book 1TB
USB II WD My Book 2TB
PSU
Stock (HP)
Case
Stock (HP)
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Logitech Classic KB 200
Mouse
Standard HP opticle USB mouse
Hi byngo,

Do you have the latest router's firmware? You may find this out from the manufacturer's site.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Desktop/Samsung Laptop
OS
Win7 & Win8 64bit
CPU
Intel i5
Internet Speed
Charter-20 Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
FF, IE9 and Chrome
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