Is Win 7 getting slower?

GRoston

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Call me a conspiracy theorist if you wish, but recently, all of my Win 7 machines seem to be behaving strangely. Simple tasks seem to hang the computer for a period of time and there is excessive disk activity. Is MS providing "updates" that cause these misbehaviors?

No - my machine is not infected. I have my standard AV and I have also checked with MalWareBytes and SpyBot S&D. I have also removed all updates related to Win 10 and have confirmed this using GWX Control Panel.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 x64 Pro
CPU
Core i7 860 @ 3.8 GHz
Motherboard
MSI P55-GD80
Memory
16 GB F3-12800CL7D (DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24)
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK
I haven't noticed any slowdown on my Windows 7 computer.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
Memory
G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 HD
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
PSU
Corsair VS450
Case
Codeng
Cooling
PSU fan & CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech Wireless trackball M570
Internet Speed
Wireless 3G. 3mg down & 550kb up.
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
Browser
Opera (Current Version) & Firefox
Other Info
MS Office 2013 Pro. Davis weather station software. MGE Nova 600 avr UPS.
My computer is old but it's not doing strange things.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS X550ZE
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-BIT
CPU
AMD A8 7200P
Motherboard
N/A
Memory
8GB 1600mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R5 (APU) + Radeon R5 M230 2GB Dual Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek ALC269 with SonicMaster
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop Display
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 @60hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD50 00LPVX-80V0TT0 (500GB)
PSU
Laptop Charger
Mouse
ARMAGGEDON TEXTRON SCORPION 7
Internet Speed
100 mbps DOWN / 50 mbps UP
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Mozzila FireFox, Valve Steam in-game internet browser
I am definitely getting older and slower but my Win 7 powered PC is still flying.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Owner Builder
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 OEM
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Asus X79 Deluxe
Memory
Kingston Genesis KHX2133C11D3K4/32G
Graphics Card(s)
Asus RTX 2070 Ti Turbo fan series
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster ZXR
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung U32J39 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 x 2160
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256 GB
OCZ Vertex 4 512GB
Western Digital Black 4TB
PSU
Corsair AX850
Case
Gigabyte
Cooling
Push - Pull 120 mm Noctua PWM, Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B
Keyboard
Logitech K800 Backlit
Mouse
Logitech MX2 Master
Internet Speed
NBN 25 Mbps
Antivirus
Kaspersky Internet Security
Browser
Mozilla FireFox
Other Info
TP-Link Archer VR600v
Sennheiser TR220 WiFi Head Phones.
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you wish, but recently, all of my Win 7 machines seem to be behaving strangely. Simple tasks seem to hang the computer for a period of time and there is excessive disk activity. Is MS providing "updates" that cause these misbehaviors?

No - my machine is not infected. I have my standard AV and I have also checked with MalWareBytes and SpyBot S&D. I have also removed all updates related to Win 10 and have confirmed this using GWX Control Panel.

I have not noticed anything as well, are your systems using ssd's as their OS drives and what is using your disk in Resource Monitor? Try looking for the excessive disk usage with this from Microsoft. right click the columns and then go to the process disk tab and enable them all and then see if one is super excessive that is in line with Resource Monitor's findings.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
10 Pro x64
CPU
Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard
Asrock x370 Tachi
Memory
64GB(4x16GB) DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti FTW3
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar Essence STX (V4 Bursons), ODAC rev B, NFB-11, O2
Monitor(s) Displays
3xASUS PB278Q/R, Optoma HD142X
Screen Resolution
3x1440p, 1080p
Hard Drives
512GB 850 EVO(OS, Programs)
4TB (Movies)
3TB (Downloads)
3TB (Programs)
1TB HDD (Games)
2x6TB R1 (videos)
PSU
AX760
Case
Fractal Define R5
Cooling
NH-D15S
Keyboard
Massdrop Ctrl with Box Navy's
Mouse
G903, Alioth XXL Mat
Internet Speed
280/40
Antivirus
MBAM, ESET
Browser
Canary 64 Bit
Other Info
I also own a Thinkpad P50 Xeon 4K, X220T, X1C5
Hi,
Yep resource monitor can be a useful tool to see what's going on
Usual cause is svchost.exe either eating up cpu or memory

I use also RealTemp to see easily on my taskbar the temperature so if things seem slow usually the temps will fluctuate or increase
That will give a clue when to look at resource monitor to see the offenders
Download Real Temp 3.70 | techPowerUp

But no if svchost is not acting up then windows is fast.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Hi,
Yep resource monitor can be a useful tool to see what's going on
Usual cause is svchost.exe either eating up cpu or memory

I use also RealTemp to see easily on my taskbar the temperature so if things seem slow usually the temps will fluctuate or increase
That will give a clue when to look at resource monitor to see the offenders
Download Real Temp 3.70 | techPowerUp

But no if svchost is not acting up then windows is fast.

Yup, and once you find out it is svchost then Process Explorer can show you (mouse over process) what services that current svchost is using and help find the culprit service or task. It's a great tool along with Autoruns.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
10 Pro x64
CPU
Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard
Asrock x370 Tachi
Memory
64GB(4x16GB) DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti FTW3
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar Essence STX (V4 Bursons), ODAC rev B, NFB-11, O2
Monitor(s) Displays
3xASUS PB278Q/R, Optoma HD142X
Screen Resolution
3x1440p, 1080p
Hard Drives
512GB 850 EVO(OS, Programs)
4TB (Movies)
3TB (Downloads)
3TB (Programs)
1TB HDD (Games)
2x6TB R1 (videos)
PSU
AX760
Case
Fractal Define R5
Cooling
NH-D15S
Keyboard
Massdrop Ctrl with Box Navy's
Mouse
G903, Alioth XXL Mat
Internet Speed
280/40
Antivirus
MBAM, ESET
Browser
Canary 64 Bit
Other Info
I also own a Thinkpad P50 Xeon 4K, X220T, X1C5
Here's a good example one of my computers hasn't got the May updates yet and temp was sitting at 36c for a while now increased
And yes our friend svchost is in operation
svchost ramping up.jpg
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Yeah I don't like how it wont show you what that process is for besides the the user and area its running. I use this one for work daily because it can show me this kind of deep info. It's a lifesaver sometimes and has sped up our whole workflow for troubleshooting.
 

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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
10 Pro x64
CPU
Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard
Asrock x370 Tachi
Memory
64GB(4x16GB) DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti FTW3
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar Essence STX (V4 Bursons), ODAC rev B, NFB-11, O2
Monitor(s) Displays
3xASUS PB278Q/R, Optoma HD142X
Screen Resolution
3x1440p, 1080p
Hard Drives
512GB 850 EVO(OS, Programs)
4TB (Movies)
3TB (Downloads)
3TB (Programs)
1TB HDD (Games)
2x6TB R1 (videos)
PSU
AX760
Case
Fractal Define R5
Cooling
NH-D15S
Keyboard
Massdrop Ctrl with Box Navy's
Mouse
G903, Alioth XXL Mat
Internet Speed
280/40
Antivirus
MBAM, ESET
Browser
Canary 64 Bit
Other Info
I also own a Thinkpad P50 Xeon 4K, X220T, X1C5
Hi,
Yea that is pretty cool
I pretty much know which process windows updates churning calling the home planet :)

On a dual core processor you'd feel this process a lot more than on a quad.. core which this one is
It's jumping from 39c to 46c
So it's just a matter of how long it will take to bring up the updates now :)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
On a good day updates come up with only a short interruption in performance from svchost :)
Now the fun part installing them after making a system image which I already did yesterday ;)
Acer May round.JPG
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Yeah i'm finding my self imaging pretty much every time before doing them now. :( Tis is life.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
10 Pro x64
CPU
Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard
Asrock x370 Tachi
Memory
64GB(4x16GB) DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti FTW3
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar Essence STX (V4 Bursons), ODAC rev B, NFB-11, O2
Monitor(s) Displays
3xASUS PB278Q/R, Optoma HD142X
Screen Resolution
3x1440p, 1080p
Hard Drives
512GB 850 EVO(OS, Programs)
4TB (Movies)
3TB (Downloads)
3TB (Programs)
1TB HDD (Games)
2x6TB R1 (videos)
PSU
AX760
Case
Fractal Define R5
Cooling
NH-D15S
Keyboard
Massdrop Ctrl with Box Navy's
Mouse
G903, Alioth XXL Mat
Internet Speed
280/40
Antivirus
MBAM, ESET
Browser
Canary 64 Bit
Other Info
I also own a Thinkpad P50 Xeon 4K, X220T, X1C5
Yep I'm restoring back now,
On restart got a stuck black screen so I had to shut down with the power button and restart :/

Everything say installed... but it sure is not normal for it to happen like that ctrl+alt+delete... did nothing :(
Back to the drawing board :mad2:
But a prime example of why we need system images now days :thumbsup:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
I hate to break it to you, but everything in this universe gets slower (and older) over time. Second law of thermodynamics, aka entropy. Once you accept this, life can be easier.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway GT5656
OS
Windows 7 x64 SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz
Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Lenovo LED
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Windows on 500 GB spinner; Ubuntu 16 on Sandisk 250GB SSD; Bodhi5 on Samsung 250GB SSD; another old spinner for fooling around.
PSU
Original that came with computer
Keyboard
Logitech wireless
Mouse
Logitech wireless
Antivirus
Microsoft Sec Essentials
Browser
Vivaldi
I find if I keep the junk out of my computers and control Startup and Non Microsoft services my system run as quick as always on Windows 7.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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