Just ordered my copy of Win 7

[Avien]

Too bad windows 7 ultimate has no such deals

 

[ChazzMatt]

Windows 7 Pro

I'm going to pre-order the Pro version for $99 from Amazon -- it's got the XP apps gimmick and seems to hit the sweet spot in features and price between Premium and Utimate

 

[Beginning]

With all this talk about pre-ordering, I'd like to pre-order also. But I'm a bit lost, I bought XP Pro a while back and have it installed. I dual boot XP Pro & Se7en. I have to use a program from XP so I take it I'll have to buy at least a Se7en Pro upgrade, I understand that Se7en Pro Upgrade DVD will do a clean install of Se7en Pro..... My question is will I still be able to use my XP Pro in a dual boot? Or for that matter can I then remove XP from this computer and install it on another computer? Or will that XP be foobared?

 

[ChazzMatt]

With all this talk about pre-ordering, I'd like to pre-order also. But I'm a bit lost, I bought XP Pro a while back and have it installed. I dual boot XP Pro & Se7en. I have to use a program from XP so I take it I'll have to buy at least a Se7en Pro upgrade, I understand that Se7en Pro Upgrade DVD will do a clean install of Se7en Pro..... My question is will I still be able to use my XP Pro in a dual boot? Or for that matter can I then remove XP from this computer and install it on another computer? Or will that XP be foobared?

Here's my understanding, but someone can correct me if I am wrong. If you use the "upgrade" version of Windows 7, then you are legally converting your Windows XP or Vista license (whichever you have) to "Windows 7". That is why you are getting the discount. You are not paying full price because you are not buying a "separate" license -- you are converting your existing license to the new license.

But don't forget about the new "XP Mode" in Pro and Ultimate....

With Pro, you can run XP Mode to run the XP app you need.

XP Mode consists of the Virtual PC-based virtual environment and a fully licensed copy of Windows XP with Service Pack 3 (SP3). It will be made available, for free, to users of Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate editions via a download from the Microsoft web site.

So, while you (probably) cannot legally dual boot your old XP or install in another computer, you would not need to with the Pro XP mode....

If you really need to dual boot XP with Windows 7 -- or need that XP in another computer -- then you need to forgo the "upgrade" license discount and buy a separate FULL license of Windows 7.

Right now, [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002DHGM50/ref=s9_simx_gw_s0_p65_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0ZRXTET37DXHNP9YGRYW&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846"]pre-order upgrade license of Windows 7 Pro is $99 (until July 11).[/ame] [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002DHLVII/ref=s9_simx_gw_s0_p65_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0ZRXTET37DXHNP9YGRYW&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846"]Full Windows 7 Pro license is $300. [/ame]

But look at this!

It would be CHEAPER to buy the pre-order upgrade license of Windows 7 Pro for $99 and then if you REALLY need to run XP separately, to then go buy another copy of XP! You can buy a copy [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-System-Builders-VERSION/dp/B000JTFVME/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1246506712&sr=8-5"]of XP from computer shops or Amazon for like $85![/ame]

It's cheaper to buy the upgrade versions of Windows 7 (Premium or Pro) for your old XP -- and then go buy another copy of XP -- than to buy the FULL versions of Windows 7.

 

[Beginning]

Hmmmm.... So many choices... We'll see.

 

[bobtran]

Win 7 utimate OEM for $189

Beats the Upgrade cost.

Newegg.com - Buy Windows Vista Now and Upgrade to Windows 7 for Free Later

 

[harpua]

Also, my understanding is that anyone could buy an upgrade version and install it on an empty or blank hard drive using the "double install" method (explained in detail elsewhere) without using any previous version of Windows to validate the upgrade. So there actually is no need for anyone to buy the full version, unless you just like to spend money for nothing.

Or if it makes you feel better, you can use Win 7 RC as your previous build to "upgrade" from, simply by following the instructions given by MS on their Engineering Blog on how to upgrade from an RC to the RTM.

Since these install methods are expressly and intentionally provided by MS, I see no problem about using them, but each to their own.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

I have a question. My HP laptop has just been out to get repaired and they re-installed vista. Can i then upgrade for free or cheap?

- Sergio

 

[matt_0978]

the only way u'l get 7 for free is if u bought vista (or a pc with it pre-installed) on or since 26th june, now since u had vista re-installed that says it was already on there in the first place. in this case the answer to ur ? is no.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

It was bought with Vista, but i installed 7 instead. Now its been out to be repaired (New HDD and new disk-drive (ODD)) and they put vista back on it

 

[mlevy]

It was bought with Vista, but i installed 7 instead. Now its been out to be repaired (New HDD and new disk-drive (ODD)) and they put vista back on it

No, the PC needs to have been purchased after June 26, 2009 to qualify for it. Just reinstalling it would not do that for you...

 

[sergiogarcia9]

Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me

- Sergio

 

[ChazzMatt]

It was bought with Vista, but i installed 7 instead. Now its been out to be repaired (New HDD and new disk-drive (ODD)) and they put vista back on it

Did Windows 7 mess it up and it had to be repaired?:huh:


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On a related note,

I had a friend who bought a Sony laptop 2 years ago with Vista RTM on, and she bought an extended warranty. Her hard drive started acting flaky like 2 weeks before the warranty was due to expire. They came to her house, replaced the hard drive -- and put the original factory image back on, which was Vista RTM! Not Vista SP2 or even Vista SP1 -- RTM! Which was what the laptop came with 2 years ago, but still...!

So, she asked me to update it for her and take all the crapware off again.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

No i dont think it was because of 7, i just think the harddrive was pretty s*****. I hope the new one is better. They also installed Vista rtm on it, no sp1 or sp2 just RTM so im in the progress of a massive updating and the story you wrote is almost the same as mine, except my pc is a HP and it was bought in 2008

 

[zay]

With that $50 upgrade disk, does that mean I have to install either vista or something lower than w7 to use it?

 

[grouchpunk08]

With that $50 upgrade disk, does that mean I have to install either vista or something lower than w7 to use it?

There have been rumors you can upgrade the RC to the final, but only time will tell whether MS will let us do that or not when they release.

 

[JNU]

I've also ordered a win 7, but is professional. cuz I like the XP mode thing, in case .... u know. I have a laptop with vista home prem. I'm now afraid my home net working can't communicate well because of two different systems. Any opinion?

 

[grouchpunk08]

I've also ordered a win 7, but is professional. cuz I like the XP mode thing, in case .... u know. I have a laptop with vista home prem. I'm now afraid my home net working can't communicate well because of two different systems. Any opinion?

Home networking shouldn't be affected, my laptop running Win7 can network just fine alongside the vista running computer downstairs. I can transfer files to it, it can transfer files to my computer, both connect to the internet etc.

 

[JNU]

Thank u very much grouchpunk08, that's I want to know. Otherwise I got to order another 7 for my laptop.

Another problem I have recently for my vista home premium: I can't install IE8 and I try to install vista sp2 also failed. Every time get the message saying cannot configure correctly, revert to prior system( I don't remember the exact word, sorry). any way I've tried a lot time and failed. I don't know why. My computer is AMD athlon(tm) 64x2 dual core 5600 2.8g, 500g HD, 3g RAM. I know this is win 7 place, but this problem bothered me a lot. Any one can help me? Thanks.

 

[grouchpunk08]

Thank u very much grouchpunk08, that's I want to know. Otherwise I got to order another 7 for my laptop.

Another problem I have recently for my vista home premium: I can't install IE8 and I try to install vista sp2 also failed. Every time get the message saying cannot configure correctly, revert to prior system( I don't remember the exact word, sorry). any way I've tried a lot time and failed. I don't know why. My computer is AMD athlon(tm) 64x2 dual core 5600 2.8g, 500g HD, 3g RAM. I know this is win 7 place, but this problem bothered me a lot. Any one can help me? Thanks.

Are you running 64bit vista? and If so, did you make sure you downloaded the 64bit service pack? and if 32 did you get the 32bit service pack? Not exactly sure about the IE8 thing, it came as an update for my vista, but I use firefox anyway. Try disabling UAC and you antivirus when you try to install those two things. Also running as admin wouldn't hurt.