Laptop Sleep Problem

Grieverheart

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Hi, I have configured my laptop so that it goes to sleep when closing the lid (inspired by Mac). I have encountered a problem though...after leaving the laptop in sleep mode but plugged off, it turns completely off after some time. After turning it on again, the battery seems fine. I have not yet checked how much time it takes for it to turn completely off. Also, I don't think this could be some OS setting that causes it, right?
 

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ASUS K70IO
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 120M GT
It is - if you go into the Power options, and edit your current power plan, in the "Sleep" section there is an item for "hibernate after:" and a timer. The machine is likely hibernating after that timeout has expired after putting the machine to sleep, and this is normal. You can disable this if you expect to resume from sleep before your battery would expire whilst sleeping (which I will admit, on a good battery, should be a very long time).
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64
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Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.5GHz
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Asus Maximus Hero VII
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32GB DDR3
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Grieverheart,
Welcome to SF. I have had too many friends cook their lappy by using this sleep feature. I would suggest against it to spare the laptops mobo and drive. This very feature has cooked two laptops a HP and a Toshiba. It seems convenient right up to the point you realize the problems it's caused are irreversible. I hope this doesn't happen to you !
 

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A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
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i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
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MSI P67A-GD80 b3
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Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
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You may be right, I had hibernate activated after 6 hours on battery only. But how does this work? I though that when the computer goes to sleep, only ram is stored and I guessed no such functions would be activated.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS K70IO
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 120M GT
If you're hibernating, that would mean you have hybrid sleep enabled too, likely. Making that assumption, here's how it works in a nutshell. When you put the machine to sleep, it's doing both sleep and hibernate operations - the information in RAM is written to disk, and the machine goes into a low-power state (very low power). However, certain system timers still fire (scheduled tasks, power events, etc), and thus when the hibernation timeout passes, the machine simply hibernates (turns off). Since the memory is already on disk, it can just shut off at that point without having to go through most of the laborious process of writing memory to disk.
 

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Custom
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
Asus Maximus Hero VII
Memory
32GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX970
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
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1x Samsung 250GB SSD
4x WD RE 2TB (RAIDZ)
PSU
Corsair AX760i
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
linnemeyerhere I have an Asus laptop and have rarely shut it down in 1.5-2y now and have had no problems at all.

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cluberti:

So, is the instruction written in the memory and thus is the system reading the memory frequently? To my knowledge, interrupts are written to memory and when read are executed, but my knowledge doesn't go any deeper, so maybe I'm missing something.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS K70IO
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 120M GT
Excellent, and I only hope yours continues to work that way. Both friends routinely placed theirs into sleep modes and when one broke down the service center said it was a common problem with laptops not waking from sleep mode. I on the other hand don't use mine in that manner you're describing and keep all my computers out of sleep mode. But that's just me, like I mentioned I hope your lappy gives you a long normal life.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
So, is the instruction written in the memory and thus is the system reading the memory frequently? To my knowledge, interrupts are written to memory and when read are executed, but my knowledge doesn't go any deeper, so maybe I'm missing something.
Program data in memory and CPU state are written to memory when a computer sleeps when hybrid sleep is enabled. I'm not sure what you mean by reading memory frequently though - I think perhaps you're joining your knowledge on multiple subjects.

As to interrupts, those are not written anywhere - they're caused by device drivers or the CPU/BIOS, and as such those would happen when they're encountered. They're not specifically saved anywhere unless they're part of the CPU state (and technically, a pending interrupt would be serviced before the machine went to sleep in most cases).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
Asus Maximus Hero VII
Memory
32GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX970
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 250GB SSD
4x WD RE 2TB (RAIDZ)
PSU
Corsair AX760i
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
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