Solved Libraries & Data Management

cgraham

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Hi folks, I just discovered this great forum, and hope to meet some of you.
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I also hope to get answers to some questions bugging me.

I started out with DOS when it first emerged, which I thought I understood, and have since suffered, dragging my feet and screaming through most of the reiterations of Windows, finally being forced from XP to 7.

I don't understand the concept of Libraries.
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(I assume libraries are a User Account thing).

I want to organize my data MY way as I always have, NOT the MS way. So I have a folder tree on C:\ with the root as \DATA\ and its branches organized into data types or projects, topics, subtopics, etc. Using this highly organized system I can just drag DATA to another disk for backup (except I don't capture POPmail, address lists and bookmarks as they are in OS user directories [annoying] - I am the only user). (I have XP computers with a 2nd disk dedicated to DATA and may go that route with 7 eventually).

I realize this system is not especially efficient for backups, but I have plenty of space, and I can directly access backed up files, which is often useful to me, plus I need no special software. I had a XP home network with a raid 1 array where files from all computers were synched and also copied to a third disk at intervals; I hope to rebuild the network in Win7 if I can find Win7 drivers for my BlackArmor raid array.

Currently, if I save a file and forget to specify a destination, and the program does not let me set a default, stuff ends up lost in libraries. Before libraries, that did not happen. I read a tutorial here about removing libraries from Explorer, but I don't know if that really gets rid of the problem.

And the Explorer navigation pane is cluttered up with libraries so I have to scroll down to find OS and C:\ or other drives, and navigate to C:\DATA (why can't I add shortcuts - drives and my folders are the only places I want to go?) :cry:

One related question: how do I see if my primary HD is divided into (hidden) partitions? I suspect there are one or two hiding. What is the Win7 tool to manipulate them?

I need a good reference book on Win7 that is not an ABSOLUTE beginner's thing: suggestions?

I would really appreciate suggestions on data management: am I right in thinking libraries are an unnecessary complication?

Many thanks, Charlie

"Seeking Knowledge, Hoping for Wisdom."
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K401j Series (Laptop); Dell Inspiron 580
OS
Win 7 Home Prof 64bit
CPU
Pentium Dual-Core T4500 2.3GHz; Intel Core i3
Memory
4GIG; 4GIG
Monitor(s) Displays
Integral; Acer H233H
The primary Windows tool to examine partitions is Disk Management. Type that name into the search box and you should be able to examine your partitions.

The tutorial you refer to can get rid of libraries from the Explorer tree, but I'm not sure if it will remove it from your "save as" dialogs. There might be something else to do that?

Other tutorials can get rid of "homegroup" and "network" from the explorer tree.

I also use my own folder structure on a D drive and do not use libraries either. I find them to be redundant and a clutter. I think they are mostly useful to people who are either highly disorganized or who have many drives with multiple copies of the same file. Some people swear by them, but they don't add anything useful to many user scenarios.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Thank you, ignatzatsonic.

Unfortunately Disk management does not show up in my Explorer search of my Asus laptop.Device Manager>HD>Properties>Volumes contains no entries either.

Yet the HD is divided into 2 volumes, C: and D: as shown b
y Win. Explorer. I have no idea how to change the size of these volumes (partitions?) I know it is one physical disk, because both volumes have the same hardware serial #.

Charlie
 
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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K401j Series (Laptop); Dell Inspiron 580
OS
Win 7 Home Prof 64bit
CPU
Pentium Dual-Core T4500 2.3GHz; Intel Core i3
Memory
4GIG; 4GIG
Monitor(s) Displays
Integral; Acer H233H
Don't look for it in Explorer. Type it in the start button search box.

Or go here: control panel/administrative tools/computer managment/disk management (on the left side).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Libraries let you do what it is you are wanting to do. Libraries take multiple locations and put them into a single view. That is all they do. You can put your files where ever you please. Libraries do not stop you from doing that, encourages you do so.

Again, Libraries are only a view of multiple locations combined into one.
 

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Alienware Aurora ALX R4
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Windows 10 Pro (x64)
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Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
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Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
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Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
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Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
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Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
Don't look for it in Explorer. Type it in the start button search box.

Or go here: control panel/administrative tools/computer managment/disk management (on the left side).


Ah, this shows an empty 16 gig primary partition (what is THAT for), the 75 GB OS (C:) partition and D: (200 Gig), (added in an edit to my previous post).

The 2nd method of viewing partitions does not work: no admin tools link - (I don't have admin rights?).
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K401j Series (Laptop); Dell Inspiron 580
OS
Win 7 Home Prof 64bit
CPU
Pentium Dual-Core T4500 2.3GHz; Intel Core i3
Memory
4GIG; 4GIG
Monitor(s) Displays
Integral; Acer H233H
When you go to control panel, be sure to choose "view by category" at the upper right. That should give you more choices.

The 16 gig partition is almost certainly NOT empty and is likely a "recovery partition" from which you should make "recovery disks" (DVDs) so you can restore your PC to factory specs should that need ever arise. You probably did not get Windows disks when you bought it?

The tool needed to change partition sizes depends on exactly what you want to do. Disk Management may suffice, or you may need another tool such as Partition Wizard---depending on what you want.

Generally, if you have a typical situation, you CANNOT use Disk Management to make a partition larger IF there is another partition to the immediate right as viewed in Disk Management. In such a case, you would need Partition Wizard (a free download third party app).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
"View by category" is already selected in Control Panel. Guess I'll just have to remember the other method.

I did take the opportunity to make a system repair disc and a system backup (Drive C).

I know of no way of restoring factory settings, but I can think of no other purpose for such a large space in the 16 gig partition. I can ask Asus.


***> Many thanks for the help to you both!!! :=) <***
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K401j Series (Laptop); Dell Inspiron 580
OS
Win 7 Home Prof 64bit
CPU
Pentium Dual-Core T4500 2.3GHz; Intel Core i3
Memory
4GIG; 4GIG
Monitor(s) Displays
Integral; Acer H233H
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