Malware Cleaner -- Misleading (false) application

jimbo45

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Hi guys
One of my pet hates are those programs that you can download from the Net (such as Scan for Drivers / Registry cleaners) etc etc as even if they don't contain viruses etc are nothing more than "Sneakware". What happens is that the system does the initial scan and the poinst you to a "paid for" or "upgrade" site to actually perform the upgrade / registry cleansing stuff etc.

I've been looking at a collegues computer (bored out of my mind at the moment :mad:) and he'd been running one of these horrible little programs called Malware Cleaner).

This is a NASTY cheat -- it reports all sorts of malware / spyware that actually DOESN'T exist on his machine - I tested this with a 100% clean install of the W7 BETA 7000 which came from the Microsoft site, having first FULL formatted the disk, wrote Binary zeros on every sector and re-installed the brand new MBR. He'd have probably gone out and bought an expensive "Malware" cleaner package.

So

1) DO NOT USE ANY OF THESE ONLINE PROGRAMS THAT DETECT DRIVERS/ CLEAN REGISTRIES etc etc whilst you are actually ONLINE.

2) DON'T BUY ANYTHING RECOMMENDED BY THESE SITES.

Now I'm not particularly keen on AV software in any case but if you use it DO know what you are doing and always check on "False Positives" before installing / uninstalling anything.

So far the security in W7 seems to be holding up but if you let stuff execute via a Browser then "all bets are off".

Cheers
Jimbo
 

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Agreed, it's 1 of my pet hates too
 

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These 'fake' programs are Trojan Horses that open random ports and allow a remote user to execute commands on the affected system. Some are very difficult to clean ... those that drop a RootKit and steal critical information (identity theft), for instance.

Recommendations are a wipe and clean install, change all passwords.
 

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Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's
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Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
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INTEL/D975XBX2
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4 GB
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ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
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Samsung SyncMaster 914v
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Rocketfish 700 W
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G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
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Avira Internet Security
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IE 11
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ATI HDMI Audio
I see crap like that everyday............

I am amazed at how stupid some people can be............

Get a random pop up that says they have problems with their PC.

"Oh, I must click on that and fix my PC"

Install it, scan................

"Oh my, I have over 200+ problems with my PC but this nice little app says that for $49.95, I can download another one of their apps to fix it. Where's my credit card..........."

Next day they are in my shop confused as to why there PC is running so slooooooowwww.

Call your credit Card company ASAP RETARD!!!!!!!!!!

Since last Friday, we have had over a dozen scenarios like this...........

Job security I guess but it just drives me nuts at how stupid some can be......
 

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ECS (Yeah, I was broke)
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    Dell XPS
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    Chrome
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    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
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Malwarebytes has saved a few client computers Ive worked with, but deffinitely not "Malware Cleaner" :P
 
Problem is tho, that they are Extremely Effective at catching the unwary and uninitiated users who don't know any better, and they make literally millions of $$$ doing so. So from a criminal business model type of thing, it's a pretty easy money maker.

I've always firmly believed that computers should come with a detailed "Instructions" disk on the basics of computer know how, but the problem there is that most OEM;s bundled so much of this crud on their systems that it would be a lesson in futility right from the get go. They're better lately but they still come with unwanted cr@p and Adware, but back to the instructions thing, at least it could forewarn some people about these nefarious popup type things.

I remember when my nieces first started using Windows and every month I had to go over there and basically reformat the thing due to the excessive adware and other stuff they d'loaded. Anything that had a cutesy looking popup or said they were "Infected, you need so-N-so to clean this", they clicked on em not knowing any better (even AFTER I told them not too).

Some people just don't "think", they just react and that's who these things are aimed at, and they do well at it unfortunately.
 

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Asus Commando
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4 G's Crucial Ballistix Tracer
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BFG Nvidia 8800 GTS 340
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Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum FATAL1TY
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2-22" HP W2207 LCD
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1920 x 1080
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3 x 500G WD Caviar SATA II
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Enermax Noise Taker II 600W
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NZXT Lexa Classic (dual doored & windowed)
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Zalman 9700 CPU cooler - 4 x 120mm, 1 x 90mm fans
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Logitech MX 5500
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Logitech MX Revolution
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Blazing...
I've always firmly believed that computers should come with a detailed "Instructions" disk on the basics of computer know how
Why read an instructions manual? LOL!
Most people (when joing an anti-malware forum because of an infection), won't even read the important 'sticky posts'. The same has to be said about road signs when driving a car ... "caution" is thrown to the wind and the driver will do what they want, until caught. Now it's time to cry and seek free help. Let 'em off easy and they'll do it again :(
 

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Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's
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Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
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Motherboard
INTEL/D975XBX2
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 914v
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
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2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected
PSU
Rocketfish 700 W
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G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
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DSL
Antivirus
Avira Internet Security
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
ATI HDMI Audio
How true Jacee...how true.
 

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Personal Build
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Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
Motherboard
Asus Commando
Memory
4 G's Crucial Ballistix Tracer
Graphics Card(s)
BFG Nvidia 8800 GTS 340
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum FATAL1TY
Monitor(s) Displays
2-22" HP W2207 LCD
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
3 x 500G WD Caviar SATA II
PSU
Enermax Noise Taker II 600W
Case
NZXT Lexa Classic (dual doored & windowed)
Cooling
Zalman 9700 CPU cooler - 4 x 120mm, 1 x 90mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech MX 5500
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution
Internet Speed
Blazing...
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