Map network drive with netbeui

[ivan69]

I installed netbeui but when I try to map a network drive it gives me an error code 0x80070035.
Any ideas?

 

[Barman58]

Hi Ivan,

NETBUI, as a protocol, was discontinued with windows XP, you should not need to install this to map drives as this is now handled by TCP/IP

As I understand things even if you are mapping to windows 98 machines this should work out of the box (assuming TCP/IP is installed on the older system

 

[ivan69]

Hi Ivan,

NETBUI, as a protocol, was discontinued with windows XP, you should not need to install this to map drives as this is now handled by TCP/IP

As I understand things even if you are mapping to windows 98 machines this should work out of the box (assuming TCP/IP is installed on the older system

Hi Barman

Yes I know,
but I have an old working center machine (a cnc) that only supports Netbeui!

 

[Barman58]

Ok I understand Now

You should be able to enable Netbios over TCP/IP in windows 7 which may (or may not) allow you access to the old system.

To check the status open the adaptor properties (network and sharing centre) and open the TCP/IPv4 entry the netbios settings are under the advanced button on the WINS tab

Both devices must be in the same workgroup and network segment

Also make sure that the correct ports are open in any firewalls in use - Should just be the following

137 TCP netbios-ns nbname NETBIOS Name Service
137 UDP netbios-ns nbname NETBIOS Name Service
138 UDP netbios-dgm nbdatagram NETBIOS Datagram Service
139 TCP netbios-ssn nbsession NETBIOS Session Service

hopefully this should work

 

[ivan69]

Ok I understand Now

You should be able to enable Netbios over TCP/IP in windows 7 which may (or may not) allow you access to the old system.

To check the status open the adaptor properties (network and sharing centre) and open the TCP/IPv4 entry the netbios settings are under the advanced button on the WINS tab

Both devices must be in the same workgroup and network segment

Also make sure that the correct ports are open in any firewalls in use - Should just be the following

137 TCP netbios-ns nbname NETBIOS Name Service
137 UDP netbios-ns nbname NETBIOS Name Service
138 UDP netbios-dgm nbdatagram NETBIOS Datagram Service
139 TCP netbios-ssn nbsession NETBIOS Session Service

hopefully this should work

Thank you for your answer.

It doesn't work.
With Vista it works but not with windows 7.
I found this post from 'torrentg' that seems to have the same problem:

"I found the problems. It is that I always disable as many services as possible. So I thought that Windows 7 works exactly as Vista and was wrong. I needed to enable many services such as Remote Access Auto Connection Manager, Remote Access Connection Manager, Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service, Routing And Remote Access and maybe one or two others. Most of these are disabled in my Vista oses and things work well....obviosuly not the case with 7."

I don't know what does it mean when he say 'one or two others'.

Do you have any idea?

 

[Barman58]

Unfortunately TorrentG is no longer a member here - but as that thread was left incomplete It does not really help.

A quick check did find a dialogue on a Microsoft help site that basically confirmed my suggestion but again was not completed as solved.

Unless you have actually disabled any services yourself then that should not be an issue.

If you wish to follow up the services route - which may be an answer by enabling a service that is off by default, I would take a look at black viopers site that has a comprehensive list of what services do and has been updated to cover win7 - you may find something that is enabled by default in vista but not win7

Black Viper's Web Site

what response did you get from the system when you enabled Nebios over TCP/IP? also you could try completely disabling any firewalls just in case the re is a port that I missed

 

[RedBirdDad]

Netbeui and netbios over TCP/IP aren't compatible.

IBM used Netbeui as a LAN protocol a long time ago, but it's not routable. Microsoft came out with netbios which is basically the same thing and like netbeui, netbios wasn't routable either. Later as TCP/IP became popular, Microsoft came out with Netbios over TCP/IP in order for netbios services to be run over IP networks.

If you really need netbeui, you can still run it under Windows XP. Microsoft has some docs on it.

 

[ivan69]

Unfortunately TorrentG is no longer a member here - but as that thread was left incomplete It does not really help.

A quick check did find a dialogue on a Microsoft help site that basically confirmed my suggestion but again was not completed as solved.

Unless you have actually disabled any services yourself then that should not be an issue.

If you wish to follow up the services route - which may be an answer by enabling a service that is off by default, I would take a look at black viopers site that has a comprehensive list of what services do and has been updated to cover win7 - you may find something that is enabled by default in vista but not win7

Black Viper's Web Site

what response did you get from the system when you enabled Nebios over TCP/IP? also you could try completely disabling any firewalls just in case the re is a port that I missed

Hi Barman,
I haven't disabled any services and I have disabled my firewall but it doesn't work.
With xp and vista it works even if I disable Netbios over tcp/ip.

At the moment the only solution with win7 is xp mode.

Best regards
Ivan

 

[Barman58]

Hi Ivan,

The Network stack was overhauled with Vista and further with win7 and I would appear that support has now been removed.

It does look as though the XPMode is the only answer, unless Microsoft issue a fix for this. To be honest though there are not that many systems, (relatively), that require NetBui these days so this is unlikely, and they have provided XPMode, as an option.

 

[Maxtheknife]

NetBeui on W7

Hello,

We have the same problem as Ivan69.
Beside other never machines with TCP/IP, we have an old but well working cnc woood working machine that only supports Netbeui!

We had to change the PC that sends program to the CNC machine and we have the problem described here because we choose Windows 7 with no NetBeui protocol.

We installed the NetBeui protocol on W7 but it works only half way although we tried a lot of things! We can see the files from the machine on the PC share but can't upload the files in the machine. NetBeui communicates but we can't upload files

The old PC had Windows 2000.

Did anybody find a solution besides the XP Mode in W7 that I didn't tried yet?

Stupid question: would it be possible with a black box to "change" the NetBeui protocol to TCP/IP


Many thank for all inputs!


Max

 

[GranadaDude]

Production machines...

This topic is already 'old'...

I still remember switching from Win2K to WinXP back in 2008 (jeez.. also already 6 years ago.. :sarc: )

Then it was fairly easy. After some searching, Windows XP did not support Netbeui protocol anymore, but it still was there as an additional download feature.

Now, there's a question whether or not to install new clients. WIN7 64 bit...

Now, I know the IT is evolving, but in this case, there's an ultrasonic detection system, quite expensive.

This machine STILL has a Windows 98 machine on it running software and thus, using NetBeui protocol to present the raw data to an application written to read and thread this raw data, ending up as record both in excel and an access database.

Works just fine.

However, if I get the question, I've read some threads and cannot give the right answer. Only that it's NOT possible in any way to update the ultrasonic control machine. This requires an additional cost which you really don't want to know. it's way too high and will never be granted approval.

This is a production unit which checks material for any flaws of holes based on ultra sonic sensors and gives back quality figures, used to get the right quality certificates that need to be provided when shipping the basic product itself.

So, It's or try and error based or stay with the way of working with 32 bit WinXP, installed on a new machine.

Could I try to emulate using virtual XP machine ? Possible, I don't have a clue. But I'm pretty sure this will be one of the questions that will rise. How to solve this one ? Knowing I HAVE to stick to NetBEUI protocol.

if I find a way that I can run Netbeui on a Win7 Pro x64 client, I'm going to be very glad

Any suggestions ?

please advise, all critics and or suggestions are more than welcome !

Thanks,

Tom

 

[MrRogue]

Hello,

I'm chiming in here because I also have two OLD cnc mills and I need to connect my newER Laptop to the network to be able to send G-code to the machines.

LapTop: Windows 7
The old Network Workstation has Windows 2000 on the network.
I use a 5 port linksys switch box for the network.

I HEAR that I need "NETBUEII" so as I've been told to go find it and install it on the Win7 Laptop.


Anyone have success they will share on this subject ?


Thanks,
Ronald