/!\ MS caught lying about their Convenience Rollup? (included updates)

[7point5]

so we're studying virtual machines & I decided to go a bit beyond the curriculum & did some tests of my own on a win7 VM ^^

simple question really: in the catalog article on kb3125574 all the allegedly included updates are listed

so knowing MS I decided to test this
turns out my hunch may have been justified!

for instance KB2574819 & KB2639308 are in the list of updates allegedly included in the rollup

so once again on a 7 x64 virtual machine I installed the service stack update & the rollup

then I tried installing KB2574819 & KB2639308 - and it worked! windows asks if I want to install the updates (instead of saying "update already installed" or "update not applicable" as would be expected) even though they're suppose to be already in the rollup!

I tested other updates (which MS says are in the rollup) and it appears MS may have lied about those too since I can install them even after the rollup


the only explanation's that those updates were NOT included in the rollup to begin with right? :sarc:


so question is, why tf would they lie about included updates in a rollup? a possible reason is that instead of those useful updates they snuck in something far less useful like telemetry updates or something

 

[mrjimphelps]

the only explanation's that those updates were NOT included in the rollup to begin with right?

Maybe they were superceded by newer versions of the updates, and Microsoft hasn't yet gotten around to removing the old versions from the rollup?

 

[7point5]

Maybe they were superceded by newer versions of the updates, and Microsoft hasn't yet gotten around to removing the old versions from the rollup?

but if they were new versions they'd have different KB codes

here the code is the same for instance MS says KB2574819 is in the rollup, so I install rollup, then try the update with same code KB2574819 & the install's still allowed!??

 

[Pete4]

But, why would anybody care about some KB being installed second time, I can't see any harm in it, except maybe if you needed to rollback, you would have to rollback twice I imagine. Also I would suspect it is more of a bug than lying. What I would worry more about is the telemetry being misrepresented as something else and bundled with other, actually important updates.

 

[7point5]

But, why would anybody care about some KB being installed second time

that's the whole point it's NOT being installed a second time

if you can install an update after the rollup, it can ONLY mean that this update's NOT included in the rollup right?




and if it already is - how to check MS is telling the truth? trying a 2nd install isn't a good test if you say it's possible to install a 2nd time - so how's it possible to verify if an update really is included in another previous update?