Solved MS Security Essentials (MSE) definition updates?

DavidE

____________
Guru
Gold Member
VIP
Local time
7:09 PM
Messages
6,330
Location
NC, USA
How often does Windows Update check for and install MS Security Essentials (MSE) definition updates?

I noticed that for the last few weeks MS is updating MSE definations a lot more.
I use to get 2-3 updates per day and now i'm getting 5-10 updates per day.
I use a scheduled task to check for and install updates.
I'm just wondering how often these definitions get updated now for someone using "normal" WU for these.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I don't know that their is a exact time or amount of updates available. Security updates come as fast and often as Microsoft creates them for MSE is my understanding. I do mine manual several times a day.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Windows update would only check for updates every 24 hours or so.As far as I was aware they were releasing 3-4 every 24 hours so even with a scheduled task performing the update I can't see there been 10 a day but maybe they have changed it. How often is your scheduled task checking for them. Can you post a screenshot of your installed update list.

Danny
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
acer aspire 5935g
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
CPU
intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz
Motherboard
intel gm45/gm47 revision 07
Memory
3 gb ddr3
Graphics Card(s)
ati radeon hd4570/512mb
Monitor(s) Displays
lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
500gig external hdd
Mouse
Optical
Internet Speed
30Mbps Down/30Mbps Up
The thread reminded I should check for updates, however, whilst opening the MSE program I noticed that the updates were checked and updated automatically according to MSE.

The version numbers for my security definitions at the moment are: 1.135.830.0

These the latest version numbers for the MSE security definitions? I haven't recevied any notifications for updates for a long time.

Note: Have just checked for a updates a minute ago.

Thanks,

Harry
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
I have got 15 MSE KB's today for MSE.Capture.PNG
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
acer aspire 5935g
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
CPU
intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz
Motherboard
intel gm45/gm47 revision 07
Memory
3 gb ddr3
Graphics Card(s)
ati radeon hd4570/512mb
Monitor(s) Displays
lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
500gig external hdd
Mouse
Optical
Internet Speed
30Mbps Down/30Mbps Up
Windows update would only check for updates every 24 hours or so.As far as I was aware they were releasing 3-4 every 24 hours so even with a scheduled task performing the update I can't see there been 10 a day but maybe they have changed it. How often is your scheduled task checking for them. Can you post a screenshot of your installed update list.

Danny

I use to have the schedule set to check for updates every 4 hours.
When i noticed more updates daily i changed it check for updates every 1 hour.
That's how it is set now.

Here is my most recent Update History.

MSESP01.PNG
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I am sure when it was first released it was 3-4 a day. I have a schedule to check on log-on so I get at most (Depending on how many reboots I make) 2-3 a day, but whats odd is those using windows update only
will still only be getting 1 a day.
I'm no security expert but I would presume Microsoft still believe 1 update a day is enough to be protected or else they would have added their own scheduler to MSE rather than using windows update, but I for 1 will alter my schedule to a tad more often:)

Danny
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
acer aspire 5935g
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
CPU
intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz
Motherboard
intel gm45/gm47 revision 07
Memory
3 gb ddr3
Graphics Card(s)
ati radeon hd4570/512mb
Monitor(s) Displays
lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
500gig external hdd
Mouse
Optical
Internet Speed
30Mbps Down/30Mbps Up
I have got 15 MSE KB's today for MSE.View attachment 230896

Thats interesting how are you checking for them Layback. Is it manually.

Danny
Yes I do it manually. Two reason.
1. I'm never very far behind with security updates. Hundreds if not thousands of bad things are created every day.
2. Up dates are small and it doesn't take long to do it. I seldom have install problem. Normally a minute or two.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
but whats odd is those using windows update only
will still only be getting 1 a day.
Danny

Thanks Danny, that answers the question i wasn't sure of.

I've installed MSE for some people, but did not set up a scheduled task for updates.
I may re-visit some of those machines and add a task, just to keep definitions "more current".
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
but whats odd is those using windows update only
will still only be getting 1 a day.
Danny

Thanks Danny, that answers the question i wasn't sure of.

I've installed MSE for some people, but did not set up a scheduled task for updates.
I may re-visit some of those machines and add a task, just to keep definitions "more current".

I would like to know what others are doing though. In my opinion 1 update out of 10+ a day doesn't seem enough but I suppose it depends on what the updates contain. Microsoft clearly believe 1 is enough though
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
acer aspire 5935g
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
CPU
intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz
Motherboard
intel gm45/gm47 revision 07
Memory
3 gb ddr3
Graphics Card(s)
ati radeon hd4570/512mb
Monitor(s) Displays
lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
500gig external hdd
Mouse
Optical
Internet Speed
30Mbps Down/30Mbps Up
Yea, I'm curious too why so many more updates.
One thing i always thought interesting is Malwarebytes updates definitions 4-9 times per day.
The last time I used Windows Defender (Malware protection) the definition updates were 1 every few days.

Maybe MS has become more pro-active updating Anti-Malware definitions?
Windows Defender is essentially the Anti-Malware component of MSE (AV/AM), right?

Guess it would be interesting to know if someone that uses Windows Defender sees a lot more definition updates now...
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I have not set up any scheduled task to get updates--I just take whatever the default is.

I never go to Windows Update to get definitions and never manually update.

I'm currently on 1.135.840, timed at 3:07 PM Sept 9.

I've had 7 updates in September.

I had 22 in August and 25 in July.

Never a day with 2 updates; and an occasional day with no updates.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Back
Top