Solved Multi-Machine, Multi-License?

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I would like to purchase a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium (not an upgrade) and install it on two different machines. Is this possible or do I need to buy 2 full copies of Windows 7? Can I just buy the one copy and get like a multi-license? Amazon sells Windows 7 Family Pacs for but it's an upgrade version. I couldn't find any info on Microsoft's web site regarding multiple licensing at all. Thanks in advance.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400
OS
Windows 7 X64 Professional
CPU
Intel® Pentium D Dual Core 3.6GHZ
Motherboard
DELL Dimension 9150 MotherBoard DXP051 XPS400 FJ030
Memory
4GB DDR2 PC2-5300
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
Sound Card
ASUS XONAR DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Xonar DG
Monitor(s) Displays
2 X 23" Apple Cinema Display
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200p
Hard Drives
250GB Intel® 510 Series SSD SATA 6G (w/TRIM) [500MB/s Reads]
1.0TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA 6G 7200rpm 64MB Cache
PSU
375 Watt Dell
Case
Dell XPS 400 BTX Case
Cooling
Dell XPS 400 Air Cooling
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M705 Marathon
Internet Speed
+/- 9929 Kbps
Other Info
This machine was given to me when my dad bought a new computer. I keep throwing upgrades at it and it keeps on ticking. Think I've done everything to it that can be done outside a PSU upgrade so I can run an even BETTER GPU.
Bug67, I also have not found any multi copies of windows 7 full versions for sale. Outside of buying OEM copies which are a lot cheaper than the full box versions.
Beware of anyone telling you that the copies they sell are for multi installs which could be a technet or msdn copies which are not for resale.

Rich
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7
Motherboard
Toshiba Qosmio
Memory
16 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
Monitor(s) Displays
17.7" laptop
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D
Internet Speed
50/25 FIOS
Antivirus
Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines)
Browser
IE and FF
Other Info
I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great.
I would like to purchase a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium (not an upgrade) and install it on two different machines. Is this possible or do I need to buy 2 full copies of Windows 7? Can I just buy the one copy and get like a multi-license? Amazon sells Windows 7 Family Pacs for but it's an upgrade version. I couldn't find any info on Microsoft's web site regarding multiple licensing at all. Thanks in advance.

You will need two full Retail licenses - which come with two full disk packs :)
You couldm however, use the MS Store and purchase a download copy for one, and a full hard copy for the other - this gives you the security of knowing the at the Keys are genuine, and having a known-good disk for installation, while at the same time allowing guranteed download of the current-release OS for life (for that edition and version), so that you can download a copy with SP2 embedded when it comes out eventually, and not have to worry about uninstalling stuff to be able to do a repair install if required.

Do NOT be tempted to save money by purchasing off eBay - most software sales there are of counterfeits (also craigslist, and Amazon MarketPlace).

Do NOT be tempted to purchase OEM licenses - you would be breaking the license terms by installing them for your own use, and would not be eligible for free MS support.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7
Motherboard
Toshiba Qosmio
Memory
16 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
Monitor(s) Displays
17.7" laptop
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D
Internet Speed
50/25 FIOS
Antivirus
Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines)
Browser
IE and FF
Other Info
I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great.
No they wouldn't - unless they were counterfeits.
It's in MS's interest to sell copies of WIndows to MC - it's in MC's interests to sell copies to clients. Once that has happened, then it is up to MC's clients whether they stick to the licensing terms or not. It is not MC's problem, it's their client's problem.
MS could in theory sue any (and every) end-user who has purchased an OEM SB disk for their own computer from MC. They could NOT sue MC, because MC has done nothing against the terms of their license.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
OK, if MS could in theory sue any (and every) end-user who has purchased an OEM SB disk for their own computer from MC. They could NOT sue MC, because MC has done nothing against the terms of their license.

There does not seem to be any notice on MC' site or on the packages you purchase that ms could sue you if you bought this sofware and were not a real oem. Even though it is offered to anyone who walks in the door.

rich
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7
Motherboard
Toshiba Qosmio
Memory
16 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
Monitor(s) Displays
17.7" laptop
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D
Internet Speed
50/25 FIOS
Antivirus
Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines)
Browser
IE and FF
Other Info
I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great.
There does not seem to be any notice on MC' site or on the packages you purchase that ms could sue you if you bought this sofware and were not a real oem. Even though it is offered to anyone who walks in the door.

rich

You obviously have problems with literacy :)
look here - Micro Center - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM (PC) MSGFC02050
<quote>
Use of this OEM System Builder Channel software is subject to the terms of the Microsoft OEM System Builder License. This software is intended for pre-installation on a new personal computer for resale. This OEM System Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support for the Windows software and cannot be transferred to another computer once it is installed.
</quote>
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
"...You couldm however, use the MS Store and purchase a download copy for one, and a full hard copy for the other - this gives you the security of knowing the at the Keys are genuine, and having a known-good disk for installation, while at the same time allowing guranteed download of the current-release OS for life (for that edition and version), so that you can download a copy with SP2 embedded when it comes out eventually, and not have to worry about uninstalling stuff to be able to do a repair install if required..."

This sounds like a plan to me. Wish a full on copy wasn't so spendy but, what are you gonna do? :rolleyes:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400
OS
Windows 7 X64 Professional
CPU
Intel® Pentium D Dual Core 3.6GHZ
Motherboard
DELL Dimension 9150 MotherBoard DXP051 XPS400 FJ030
Memory
4GB DDR2 PC2-5300
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
Sound Card
ASUS XONAR DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Xonar DG
Monitor(s) Displays
2 X 23" Apple Cinema Display
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200p
Hard Drives
250GB Intel® 510 Series SSD SATA 6G (w/TRIM) [500MB/s Reads]
1.0TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA 6G 7200rpm 64MB Cache
PSU
375 Watt Dell
Case
Dell XPS 400 BTX Case
Cooling
Dell XPS 400 Air Cooling
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M705 Marathon
Internet Speed
+/- 9929 Kbps
Other Info
This machine was given to me when my dad bought a new computer. I keep throwing upgrades at it and it keeps on ticking. Think I've done everything to it that can be done outside a PSU upgrade so I can run an even BETTER GPU.
This sounds like a plan to me. Wish a full on copy wasn't so spendy but, what are you gonna do? :rolleyes:

Ghostbusters won't work :)

You can save up to 25% by going to a *reputable* store - which can cut the pain somewhat.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
You obviously have problems with literacy :)

I suppose you even read and pay attention to all the ULA's that you click YES!

What that all means is that you save money by buying oem and support it yourself without help from microsoft.

The tens of thousands of people who build their own computers have for years used the OEM software products without worrying about microsoft sueing them.

And I am a bit literate but most likely not as smart as you.

Rich
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7
Motherboard
Toshiba Qosmio
Memory
16 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
Monitor(s) Displays
17.7" laptop
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D
Internet Speed
50/25 FIOS
Antivirus
Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines)
Browser
IE and FF
Other Info
I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great.

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Technically, it's possible to install the Windows 7 Upgrade to a machine that doesn't have a previous version of Windows...making the Windows 7 family pack the best way to go. Now, this obviously would be against what Microsoft "intends" for you to do, thus its up to you to determine if it's suitable based on what you are doing.
Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media

Your other option is to buy a Technet subscription, which is $199 for the 1st year. This will give you access to downloads and multiple keys for Microsoft software including Windows 7, Vista, XP, as well as Server OS's (2003/2008), Product servers (Exchange/SQL), and finally Office (2007/2010). With Technet software, it's intended that you "use" the software for testing and evaluation purposes. As long as these are your own machines and you aren't running a business or selling off your keys to friends, it will work just fine and dandy. At the end of your first year, you can optionally renew at $149 for another year. if you don't renew, as long as you have the software downloaded and your existing keys written down...you can keep using them. Technically the software does not expire.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
I suppose you even read and pay attention to all the ULA's that you click YES!

When I'm familiar with the company, no - but if I don't know the company at all, or it's a strange kind of license, then you bet I read them - and you should too.

NOT reading the License Terms is how a LOT of what many consider spyware gets installed - and how people lose control over their personal information and sometimes their cash.
It's also how people get trapped into long contracts for things they thought were trials.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
Noel, forgot where you were from.

Rich
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7
Motherboard
Toshiba Qosmio
Memory
16 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
Monitor(s) Displays
17.7" laptop
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D
Internet Speed
50/25 FIOS
Antivirus
Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines)
Browser
IE and FF
Other Info
I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great.
   Warning
Let's keep this friendly shall we.

 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built custom
OS
64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
CPU
Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
Memory
64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
Sound Card
Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
PSU
Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
Case
Thermaltake Core P3
Cooling
Corsair Hydro H115i
Keyboard
Logitech wireless K800
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 4
Internet Speed
2 Gb/s Download and 100 Mb/s Upload
Antivirus
Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
Browser
Google Chrome
Other Info
Logitech Z625 speaker system,
Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
Galaxy S23 Plus phone

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
Bought and downloaded 1 license of Windows Home Premium (full version) to put on my old Compaq Presario notebook last night. Wow! What a breath of fresh air. I had Linux on it before but, with all the, in my opinion, cr*p desktop environments of late, it's refreshing not to have to fight my computer to work how I want. I've only run into a couple of issues, nothing major.

Think I'm going to buy a hard copy license of Windows Professional to go on the other machine I wanted to install on. No hurry though. Thanks for the recommendations and, um, discussions. ;)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400
OS
Windows 7 X64 Professional
CPU
Intel® Pentium D Dual Core 3.6GHZ
Motherboard
DELL Dimension 9150 MotherBoard DXP051 XPS400 FJ030
Memory
4GB DDR2 PC2-5300
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
Sound Card
ASUS XONAR DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Xonar DG
Monitor(s) Displays
2 X 23" Apple Cinema Display
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200p
Hard Drives
250GB Intel® 510 Series SSD SATA 6G (w/TRIM) [500MB/s Reads]
1.0TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA 6G 7200rpm 64MB Cache
PSU
375 Watt Dell
Case
Dell XPS 400 BTX Case
Cooling
Dell XPS 400 Air Cooling
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M705 Marathon
Internet Speed
+/- 9929 Kbps
Other Info
This machine was given to me when my dad bought a new computer. I keep throwing upgrades at it and it keeps on ticking. Think I've done everything to it that can be done outside a PSU upgrade so I can run an even BETTER GPU.
Full retail versions of Win7 are expensive. I alway opt for OEM versions - $80 for Home Premium at Newegg. Only limitation is that the license has to stay with the PC where it was first installed. Else it is all the same.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Thanks for the recommendations and, um, discussions. ;)

Sorry 'bout that!

I do tend to get a little tetchy when people suggest things that are outside the intention of the License terms - for the simple reason that so few people actually read them that many leave themselves open to alls orts of things that they never dreamt were possible.

Seems like you've got yourself sorted, though, which is the main thing.

Good Luck!
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Homebrew PC - "Alpha_Dawg"
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad - Q9550 - 2.83GHz stock - OC'd to 3.6GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
Memory
4GB DDR2 800MHz (PC6400) OCZ Reaper
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GE Force 8800 GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 2333HD
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar Black 750GB - 7200RPM - 32MB cache
WD Caviar Green 1.5TB - 5400RPM - 64MB cache
WD Caviar Green 2.0TB - 5400RPM - 64MB cache
PSU
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750
Case
Gigabyte 3D Aurora
Cooling
Case is Air - 5ea. 120mm fans (mix of Arctic and Xigmatec)
Keyboard
MS Natural Wireless KB
Mouse
MS Wireless Mouse
Internet Speed
50 mbps down/5 mbps up
Other Info
AVerMedia - AVerTVHD G2 Dual Tuner Card
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