My 7100 - slow as molasses?!?!?

[Colonel Travis]

Got 7100 loaded on the desktop - runs tight and fast, I like it a lot.

Put it on my Dell The laptop - ugh. Takes 2 minutes and 23 seconds from when I turn it on to when it's ready to go. Desktop takes a fraction of that, it's not even close.

My desktop and laptop are roughly the same in specs, except (and I know this is a big exception) the laptop uses a Centrino Duo, desktop has AMD 64 AthlonX2. Otherwise - same memory (3GB), laptop has a faster hard drive but a smaller size. Video card in the laptop is slightly better. Both machines are a couple years old.

Both machines used to run XP, and both loaded XP about the same. 7 loads a lot faster on the desktop, but way slower than XP on my laptop.

Is the CPU the major factor here?

 

[Truckondo]

Maybe a driver issue? 7100 is way faster than 7000 on my current desktop. Even the Windows score moved from a 2.9 to 5.3.

 

[jfar]

Got 7100 loaded on the desktop - runs tight and fast, I like it a lot.

Put it on my Dell The laptop - ugh. Takes 2 minutes and 23 seconds from when I turn it on to when it's ready to go. Desktop takes a fraction of that, it's not even close.

My desktop and laptop are roughly the same in specs, except (and I know this is a big exception) the laptop uses a Centrino Duo, desktop has AMD 64 AthlonX2. Otherwise - same memory (3GB), laptop has a faster hard drive but a smaller size. Video card in the laptop is slightly better. Both machines are a couple years old.

Both machines used to run XP, and both loaded XP about the same. 7 loads a lot faster on the desktop, but way slower than XP on my laptop.

Is the CPU the major factor here?

Hi,Colonel Travis, you are going to have to show your specs ,for both of your PCs ,so that people can see the difference between them ,and try and solve the problem that you are having,and I am sure that once you do that ,you will be a lot happier.

 

[Colonel Travis]

Indeed, jfar. Realized that after I posted, my bad. Basic specs below, can post more. For the heck of it, WEI for the laptop is 2.2. The desktop is actually lower - 2.0. But the desktop processor score is 4.9, compared to 2.2 for the laptop. Desktop low score is because of the graphics section.

Also:

1.) BIOS startup screen comparison:
Desktop - BIOS screen is on for 12 seconds.
Laptop - almost two minutes.
Once Windows starts loading, the time difference between them to the end is minuscule.

2.) After startup is done, the laptop takes about six minutes (I've timed it) to connect to my wireless router. It used to be pretty close to instantaneous with the early 7 builds and XP. Started lagging like this with 7057 or maybe 7068. Didn't get fixed with 7077 or 7100. I've tried connecting manually but it won't let me. Never recognizes the router encryption key. Disable/enable network connection doesn't work. Can't find anything unusual when I log into the router.

Otherwise, no complaints about 7. I've got Photoshop CS4 on both machines and it runs better on the laptop than the desktop. All drivers appear to be updated. Desktop is nothing but all-around goodness.

Thanks for the input.


DUMB SLOW LAPTOP (Dell Latitude D620)
CPU: Intel Core Duo T2300E 1.66GHz
Chipset: Mobile Intel Calistoga-PM i945PM
Memory: 3 GB
DIMM1: 2 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM
DIMM3: 1 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM
BIOS: Phoenix - version A10
Network connection - Intel Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Video: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 110M (64 MB)
Audio: SigmaTel STAC9200
HDD: SATA, 100 GB, 7200 RPM


DESKTOP
CPU: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200
Chipset: ATI Radeon Xpress 200, AMD Hammer
Memory: 3 GB
DIMM1: 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
DIMM2: 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
DIMM3: 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
BIOS: Award (03/03/06)
Video: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 (64 MB)
Audio: Realtek ALC658 - AC '97
HDD: SATA, 250 GB, 7200 RPM

 

[matagyula]

Iam curiously awaiting a solution for your problem, because iam experiencing the same with my MSI laptop :/ The 5 year old desktop i have can boot faster then the one year old lappy with a dual core cpu :O
Actual specs :
- desktop : amd athlon xp 2800+ @ 2083 MHz, 120 GB HDD, 768 MB RAM, Ati x1650 pro 512 MB, W7 installed on a separate partition
- laptop: amd turion 64 x2 max 1900 MHz, 2 gigs of ram, 250 GB HDD, Ati hd2600 512 MB, W7 installed on a virtual partition

 

[jimbo45]

Actual specs :

- desktop : amd athlon xp 2800+ @ 2083 MHz, 120 GB HDD, 768 MB RAM, Ati x1650 pro 512 MB, W7 installed on a separate partition
- laptop: amd turion 64 x2 max 1900 MHz, 2 gigs of ram, 250 GB HDD, Ati hd2600 512 MB, W7 installed on a virtual partition

Whats the HOST OS on your laptop -- If you have W7 on a Virtual Partition (as a VM) ALL sorts of considerations neede to be considered here -- Virtual Machine configuration, Virtual machine BIOS, and loads of other constraints.

Are you talking about booting up the MAIN laptop or the Virtual Windows OS.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[matagyula]

The Host OS is a 32bit Windows XP with SP2, on C partition. I installed W7 using a tutorial on a slovakian IT site, using the command prompt to create and attach the virtual disk ( picture from the tutorial - after the virtual partition was created it showed up like this - but i created a 30 gig one on D partition ). The author of the article said that there should be no performance difference between this kind of install and a normal one, and apart from the long boot time i didn't notice any other slow-downs.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
can't help you on that type of install.

Normally W7 either as a Host or a guest should run fine. Even running a 64 bit version of W7 on Windows XP -- can be done so long as the VT virtualisation in the CPU is turned on either by default or in the BIOS.

I 've run W7 systems as Virtual Machines using programs like VMWARE. I don't know about your type of install.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[bummpr]

Check your Events?

Have you checked the Event Viewer for any obvious/serious problems? Your boot time is extraordinary...almost like a missing driver or connection that can't be made.

 

[jfar]

Hi,Colonel Travis, Download and install a small program called Radarsync,and let it scan your laptop,when it does it thing, show us a picture of what it finds, Please.

 

[Colonel Travis]

jfar - didn't have time on the weekend to check anything out. Up to my eyeballs in projects. But I've since tinkered around with radarsync - cut the startup time by more than half, and the wireless router is picked up instantly.

Surprised how many drivers 7 didn't find. RS detected 16 out of date. I was familiar with a few driver update programs but not that one - much obliged for the suggestion, it did the trick.

 

[jfar]

Excellent ,glad it's fixed,I would love to buy shares in that little program, because it has solved so many problems for different people.

 

[MarkEvans]

I installed the RC version of windows 7 this weekend and did a direct comparision with Vista Business SP1 on my laptop.

Vista took 50 seconds from cold to show the desktop and 1min 50 sec to connect to my wireless network.

Windows 7 on the other hand took 1min 20sec to show the desktop and 2min 15sec to connect to the wireless network.

Considering that vista had a full development environment installed on it and multiple sql server instances I am very suprised that Windows7 is so slow to boot when no other programs are installed. I tried the advice posted on this thread to ensure that all the drivers are up to date but this has not made any difference.

Makes me wonder if Windows 7 uses more smaller files than Vista as this might explain the difference (due to laptop disk drive speeds) in boot up times.

Anyone else experienced this kind of problem?

 

[Jon55]

jfar - didn't have time on the weekend to check anything out. Up to my eyeballs in projects. But I've since tinkered around with radarsync - cut the startup time by more than half, and the wireless router is picked up instantly.

Surprised how many drivers 7 didn't find. RS detected 16 out of date. I was familiar with a few driver update programs but not that one - much obliged for the suggestion, it did the trick.

Interesting. I had never heard of RadarSync before. Is this something that is commonly recommended?

 

[mikey533]

I had the same problem. The network login slow after sleep. It would take 2 to 6 minutes for it to log in. I used radarsync, used it to update the drivers for the wireless adapter, and now the network is ready instantaneously after waking from sleep! Thanks for the tip!