My first solid state.

[sygnus21]

<<And plus,also worries me (i don't trust) my <<old>> system,especially my motherboard ga-x38-ds4.>>
Please view my Specs.
Any idea for that?

As long as your MB can do SATA (yours does) your system specs are fine for an SSD drive. You'll also have no issues under Windows 7, in fact SSD drives are perfect for 7.

You have nothing to worry about

 

[panais]

<<And plus,also worries me (i don't trust) my <<old>> system,especially my motherboard ga-x38-ds4.>>
Please view my Specs.
Any idea for that?

As long as your MB can do SATA (yours does) your system specs are fine for an SSD drive. You'll also have no issues under Windows 7, in fact SSD drives are perfect for 7.

You have nothing to worry about

I hope so!

 

[panais]

ssd benefits?

Ok,the truth is that i order the ssd for speed.
But which are the really benefits of it?
My everyday pc use is:
Internet browsing,HD movies,Gaming,Downloading,scanning with esetss/mbam/superant

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Ok,the truth is that i order the ssd for speed.
But which are the really benefits of it?
My everyday pc use is:
Internet browsing,Gaming,Downloading,scanning with esetss/mbam/superant

I bought one a month ago, mostly on an impulse.

The only clearcut advantage is in boot speeds as far as I can tell. From 47 seconds down to 31 seconds. Whoopee.

My SSD has Windows and all my apps. I don't notice that programs or files open any quicker. Excel opens nearly instantaneously, but it did so before the SSD. I have a large Excel file that takes about 6 seconds to open now and it took about 6 seconds before I bought the SSD.

Don't expect to be bowled over.


Your scans might be quicker---I use MBAM and MSE, but haven't noticed any difference.

Defrag would probably be faster, but you don't defrag SSDs.

 

[pparks1]

The only clearcut advantage is in boot speeds as far as I can tell. From 47 seconds down to 31 seconds. Whoopee.

My boot times went from about 40 seconds down to 16. And I see big differences in virus scans as well as malwarebyte scans.

My SSD has Windows and all my apps. I don't notice that programs or files open any quicker. Excel opens nearly instantaneously, but it did so before the SSD.

My fast opening apps like Office, stayed about the same. However, things like games went from loading in 15-20 seconds down to 3-4. It's a very noticeable difference there. My video editing application, Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD opens much faster with my SSD than it did on my standard spinner drive.

I don't consider SSD's a requirement. In fact, i only have 1 computer with an SSD and don't have plans to upgrade the others.

 

[DeaconFrost]

If you don't trust the system now, and feel it is unstable, getting an SSD isn't going to solve that problem for you. Figure out that issue first, and then worry about using the SSD.

As for the bad things you've read on the internet...stick to reading from reputable sites.

As for the reasons to get an SSD, you should already know these if you've been asking which SSD you want. Boot speed is nearly meaningless to me, as the difference between 20 to 40 seconds once a day doesn't amount to much. The responsiveness of the system is why I am using SSDs for my system drivers in two computers now.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

PParks:

Have you noticed any faster opening of Photoshop?? I have not. I just checked---CS3 takes 10 seconds to open, about what it took on a spinning drive.

Is that 16 seconds boot as measured by the Visual Basic script found on this site--or through another program's measurement? I get 31 seconds using the script and 12 seconds using another program (Bootracer) that clearly measures something else--excludes the time spent in the BIOS I think---rather than a complete shutdown/reboot cycle.

I'm underwhelmed by SSDs, but did not expect to be overwhelmed. Overall, neutral. I won't buy another until 1 TB sizes fall to where 80 GB sizes are now. I expect to reuse my current 80 GB for foreseeable future builds--5 to 10 years.

 

[pparks1]

PParks:

Have you noticed any faster opening of Photoshop?? I have not. I just checked---CS3 takes 10 seconds to open, about what it took on a spinning drive.

I'm to poor to afford photoshop. Honestly, I don't need photoshop and I don't pirate software, so photoshop is something that I don't use.

Is that 16 seconds boot as measured by the Visual Basic script found on this site--or through another program's measurement?

It's a stopwatch timing. From the point that my BIOS hands off to Windows, and the screen goes black and says Starting Windows to my desktop is 16 seconds with a stopwatch. I think Bootracer claimed about 14 seconds if memory serves correctly.

I'm underwhelmed by SSDs, but did not expect to be overwhelmed. Overall, neutral. I won't buy another until 1 TB sizes fall to where 80 GB sizes are now. I expect to reuse my current 80 GB for foreseeable future builds--5 to 10 years.

I've seen quite a number of people here who claim they will never touch another computer that doesn't have an SSD again. I don't feel that way. In fact, my work computers all have spinners (WD Caviar Blue's) and I don't feel they are slow in any way, nor do they have to be any faster.

My boss actually sent me a link today and said, "hey, if I can get our team approval for this, which SSD drive of these do you want?". But all of the drives were 80GB and with my laptop I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu and I have about 90GB of stuff on my C drive because of VM's and the like. So, my opinion was that I probably would just stick with my 160GB spinner drive rather than try to survive on an 80GB SSD. The performance difference just isn't worth the lack of space on my laptop.

But for my home computer, where I have an SSD and a 1TB spinner, I'm glad I bought the SSD and don't regret it in any way. That machine always feels faster when i sit down and use it.

 

[panais]

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
I thing i will cancel the order for now.....

 

[pparks1]

I would expect photoshop to be more like this;


Or like this;

 

[DeaconFrost]

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
I thing i will cancel the order for now.....

It doesn't mean to cancel your order. It means to do your research so you know what to expect....and not get hung up on trivial matters, such as boot time.

 

[panais]

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
I thing i will cancel the order for now.....

It doesn't mean to cancel your order. It means to do your research so you know what to expect....and not get hung up on trivial matters, such as boot time.

Its ok,i believe is better for me to wait a little more.

 

[sygnus21]

If you don't trust the system now, and feel it is unstable, getting an SSD isn't going to solve that problem for you. Figure out that issue first, and then worry about using the SSD.

Agreed. No need in moving problems over to a new drive, whether spinner or SSD.

As for the reasons to get an SSD, you should already know these if you've been asking which SSD you want. Boot speed is nearly meaningless to me, as the difference between 20 to 40 seconds once a day doesn't amount to much. The responsiveness of the system is why I am using SSDs for my system drivers in two computers now.

Agree again.

Don't get caught up in all the hype about read/write speeds or you’re be chasing SSD drives forever. And as so many have stated, the OCZ Vertex two isn’t a bad drive for the price.

Anyway I swear I questioned the need to upgrade to an SSD drive just like you; I also questioned to price to gigabyte ratio. In the end I took the plunge and can clearly say it was the best upgrade I ever did to my system.

Nothing you do to your system will give you the noticeable performance increase you'll experience moving from a spinner HD to an SSD, Guarantee it.

In the end it’s your money and decision, but once you make the plunge, you’ll be impressed by the immediate and very noticeable performance increase.

My two cents.

 

[GeneO]

One of this days i will buy my first solid state drive.
So i need an expert advice,especially from someone who already has ssd.
First : Most of all worries me the compatibility issue with my GA-X38-DS4 motherboard,i don't want to throw the money for nothing. And i didn't found anything in the web about this.
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Second: IF IS NOT THERE ANY COMPATIBILITY ISSUE!! Then....Which one is better,faster?
A) Corsair Force Series F80A - solid state drive - 80 GB - SATA-300
B) OCZ Agility 2 Series - Solid state drive - 80 GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300
C) OCZ Vertex 2 Series - Solid state drive - 80 GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300

Faster how? What will you use it for? Boot speed isn't a good reason IMO. neither is how fast a program loads. Once it loads in Windows 7, if you have enough memory, it is a snap to reload the program. I think your concern should be in once a program is running, how can an SSD speed it up. For instance, if your program needs fast sequential writes and reads of non-compressible data (e.g. Phootshop scratch space), then you want an SSD that can perform these fast like an Intel 510 or 310 series (Sandforce based SSDs like OCZ and Corsair depend on compression for their speed). If you need lots of IOPs or fast random reads and writes then maybe OCZ may be better.

The newer OCZ Agility 2 have lower sequential write speeds (due to a switch to 25nm from 34 nm technology) without a rebranding of the model so caveat emptor. You may want to look into the Intel 310 series as well - solid performance, reliability.

If you are going to wait, keep your eyes peeled for a drop in price of the newer Intel 510 or 310 series, or the OCZ Vertex 3.

 

[panais]

Ocz Vertex 2 Solid State 80GB

I just received my Solid state Drive

So please lets refresh this Thread.

I want some advices before starting the windows 7 installation etc.

I want the best performance,well the best of it in any way!

 

[Wishmaster]

What I would do is shut down the PC, and unplug all other HDs.
Install the SSD, and plug it into the very first SATA Port.

Start up, go into the bios, and change to AHCI mode.
Install Windows.

Once your up and running, you can shut down again and hook up all the other drives, and format/partition however you choose to do.


Once in Windows, if you run the WEI and then reboot the machine, it will make appropriate adjustments after that first run.
(disbale Defrag on the SSD, as well as Prefetch)

This is all you need to do.
I wouldn't do any tweaks to it other than maybe disabling Hiberfile if you do not use Hibernate to free up some space.

 

[pparks1]

There is very little you have to manually do to get performance out of your SSD drive. If you can handle it, reinstall the operating systems to it. This ensures that partitions are aligned and unnecessary software is not loaded to the drive. When installing your OS, it's often recommended to ensure your BIOS is set to AHCI mode (versus IDE mode) for best performance.

 

[panais]

Ok i start now,i cant wait!

I will post back with results and news when ill have again windows 7

 

[Hopalong X]

I'm not second guessing anyone. I was asked to post.

A fresh install of Windows 7 is the best way to go.

Wishmaster is telling you right.

What I would do is shut down the PC, and unplug all other HDs.
Install the SSD, and plug it into the very first SATA Port.
Start up, go into the bios, and change to AHCI mode.
Install Windows.

Windows will install just like when you put it on an HDD.
It will set all the needed settings such as offset automatically.

If you want to use an image of your OS as it is now that can also be done.
I did mine this way and learned a lot but you can run into unexpected issues.
I don't recommend going this way for first timers. Experienced users or in my case the too hard headed to quit.

After you have Win 7 installed on the SSD you can make new images for back up and using these is just like reimaging an HDD. Easy.

You will want to disable hibernation. That is one of the last things to do so can be covered when you are done with other things.

Don't make any changes to the HDD's except unplugging them while installing Windows to SSD. If a problem arises installing to SSD you can plug the Win7 HD back in and use it.
Good to have a back up until the SSD is operational.

 

[panais]

I finish,i have done all the above,now im with my ssd here

But when i start the computer in POST I take this message

""Detective Driver No Driver Found""

I set ANCI in bios.Do i need to change anything else in bios?

Do i have to enable it in windows also?

I attached a screenshot from my regedit,i dont know if anci is enable in windows or not.