My New Computer. Impressed with the O/c.

[dannyboy2005]

I have built my self a new rig (In spec)

I have added 2x Noctua NF-S12B fans to my rad due to the fact when stress testing i was getting temps in the high 90*c's. It has helped it a little.

As you can see, currently running at a steady 52*c with 1.512V's. @ just over 4.4Ghz I may reduce the voltage slightly, or i may try and rise it to around 4.5Ghz if its stable enough.

On a side note, i shell post my BIOS settings and will someone be able to help me out what i can do to perhaps overclock it even more or lower the temps?

Thanks
Dan

 

[dannyboy2005]

I just did a Stress test with IntelBurn Test. It breezed it no problem.

You can see that the stress test had used 3681Mhz (3.68Ghz) when stress testing, Why is this?

One scary thing is, the hottest the CPU got was 97*c. This was only for a second or 2 and probably only occurred twice in the whole process, but i herd that these chips have a very sensitive sensor's on them and a majority of the times, give a false reading? What would be a acceptable temperature when its under load (Which i guess it'll never be under 100% load ever again as i don't own any games that is that much FPS hungry.)

 

[Fumz]

That's an awful lot of voltage for an i7. I hope you don't damage the chip.

 

[zzz2496]

1.5v... That is waaaayyy too high... The reason why it drops to 3.8GHz is because it's too hot, Intel chips usually start to throttle down at around 85 deg C. If you plan to keep it running at that voltage, I hope you have some money to buy a replacement in near future...

zzz2496

 

[dannyboy2005]

if i drop the voltage, i sacrifice performance

 

[RST101]

Your basically frying that cpu with it set like that.

Does a couple of hundred mhz really matter that much?

I'd be content to have a bog standard 930 with no interference from me as performance from one of those is more than sufficient.

 

[Fumz]

If you keep pushing 1.5 volts to the core, you sacrifice the core... plain and simple.

What you're going after at 4.4GHz isn't performance, it's more bragging rights. Which is all good and fine, except if you have to pump that much juice in order to do it; then, well, it's not a good overclock. A good overclock would be to achieve that on minimal volts.

Perhaps you got a chip from one of the bad batches of 930's? If so, those are the breaks, but, look at it honestly, the chip is still amazing. As far as real world performance goes, I'd wager that you're not really "sacrificing" much at all.

What you must consider is diminished returns. How many fps do you get at a safe OC of 4GHz vs fps @ 4.4GHz with chip frying amounts of voltage? My guess is that between 4 and 4.4GHz, the fps gains are minimal at best, if you get any at all, as you're already pushing the graphics card as fast as it can go even below 4GHz.

... but, it's your chip, your call.

**edit**

Just noticed you have an 8800. You're killing your cpu for fps gains you cannot achieve. Your video card is a bottleneck your cpu cannot overcome.

 

[smarteyeball]

Is that OC with or without hyperthreading disabled?

I have to echo what others are saying - far too many volts and it's running far too hot because of it.

It wouldn't always hit those temps outside of stress testing, but it will still run far hooter than it should.



Also, 5 passes of IBT is grossly inadequate for any 'real' stability indicators.

I have a bad batched DO 920 which is a volt hungry pig and tbh, going any higher than 4ghz just isn't worth the volts, or heat for virtually zero noticeable difference in 'real world' performance.

 

[dannyboy2005]

If you keep pushing 1.5 volts to the core, you sacrifice the core... plain and simple.

What you're going after at 4.4GHz isn't performance, it's more bragging rights. Which is all good and fine, except if you have to pump that much juice in order to do it; then, well, it's not a good overclock. A good overclock would be to achieve that on minimal volts.

Perhaps you got a chip from one of the bad batches of 930's? If so, those are the breaks, but, look at it honestly, the chip is still amazing. As far as real world performance goes, I'd wager that you're not really "sacrificing" much at all.

What you must consider is diminished returns. How many fps do you get at a safe OC of 4GHz vs fps @ 4.4GHz with chip frying amounts of voltage? My guess is that between 4 and 4.4GHz, the fps gains are minimal at best, if you get any at all, as you're already pushing the graphics card as fast as it can go even below 4GHz.

... but, it's your chip, your call.

**edit**

Just noticed you have an 8800. You're killing your cpu for fps gains you cannot achieve. Your video card is a bottleneck your cpu cannot overcome.

Hi

I fully understand your point about what's another 200Mhz .2Ghz going to make? Well the simple answer is, Cos i can, i want to blag.

I didn't know that 1.5v was damaging the chip. You will probably lol but i thought if it reached like 2.0v then it would start damaging it LOL (I'm a noob to all this). I have looked around on the web and found that 1.5 is suicidal but ideally, 1.3 will be fine but lower the better.

As far as i'm aware, there's only 3 bad batches: 3001A117, 3001A135 and 195*****. I have batch #3951A811, I have a D0 chip which is basically 'Cherry picked', but i am unaware if the batches above were D0, i can only guess the C0 as there are no other descriptions about it.

I have not done any frame rate testing yet, after all, i'm not using it to 'benchmark' i just want it to be a rather quick computer.

I haven't o/c the graphics card yet (I don't know where you thought that from) but looking to get a 2gb HD4870 one. I have asked before it will be a bottle neck, some people say no, its a sales blag and others say yes. I scored 6.9 on my WEI with my graphics that i am using earlier on yesterday. We shell see when i start gaming.

I have now dropped down to 1.3V at 4.2Ghz and it all seems to be fine. I really wish i could boost it more to 'brag' but well see.

Thanks for your advice gentleman.

 

[amigo max]

Well, thats a nice OC, I was never able to run my PC above 4GHz for 5 minutes, I got BSOD's. I am on 4GHz stuck after millions of try's to get above it but it wont go, BTW i'm on 1.45v and i cant go any lower to keep that 33% OC
Max temp i go at is 45C CPU.

 

[dannyboy2005]

Assuming were using the same motherbards, Asus Rampage. I think its rather odd how some processors can be overclocked so much with so little volts where as others are a little voltage monster.

I consider my self lucky tat i can get above 4Ghz, i have seen on some forums people have hit the wall at only 3.8Ghz

 

[BCXtreme]

Apparently every chip is unique in that way. No idea why. Also, I have upgraded from a 9800 GTX+ to a GTX 260, and there IS a performance increase with the newer cards. Some people say that performance stops increasing past the 8800 cards, but they say that because they don't see any obvious FPS increases. What they don't realize is that a more powerful card will take more punishment before the FPS would ever go down. My old 9800 GTX+ would slow down in the more intense scenes of certain games, but my new card either doesn't slow down, or slows down much less. But the maximum FPS in the calm scenes is the same with both.

 

[smarteyeball]

I think its rather odd how some processors can be overclocked so much with so little volts where as others are a little voltage monster.

Unfortunately, like a lot of components, it's luck of the draw in the manufacturing process.

 

[dannyboy2005]

I'm not too bothered about frame rates, at the end of the day, as long as it will lock at 27FPS and stay smooth i don't care. Reason being is our eyes only see at 25FPS.

About the components + batch numbers. Would the processors in batch ****** be exactly all the same spec, as they were built all at the same time, with the same chemicals etc etc?

On the other-hand. I have set voltage to "Auto" (I kept getting BSOD) and running at 4.2Ghz and i'm at 1.432v when idle and at around 54*C (With Htt Off) and 1.44V when i'm using 100% processor. when temps around middle 80's.

Unfortunately the i7's do run extreamly hot.

 

[Haxx187]

i disagree on I7's running hot.. i have 4 in the house that run quite a bit cooler then whats your getting. All mine are overclocked a little , but it takes trial and error to get the right combo. Keep at it, you will figure it out.

 

[BCXtreme]

I'm not too bothered about frame rates, at the end of the day, as long as it will lock at 27FPS and stay smooth i don't care. Reason being is our eyes only see at 25FPS.

About the components + batch numbers. Would the processors in batch ****** be exactly all the same spec, as they were built all at the same time, with the same chemicals etc etc?

On the other-hand. I have set voltage to "Auto" (I kept getting BSOD) and running at 4.2Ghz and i'm at 1.432v when idle and at around 54*C (With Htt Off) and 1.44V when i'm using 100% processor. when temps around middle 80's.

Unfortunately the i7's do run extreamly hot.

Your System Specs don't seem to indicate that you have any form of liquid cooling; in my experience, any quad-core will run hot without that. That's what burned out my last CPU (Core 2 Quad with fan only), and it wasn't even overclocked...

 

[Fumz]

I'm not too bothered about frame rates, at the end of the day, as long as it will lock at 27FPS and stay smooth i don't care. Reason being is our eyes only see at 25FPS.

About the components + batch numbers. Would the processors in batch ****** be exactly all the same spec, as they were built all at the same time, with the same chemicals etc etc?

On the other-hand. I have set voltage to "Auto" (I kept getting BSOD) and running at 4.2Ghz and i'm at 1.432v when idle and at around 54*C (With Htt Off) and 1.44V when i'm using 100% processor. when temps around middle 80's.

Unfortunately the i7's do run extreamly hot.

I'm not sure where exactly you're getting your information, but what's clear is this: you really should spend some time boning up on overclocking from a reputable site. As it stands, you have no idea what you're doing, nor what you're talking about. I really don't say this to be harsh, or mean, or rude. Honestly. I'm just being blunt because you've made, and continue to make, serious errors based on "facts" you have which are dubious at best; at worst, flat out wrong.

To suggest that we can't see above 25 fps is absurd. Please don't bother linking us to sites that tell us what movies and tv fps are, we've all seen it. What those sites fail to take into account is that movies are a constant games are not. Go to any graphics card review site on the planet and notice what they say about 30fps vs 60 fps. Ask any of your friends what the difference between 30 and 60 fps is. It's very noticeable, because 25 fps borders on unplayable.

No two components are ever going to be the same, no matter what, ever. It's luck of the draw. You can try and order from batches that are known to be good overclockers, but because there are no guarantees, you've got to deal with what arrives at your door.

You need to stop setting voltage to auto unless you're running at stock speeds. The board is pumping too much juice. i7's DO NOT run extremely hot; just the opposite, they run quite cool, especially when compared to an i5. Again, I have to ask where you're getting your information because it's going to cause you to ruin your cpu.

50C idle :shock: 80C full load. :shock: For an i7? That's insane. i7's run cooler than i5's and my i5 runs at load what yours idles at. Clearly, you're not doing this correctly.

 

[BCXtreme]

On the subject of "how many FPS can we see" ... there is no definite answer simply because our eyes do not see "frames," but rather a continuous stream of light and motion. And yes, the threshold of FPS before we can't tell the difference is way way way WAY above 25.

 

[Nemix]

Where's the hardware?

That's a very misleading thread 'Title' you've got.

 

[stormy13]

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As the others have already said, too many volts on yours. Probably also explains why your fans are running at full speed all the time, busy trying to keep it cool.