NAS shows up as media device?

[scott potterton]

Ok disabled firewall rebooted and no change. NAS still showing up as media device and not as computer.

 

[SquonkSC]

Ok disabled firewall rebooted and no change. NAS still showing up as media device and not as computer.

Well, ok. Better put the fw back on.

I am sorry I have to go now, because I only have less than 5 hrs sleep left.

I'll check back tomorrow, and jump back in if it's not solved by then.

Good night and good luck.

 

[scott potterton]

Thanks for all your help so far!!!

 

[TheSchaft]

Alrighty then! Back to see if we can get this sucker solved.

I downloaded a copy of the ANAS Model 350 User's Manual, so we can talk from the same sheet of music, assuming that is what you have.


From looking in the manual, you should be able to map the drive as \\airnas, if you have it in the default configuration.

There's a configure set of pages at \\airnas\Configure to do some configure stuff.

It is a samba server, so maybe some other forlks can chime in.

I also found the following. If you feel comfortable checking the firewall policies, you might want to look into this:


"...the problem of accessing folders shared on an NAS adaptor involves the level of authentication that Windows 7, by default, uses. It's default is to use NTLMv2 for authentication, which I believe isn't supported in either Mac OSX or Linux yet. A second problem is the Minimum Session Security for NTVLM SSP based Clients, which in Windows 7 is "require 128 bit". To resolve these issues you need to:

1. In Windows 7, open the Control Panel
2. Switch to "Classic" view
3. Double-click Administration Tools
4. Double-click Local Security Policy
5. Or Secpol.msc
6. Expand "Local Policies" and select "Security Options"
7. Alternate : Type secpol.msc to get editor up then
8. Locate "Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication Level" in the list and double-click it.
9. Change the setting from "Send NTMLv2 response only" to "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session if negotiated"
10. Network Security: Minimum session security for NTLM SSP Based (including secure RPC) Clients
11. Change the setting from "require 128 bit" to unchecked (No Minimum)
12. Click OK

I firstly tried just changing the item '9' on it's own and got an RPC Error message saying I didn't have access to the network resourse. After then changing item '11' I was, for the 1st time, able to access the folders on my Addonics NAS Share.

After changing these Policies in the Local Security Policy Editor it's not necessary to reboot your system for them to take effect. Also you need to have Administrator Privilages to be able to make these changes to your system."

I cannot attest to whether this will work, but you can look at the policies and see how they are currently set. (Keep track of any changes you try, of course.)

When I see you're back on line, we can chat some more. I'll be away for about 2 hours (until around 6PM Central time).

 

[SquonkSC]

Alrighty then! Back to see if we can get this sucker solved.

I downloaded a copy of the ANAS Model 350 User's Manual, so we can talk from the same sheet of music, assuming that is what you have.


From looking in the manual, you should be able to map the drive as \\airnas, if you have it in the default configuration.

There's a configure set of pages at \\airnas\Configure to do some configure stuff.

It is a samba server, so maybe some other forlks can chime in.

I also found the following. If you feel comfortable checking the firewall policies, you might want to look into this:


"...the problem of accessing folders shared on an NAS adaptor involves the level of authentication that Windows 7, by default, uses. It's default is to use NTLMv2 for authentication, which I believe isn't supported in either Mac OSX or Linux yet. A second problem is the Minimum Session Security for NTVLM SSP based Clients, which in Windows 7 is "require 128 bit". To resolve these issues you need to:

1. In Windows 7, open the Control Panel
2. Switch to "Classic" view
3. Double-click Administration Tools
4. Double-click Local Security Policy
5. Or Secpol.msc
6. Expand "Local Policies" and select "Security Options"
7. Alternate : Type secpol.msc to get editor up then
8. Locate "Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication Level" in the list and double-click it.
9. Change the setting from "Send NTMLv2 response only" to "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session if negotiated"
10. Network Security: Minimum session security for NTLM SSP Based (including secure RPC) Clients
11. Change the setting from "require 128 bit" to unchecked (No Minimum)
12. Click OK

I firstly tried just changing the item '9' on it's own and got an RPC Error message saying I didn't have access to the network resourse. After then changing item '11' I was, for the 1st time, able to access the folders on my Addonics NAS Share.

After changing these Policies in the Local Security Policy Editor it's not necessary to reboot your system for them to take effect. Also you need to have Administrator Privilages to be able to make these changes to your system."

I cannot attest to whether this will work, but you can look at the policies and see how they are currently set. (Keep track of any changes you try, of course.)

When I see you're back on line, we can chat some more. I'll be away for about 2 hours (until around 6PM Central time).

Even in case it won't work for him, rep well deserved.

Brilliant approach!

Edit: I knew you were an asset to this forum from the start.
Nice to find out I was right.

 

[TheSchaft]

Just trying to help, same as all the folks here.

This problem has been bugging me, so I took a little time to sniff around.

Hope you have some samba expertise - one of my many missing areas...

 

[TheSchaft]

From looking at the documentation, I suspect that it is a sharing problem. I don't think it will show the folders that are not shared under normal Windows 7 folder options settings. That may be something else to look at.

 

[SquonkSC]

Just trying to help, same as all the folks here.
This problem has been bugging me, so I took a little time to sniff around.
Hope you have some samba expertise - one of my many missing areas...

You should learn to take a compliment.

From looking at the documentation, I suspect that it is a sharing problem. I don't think it will show the folders that are not shared under normal Windows 7 folder options settings. That may be something else to look at.

Weird thing is that it worked ok for a little while, he said.

I had my router disappearing from network overview when I installed zonealarm,
that's why I asked if he could disable the firewall, but that didn't help either.

To be honest, I know absolutely nothing of the consumer NAS disks out there.
So if the problem is a setting in the NAS configuration, I am useless for the OP.
Don't have a NAS at home to figure it out.
I use a server with multiple disks.

Greetz

 

[TheSchaft]

... Weird thing is that it worked ok for a little while, he said...

I must have missed where he said it worked for a little while. Hummmm... That would indicate that something was changed - either by the OP or by Windows trying to "help".

Guess we'll have to wait and see. :huh:

More tomorrow - been a long day here.

 

[SquonkSC]

Good night.

Haven't seen the OP again by the way.

 

[scott potterton]

Ok sorry it took my so long to get back to you. Crazy weekend, but I took my laptop with windows 7 over to my mother’s house. Her PC is running windows 7 and when I turned on my laptop and connected to her Wi-Fi network my laptop showed her PC in the network folder titled computer along with every user login under the media device folder. When I looked at the network folder on my mother’s PC I could see my laptop under the computer folder. Now that I am back home I can’t see my PC that is running XP PRO under the network folder titled computer and besides my computer the only other thing showing up in the media folder is the NAS. So long story short I have gone from being able to see my NAS under the computer folder and connecting to it, then it was “moved” to the media device folder and I am not sure how. If I go to my PC I can see my laptop with windows 7 and access all the folders on it. It looks like my laptop is having problems seeing anything on my network, but everything on my network can see my laptop. I am still able to use the CMD command on my laptop and run ping 192.168.1.100 (IP for NAS) and receive a reply from it. I also tried to map the network drive as \\airnas & \\airnas\192.168.1.100 with no luck.

 

[SquonkSC]

Ok sorry it took my so long to get back to you. Crazy weekend, but I took my laptop with windows 7 over to my mother’s house. Her PC is running windows 7 and when I turned on my laptop and connected to her Wi-Fi network my laptop showed her PC in the network folder titled computer along with every user login under the media device folder. When I looked at the network folder on my mother’s PC I could see my laptop under the computer folder. Now that I am back home I can’t see my PC that is running XP PRO under the network folder titled computer and besides my computer the only other thing showing up in the media folder is the NAS. So long story short I have gone from being able to see my NAS under the computer folder and connecting to it, then it was “moved” to the media device folder and I am not sure how. If I go to my PC I can see my laptop with windows 7 and access all the folders on it. It looks like my laptop is having problems seeing anything on my network, but everything on my network can see my laptop. I am still able to use the CMD command on my laptop and run ping 192.168.1.100 (IP for NAS) and receive a reply from it. I also tried to map the network drive as \\airnas & \\airnas\192.168.1.100 with no luck.

You can't map like that. \\airnas = \\192.168.1.100, so \\airnas\192.168.1.100 is impossible.

You must refer to a shared folder on the nas.
So, if there is a folder named music, and you shared it, the way to map it would be:
\\airnas\music or \\192.168.1.100\music

 

[scott potterton]

Ok I tried \\192.168.1.100\C which is the first folder there and it is shared. I can access that folder from my Mac and window XP Pro PC, but still no luck with the windows 7 laptop.

 

[SquonkSC]

Ok I tried \\192.168.1.100\C which is the first folder there and it is shared. I can access that folder from my Mac and window XP Pro PC, but still no luck with the windows 7 laptop.

try \\192.168.1.100\c$ or \\airnas\c$

 

[scott potterton]

Ok I have no idea what just happened, but I changed my wireless security from WEP to WPA2 personal. (The only reason I had WEP on was because my Mac had 10.2 and that was the only security that was supported by the airport card. I finally got it upgraded over the weekend to 10.4 which supports WPA2 so I changed my wireless security.) I unplugged the router, modem, & NAS and after waiting for about thirty seconds and plugged everything back in and now I can see my Windows XP Pro PC & NAS under the computer folder in network!! I have tried to cycle power before on all assets, but I had no luck. Now I change the wireless security, delete my old network and make a new one for window 7 on the laptop, cycle power on all network assets and now it visible. Now I have another problem when I double click on the NAS under the computer folder of the network I get the following error message “NAS is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.” Then it says under that “The account is not authorized to log in from this station.” I am able to access all files in the NAS from the XP PC but now the computers and NAS are not showing up on my Mac Laptop. What should I do from here?

 

[SquonkSC]

Ok I have no idea what just happened, but I changed my wireless security from WEP to WPA2 personal. (The only reason I had WEP on was because my Mac had 10.2 and that was the only security that was supported by the airport card. I finally got it upgraded over the weekend to 10.4 which supports WPA2 so I changed my wireless security.) I unplugged the router, modem, & NAS and after waiting for about thirty seconds and plugged everything back in and now I can see my Windows XP Pro PC & NAS under the computer folder in network!! I have tried to cycle power before on all assets, but I had no luck. Now I change the wireless security, delete my old network and make a new one for window 7 on the laptop, cycle power on all network assets and now it visible. Now I have another problem when I double click on the NAS under the computer folder of the network I get the following error message “NAS is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.” Then it says under that “The account is not authorized to log in from this station.” I am able to access all files in the NAS from the XP PC but now the computers and NAS are not showing up on my Mac Laptop. What should I do from here?

Unplugging the router is what did the trick.
It was the culprit for not seeing your nas on win7.

To enter the NAS now from win7 do this.

1. open explorer
2. click map network drive
3. check "connect with different credentials..."
4. in the map box enter: \\airnas\c
5. click finish

 

[SquonkSC]

Sorry, I forgot the part where you enter the username and password of the nas.

 

[SquonkSC]

And sorry man, but I have to go to bed. 3:16am.

Just post away,

I'll check in tomorrow.

greetz

 

[scott potterton]

Tried all of the above with no luck. So I restarted the computer and when I logged back into windows, my NAS and my PC where no longer listed under the computer folder in network. On the other hand now they are showing up on my Mac again.

 

[SquonkSC]

Tried all of the above with no luck. So I restarted the computer and when I logged back into windows, my NAS and my PC where no longer listed under the computer folder in network. On the other hand now they are showing up on my Mac again.

Looks like the mac and the pc are bumping each other.

I hope you have fixed IP's, if not, set them.

Could it be you have two DHCP servers at work?
Like one on the router, and one on the NAS, or on some other machine?

It's hard troubleshooting through posts.
I think it's time to get a network specialist friend over, to look at it.

Greetz