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Johnathan Lyman

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Ok guys and gals,

Bought a new monitor to compliment my laptop's 15.4" screen. Said monitor is the hP S2031. A 20" 16:9 LCD @1600x900 native.

The kicker. My laptop INSISTS the highest it will allow via VGA is 1440x900 which is *ok* given 900 is native in one direction so it's at least 100% crisp. The 80px black bars on either side are odd and I am dumping this laptop in 3 weeks BUT I want that missing 160px.

Here's what I've tried:

1. Installed Monitor drivers via disc.
2. Updates graphics driver
3. Forced/created a 1600x900 resolution. This filled it out BUT the resolution was still 1440x900 according to the monitor and it was fuzzy/blurry.
4. Rebooted with monitor attached.
5. Set to external only.

I think I know the answer to this one given that even on my LCD, it won't do a real 16:9 resolution of 1280x720. It'll do 768 instead. No way to force force and be successful on the 720 to the TV (per same method for monitor)

Any ideas?

And for the record, for folks in the US, the monitor is on sale for $99 at Staples and they have a -15% coupon which after tax if you have it totals around $85 to $95. Just sayin. www.staples.com
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ
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MSI 890FXA-GD70
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G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066
Graphics Card(s)
2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB
Sound Card
VIA 8-channel
Monitor(s) Displays
2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV
Screen Resolution
4480x900
Hard Drives
1x Crucial 64GB SSD
3x 1TB HDDs (WD, Seagate, Hitatchi)
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PSU
Kingwin 1000W Modular
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Coolermaster HAF 932
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Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
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Samsung BD-ROM/DVD-RW
The problem might lie in the connection itself...ie VGA. There are set limits to a VGA connection. Try going to a DVI connection and see how that works for you.
 

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On board RealTek HD
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Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
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1600 X 900
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The issue might be with the Graphics of the laptop. You have an IGP (Integrated Graphics Processor) These are not as powerful as Dedicated Graphics, but they also aren't usually meant to hook up to 2nd monitors and it might not have the capability to display anything higher than your laptop monitor's native resolution.

Also, is the laptop closed? it might be trying to hold the same aspect ratio for the laptop display and the external monitor
 

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ASUS G60-RBBX05
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Win7 Home Premium 64x
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Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo)
Memory
4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM
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16" LED Backlit
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1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon
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OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD / 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm
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6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours }
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Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute
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Heatsink: COOLER MASTER V8 CPU Cooler
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1866 (PC3 15000)
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 2
The problem might lie in the connection itself...ie VGA. There are set limits to a VGA connection. Try going to a DVI connection and see how that works for you.

VGA connectors have no resolution limits. The VGA cable came with the monitor. I do not have a DVI connection on my laptop. Nor do I have HDMI. It's 3 years old.

The issue might be with the Graphics of the laptop. You have an IGP (Integrated Graphics Processor) These are not as powerful as Dedicated Graphics, but they also aren't usually meant to hook up to 2nd monitors and it might not have the capability to display anything higher than your laptop monitor's native resolution.

Also, is the laptop closed? it might be trying to hold the same aspect ratio for the laptop display and the external monitor

I tried closing it, I tried only display 2 (monitor). No difference.

I also want to update on forcing 1600x900. The monitor aparently now KNOWS its getting 1600x900 BUT it's squished (such a technical word) in on the sides to an almost 4:3 ratio. When this forced resolution is given, I can't tell the monitor to keep ratio like I do with 1440x900. That option is greyed out. I also lose all my ratio options in the Intel CP.
 

My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ
Motherboard
MSI 890FXA-GD70
Memory
G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066
Graphics Card(s)
2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB
Sound Card
VIA 8-channel
Monitor(s) Displays
2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV
Screen Resolution
4480x900
Hard Drives
1x Crucial 64GB SSD
3x 1TB HDDs (WD, Seagate, Hitatchi)
1x 500GB Seagate External
PSU
Kingwin 1000W Modular
Case
Coolermaster HAF 932
Cooling
1x 120mm, 3x 200mm, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
Mouse
Microsoft Wiresless Mouse 5000
Internet Speed
20mbps
Other Info
Samsung BD-ROM/DVD-RW
Have you tried the monitor on another laptop or anything else to make sure it doesn't have a hardware issue.

Also, maybe the laptop IGP is not able to put through to that aspect ratio. I have seen issues with this in the past when I got a 22" screen. (upgraded from a reg. 4x3 19") My crappy old Dell would not display on it correctly....It couldn't go into that resolution at all...
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS G60-RBBX05
OS
Win7 Home Premium 64x
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo)
Memory
4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM
Monitor(s) Displays
16" LED Backlit
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD / 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm
PSU
6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours }
Case
ASUS G60 Laptop
Keyboard
Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute
Internet Speed
Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - currently overheating problems :(

2nd Rig: Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
CPU: AMD FX-6200 Zambezi 3.8GHz (4.1GHz Turbo)
Heatsink: COOLER MASTER V8 CPU Cooler
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1866 (PC3 15000)
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 2
Have you tried the monitor on another laptop or anything else to make sure it doesn't have a hardware issue.

Also, maybe the laptop IGP is not able to put through to that aspect ratio. I have seen issues with this in the past when I got a 22" screen. (upgraded from a reg. 4x3 19") My crappy old Dell would not display on it correctly....It couldn't go into that resolution at all...

All of the machines I can try it on right now are older (2005-2007 HP desktops) so I don't know if I'll get the results I want.

Like I said, I am replacing this laptop in a few weeks as a Christmas present to myself so I might just have to stick it out. It's not like it's distorted at 1440x900. The bezel is black and the bars on the sides are black so it's not really that distracting. Even at that resolution it looks loads better than the 1280x800 I'm using to using. Not to mention the colors are crisper. For an essentially $85 monitor, it looks awesome. (shameless plug)
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ
Motherboard
MSI 890FXA-GD70
Memory
G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066
Graphics Card(s)
2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB
Sound Card
VIA 8-channel
Monitor(s) Displays
2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV
Screen Resolution
4480x900
Hard Drives
1x Crucial 64GB SSD
3x 1TB HDDs (WD, Seagate, Hitatchi)
1x 500GB Seagate External
PSU
Kingwin 1000W Modular
Case
Coolermaster HAF 932
Cooling
1x 120mm, 3x 200mm, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
Mouse
Microsoft Wiresless Mouse 5000
Internet Speed
20mbps
Other Info
Samsung BD-ROM/DVD-RW
Your integrated graphics won't do that high of a resolution....doesn't matter if the monitor will.
 

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Custom Asus
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Win7 64
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AMD Phenom X4 9950 2.6ghz
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Asus Crosshair
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8 gigs Corsair
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2 X Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (G92) 512 in SLI
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Onboard
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Samsung 22 inch
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
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WD 1 TB, WD 500 Gig, WD 320 Gig
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Thermaltake 850 watt
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Raidmax
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Zalman 9700
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Microsoft
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Logitech MX 518
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25 mbps
Your integrated graphics won't do that high of a resolution....doesn't matter if the monitor will.

Clearly.

Well I can't say I didn't try!
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ
Motherboard
MSI 890FXA-GD70
Memory
G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066
Graphics Card(s)
2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB
Sound Card
VIA 8-channel
Monitor(s) Displays
2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV
Screen Resolution
4480x900
Hard Drives
1x Crucial 64GB SSD
3x 1TB HDDs (WD, Seagate, Hitatchi)
1x 500GB Seagate External
PSU
Kingwin 1000W Modular
Case
Coolermaster HAF 932
Cooling
1x 120mm, 3x 200mm, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
Mouse
Microsoft Wiresless Mouse 5000
Internet Speed
20mbps
Other Info
Samsung BD-ROM/DVD-RW
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