New To Overclocking help!

[Quadrider10]

ok so i just built my rig and i want to OC the CPU.

i have an AMD FX-4300 stock clocked at 3.8 base and 4.0 turbo, 95 watt tdp, and MSI 970a-g43 MOBO

my goal is to get the base to 4.0ghz and the turbo to 4.5ghz. though i have heard that this CPU can clock to 5ghz with no problems.

im still on stock cooler, but case gets plenty of air. so unless it gets too hot, then this is my goal. i want to keep the turbo on because i dont always need the full 4.5ghz all the time and i think it will keep the temps down a bit.

ive looked up what the temps should be and core temps should be under 62C and CPU under 70C

so with that said, where do i start? lol sorry for being so vague.

 

[TwoCables]

I know you don't want to hear this, but it's not safe to overclock with that PSU powering your system. For that matter, it's not even good to have it powering your system at stock. It could die due to overclocking and if it dies, then it could kill your entire system. At worst, it could even start a fire, but of course that's a worst-case scenario. Still, I wouldn't recommend this PSU to even my worst enemy.

It's not due to a lack of power, it's due to the very low quality of the components inside of it as well as its low internal build quality. I'm sorry, but if you want to overclock, then this PSU has to be replaced with a good quality-made unit first. I don't want to see you lose your computer because of it.

 

[Quadrider10]

I know you don't want to hear this, but it's not safe to overclock with that PSU powering your system. For that matter, it's not even good to have it powering your system at stock. It could die due to overclocking and if it dies, then it could kill your entire system. At worst, it could even start a fire, but of course that's a worst-case scenario. Still, I wouldn't recommend this PSU to even my worst enemy.

It's not due to a lack of power, it's due to the very low quality of the components inside of it as well as its low internal build quality. I'm sorry, but if you want to overclock, then this PSU has to be replaced with a good quality-made unit first. I don't want to see you lose your computer because of it.

ya i know... its an upgrade for the future. i forgot to post before, that im not planning on OCing rite now. i wanna give it quite a while just to make sure everything is working 110% but i just want to learn how to so i know before i go in.

 

[TwoCables]

I know you don't want to hear this, but it's not safe to overclock with that PSU powering your system. For that matter, it's not even good to have it powering your system at stock. It could die due to overclocking and if it dies, then it could kill your entire system. At worst, it could even start a fire, but of course that's a worst-case scenario. Still, I wouldn't recommend this PSU to even my worst enemy.

It's not due to a lack of power, it's due to the very low quality of the components inside of it as well as its low internal build quality. I'm sorry, but if you want to overclock, then this PSU has to be replaced with a good quality-made unit first. I don't want to see you lose your computer because of it.

ya i know... its an upgrade for the future. i forgot to post before, that im not planning on OCing rite now. i wanna give it quite a while just to make sure everything is working 110% but i just want to learn how to so i know before i go in.

Oh. Well, there's one other thing: if you run into any problems before overclocking, then it's probably caused by that PSU. This part of the computer is really that critical.

 

[Dude]

Quadrider10, your manaul shows all the BIOS options, read through them. Also read through this forum below, it has a wealth of information.

:ar: Overclock.net

 

[Quadrider10]

I know you don't want to hear this, but it's not safe to overclock with that PSU powering your system. For that matter, it's not even good to have it powering your system at stock. It could die due to overclocking and if it dies, then it could kill your entire system. At worst, it could even start a fire, but of course that's a worst-case scenario. Still, I wouldn't recommend this PSU to even my worst enemy.

It's not due to a lack of power, it's due to the very low quality of the components inside of it as well as its low internal build quality. I'm sorry, but if you want to overclock, then this PSU has to be replaced with a good quality-made unit first. I don't want to see you lose your computer because of it.

ya i know... its an upgrade for the future. i forgot to post before, that im not planning on OCing rite now. i wanna give it quite a while just to make sure everything is working 110% but i just want to learn how to so i know before i go in.

Oh. Well, there's one other thing: if you run into any problems before overclocking, then it's probably caused by that PSU. This part of the computer is really that critical.

none at all! only 1 BSOD since i built it and that was because i tried messing with the CPU fan control. i reset it an all was good.

 

[Quadrider10]

Quadrider10, your manaul shows all the BIOS options, read through them. Also read through this forum below, it has a wealth of information.

:ar: Overclock.net

thanks! will do!

now i know i can just choose the OC genie and let that do everything for me, but i want to do it my self. and i want those specific frequencies. also i doubt the genie will do much. probs only 1-300mhz

 

[linnemeyerhere]

You may want to use the genie and see what it nets you as well as real temps? Then you'll have some base lines to shoot for. Yes a proper OC should net slightly higher and hopefully lower voltages hence temps. Crucial to this process is the PSU's rail power supply as well as your CPU coolers capabilities. Lastly don't overclock unless you can afford to lose some components, it's like the stock market or gambling only risk what you can afford to lose.

 

[Quadrider10]

You may want to use the genie and see what it nets you as well as real temps? Then you'll have some base lines to shoot for. Yes a proper OC should net slightly higher and hopefully lower voltages hence temps. Crucial to this process is the PSU's rail power supply as well as your CPU coolers capabilities. Lastly don't overclock unless you can afford to lose some components, it's like the stock market or gambling only risk what you can afford to lose.

sounds like a plan. if its sable and has no issues, then it should be close to 100% safe? also ive heard this cpu clocking to 4.8-5ghz and even 5.2 but no stable.

 

[Solarstarshines]

You may want to use the genie and see what it nets you as well as real temps? Then you'll have some base lines to shoot for. Yes a proper OC should net slightly higher and hopefully lower voltages hence temps. Crucial to this process is the PSU's rail power supply as well as your CPU coolers capabilities. Lastly don't overclock unless you can afford to lose some components, it's like the stock market or gambling only risk what you can afford to lose.

sounds like a plan. if its sable and has no issues, then it should be close to 100% safe? also ive heard this cpu clocking to 4.8-5ghz and even 5.2 but no stable.

Yeah those chips can bang out high clocks but yes that PSU might hurt you

I suggest getting a quality 550w or 600w atleast but as of now I know you have other things going on I will do my best to net you some deals on quality Psu's I know first hand how bad and dangerous PSU can be I had a quality one go bad and I have had a motherboard blow up before not from psu crappy board but still you don't want to go out like that

 

[Quadrider10]

You may want to use the genie and see what it nets you as well as real temps? Then you'll have some base lines to shoot for. Yes a proper OC should net slightly higher and hopefully lower voltages hence temps. Crucial to this process is the PSU's rail power supply as well as your CPU coolers capabilities. Lastly don't overclock unless you can afford to lose some components, it's like the stock market or gambling only risk what you can afford to lose.

sounds like a plan. if its sable and has no issues, then it should be close to 100% safe? also ive heard this cpu clocking to 4.8-5ghz and even 5.2 but no stable.

Yeah those chips can bang out high clocks but yes that PSU might hurt you

I suggest getting a quality 550w or 600w atleast but as of now I know you have other things going on I will do my best to net you some deals on quality Psu's I know first hand how bad and dangerous PSU can be I had a quality one go bad and I have had a motherboard blow up before not from psu crappy board but still you don't want to go out like that

wow alright note to self. do not OC with this PSU!

alright its on my list

 

[TwoCables]

For your build, a good quality-made 400-450W PSU is more than enough. Let us know when you can buy one because I want to help you select one.

 

[stormy13]

Something to consider if/when you get around to overclocking,

VRM Heatsink/Cooler MSI 970A G43.. - techPowerUp! Forums

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 or MSI 970A-G43 AMD 970

VRM Cooling on an MSI 970A G43? - Overclocking - Overclocking

If you do decide to overclock, you may want to go modestly as most of what I can find on that board it is an accident waiting to happen as far as the VRM's go.

Also a bit of info on VRM's and AMD motherboards,

AMD Motherboards - VRM info database

 

[Dude]

For your build, a good quality-made 400-450W PSU is more than enough. Let us know when you can buy one because I want to help you select one.

Something to consider if/when you get around to overclocking,

VRM Heatsink/Cooler MSI 970A G43.. - techPowerUp! Forums

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 or MSI 970A-G43 AMD 970

VRM Cooling on an MSI 970A G43? - Overclocking - Overclocking

If you do decide to overclock, you may want to go modestly as most of what I can find on that board it is an accident waiting to happen as far as the VRM's go.

Also a bit of info on VRM's and AMD motherboards,

AMD Motherboards - VRM info database

Quad, the above is great advice. While you read up on your future options, take some time and enjoy your new build

 

[Solarstarshines]

Something to consider if/when you get around to overclocking,

VRM Heatsink/Cooler MSI 970A G43.. - techPowerUp! Forums

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 or MSI 970A-G43 AMD 970

VRM Cooling on an MSI 970A G43? - Overclocking - Overclocking

If you do decide to overclock, you may want to go modestly as most of what I can find on that board it is an accident waiting to happen as far as the VRM's go.

Also a bit of info on VRM's and AMD motherboards,

AMD Motherboards - VRM info database

Yep the Mosfets suck on MSI boards they get too hot they go kaboom :shock:

 

[Quadrider10]

thanks guys!

for rite now, i need to get ram stick and ODD after that then im getting the PSU and cooler so i got a while until then. little by little.

also i was not planning on going balls to the wall on OCing. the max i will ever go on this cpu is 4.8ghz and myabe RAM OC. thats all.

no FSB, none of that. even though i can do it. theres 2 reasons for me to OC, 1 being better gaming performance, and 2, braging rights agenst my 2 friends lol

 

[Dude]

Are you referring to the military class components I have a msi board but I'm not OCing other than just a modest boost. Think I will go with ASUS in the future, I keep hearing this about MSI. I have been happy with them so far though/

 

[Quadrider10]

also, y can i not get the CPU temp???? of all the programs ive tried, none read correctly, but they all read the same temp. i installed controll center and its telling me a much more believeable temp that i believe is true.

 

[Dude]

Its strange but that is how software works sometimes Quad. I checked with a multi-meter and control center was spot on for my voltages. Plus you can use the remote app on your phone as a remote control for the PC

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Quad,
Have you downloaded MSI Live Update 5 and run it to check for latest bios and drivers, forget some if not all of the software suggestions?