New To Overclocking help!

[TwoCables]

so overall worth it?

also, my PSU gets quite hot..... like QUITE hot out the back after playing COD.... is that normal?

like i can smell it... its not a burning smell....

also having no issues....

I don't know, but it sounds to me like your PSU's internal temperature could be going over 30°C and that means its total continuous capacity may be decreasing as well. It's rated to deliver 500W continuously at 30°C or below. If the temperature goes over 30°C, then its continuous capacity diminishes. 30°C is only 86°F. A good quality-made PSU would be rated for up to 50°C, which is 122°F.

The reason you can smell it is the PSU is new. I think that's the New PSU Smell, kind of like the New Car Smell.

Anyway, I know that what I said sounds like a cause for alarm, but your power draw is still too low to worry.

 

[Quadrider10]

alrught thats sounds okkk.... im not too worried then

im not having lock ups, bsod, or nothing.... no funky voltages dips etc....

 

[Quadrider10]

do you guys think that once i get my cooler that it will be beneficial to keep base at 4ghz and turbo to 4.4 or base at 4.2 and turbo at 4.4? for what i do which is gaming and video editing, would it be good to do or just create more heat and do nothing? the most CPU intensive games i have are BF3 and FC 3. thats really it.

if its not beneficial then im just going to leave it what its at and just adjust the voltage and get it as low as possible.

 

[Quadrider10]

how do i set the turbo core voltage?

i lowered my voltage from 1.3910V to 1.3470V and its running stable. but when i run prime95 on less then 4 cores, the frequency jumps to 1.408V which basically defeats the purpose of lowering it in the first place.... so how do i control the turbo core voltage?

 

[Quadrider10]

nvm i got it lol..... so im working on voltages now.

 

[Solarstarshines]

well the VID is probably what you need to adjust but honestly I havn't messed with it much I changed it one time but it was more instead of less in your case i'm not sure how I would go about that generally

I would leave it alone but if your are persistent anyway google info on that

I think it is more for Overclocking purposes not sure about trying to use less voltage that should be with LLC but if you are using MSI then turn on APS automatic phase switching

 

[Quadrider10]

alright im setteing on 1.30V @ 4.2ghz. it still might be a little high, but compared to the 1.46V that it was going to when at 4.2ghz, i think its much better, and cooler lol

now the question remains, should i OC to 4.4? or is it just not worth it, and will just create more heat.

these are my only voltage adjustment tools.

 

[TwoCables]

well the VID is probably what you need to adjust but honestly I havn't messed with it much I changed it one time but it was more instead of less in your case i'm not sure how I would go about that generally

I would leave it alone but if your are persistent anyway google info on that

I think it is more for Overclocking purposes not sure about trying to use less voltage that should be with LLC but if you are using MSI then turn on APS automatic phase switching

The VID is just the Voltage Identification:

VID (Voltage Identification) Explained

So, it can't be changed. What needs to be changed, ultimately, is the core voltage. The core voltage isn't displayed by Core Temp or even by Real Temp, but it is displayed by programs like CPU-Z, HWMonitor, HWiNFO, etc. Adjusting other voltages can help too, but I'm trying to avoid opening a can of worms in this post in order to keep it short.

Now normally I would help, but being that this is an AMD system, I can't be of much help because I've never overclocked an AMD system nor have I ever helped anyone with one.

 

[Quadrider10]

I understand everything but VID. got everything working and I lowered it to 2.8V max at 4.2ghz. I ran prime for 10 mins and it was fine. I went down to 2.4 and started to get BSOD. So unsettling at 2.8V. Now I just have to run prime for an extended period of time.

 

[Solarstarshines]

well the VID is probably what you need to adjust but honestly I havn't messed with it much I changed it one time but it was more instead of less in your case i'm not sure how I would go about that generally

I would leave it alone but if your are persistent anyway google info on that

I think it is more for Overclocking purposes not sure about trying to use less voltage that should be with LLC but if you are using MSI then turn on APS automatic phase switching

The VID is just the Voltage Identification:

VID (Voltage Identification) Explained

So, it can't be changed. What needs to be changed, ultimately, is the core voltage. The core voltage isn't displayed by Core Temp or even by Real Temp, but it is displayed by programs like CPU-Z, HWMonitor, HWiNFO, etc. Adjusting other voltages can help too, but I'm trying to avoid opening a can of worms in this post in order to keep it short.

Now normally I would help, but being that this is an AMD system, I can't be of much help because I've never overclocked an AMD system nor have I ever helped anyone with one.

I have changed my VID before but it is under another name for the chip voltage when I showed the pic there is a setting in bios that will change it I seen it happen before

I'm not contradicting your post on VID but I seen mine change up to 1,4 with core temp

 

[Quadrider10]

Max temps are lower too. Went from max 58C playing bf3 to 51C

 

[Solarstarshines]

Max temps are lower too. Went from max 58C playing bf3 to 51C

Nice

Also I found the Answer on why the VID changes when read through core temp it is because certain energy features have been put in place by via overclocking or using energy saving features like speed step

Intel does the same thing Quadrider this is exactly what I was talking about http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/268278-29-confused

 

[ganjiry]

If you check my screenie of my cpu at stock it shows the VID changes between 0.938 and 1.425 while the vcore is totally different. When i oc my cpu and manually set the vcore the VID shows as its true 1.388v and stays the same no matter what vcore i use.
Different batches have different VID's and from what i gather a lower VID is better for overclocking as it results in lower temps, I think.

 

[Solarstarshines]

If you check my screenie of my cpu at stock it shows the VID changes between 0.938 and 1.425 while the vcore is totally different. When i oc my cpu and manually set the vcore the VID shows as its true 1.388v and stays the same no matter what vcore i use.
Different batches have different VID's and from what i gather a lower VID is better for overclocking as it results in lower temps, I think.

yes and that is true too but the VID changes depending on the level of power needed for the frequency the VID in physical form is not supposed to change but it flexes according to CPUZ and it is supposed to jump .05 volts or more per overclocking

 

[ganjiry]

It all gets proper complicated when you dig a bit enit
Time for my bed Night folks!

 

[Quadrider10]

ran prime for 15 mins 2 times on 4 cores and 2 cores, and no crashing at 1.28V temps never went above 57C. at stock speeds and voltages, running prime for 5 mins brought me to 60C very fast. lol so i will call that a success.

 

[Solarstarshines]

ran prime for 15 mins 2 times on 4 cores and 2 cores, and no crashing at 1.28V temps never went above 57C. at stock speeds and voltages, running prime for 5 mins brought me to 60C very fast. lol so i will call that a success.

that is still hot for stock with prime damn I've only gotten to 60c+ @ 4.9 to 5 ghz that is too high for me even at those speeds I actually had 4.9 Ghz stable but I felt no need to push my chip that hard for little gains

 

[Quadrider10]

ran prime for 15 mins 2 times on 4 cores and 2 cores, and no crashing at 1.28V temps never went above 57C. at stock speeds and voltages, running prime for 5 mins brought me to 60C very fast. lol so i will call that a success.

that is still hot for stock with prime damn I've only gotten to 60c+ @ 4.9 to 5 ghz that is too high for me even at those speeds I actually had 4.9 Ghz stable but I felt no need to push my chip that hard for little gains

mmmm yea.... but its a big improvement over stock. while i was at it, i also set my RAM to 1T and its stable! lol

 

[Quadrider10]

Nvm. Not stable on 2.8. Damn. Lol

1.30 it is though

 

[TwoCables]

well the VID is probably what you need to adjust but honestly I havn't messed with it much I changed it one time but it was more instead of less in your case i'm not sure how I would go about that generally

I would leave it alone but if your are persistent anyway google info on that

I think it is more for Overclocking purposes not sure about trying to use less voltage that should be with LLC but if you are using MSI then turn on APS automatic phase switching

The VID is just the Voltage Identification:

VID (Voltage Identification) Explained

So, it can't be changed. What needs to be changed, ultimately, is the core voltage. The core voltage isn't displayed by Core Temp or even by Real Temp, but it is displayed by programs like CPU-Z, HWMonitor, HWiNFO, etc. Adjusting other voltages can help too, but I'm trying to avoid opening a can of worms in this post in order to keep it short.

Now normally I would help, but being that this is an AMD system, I can't be of much help because I've never overclocked an AMD system nor have I ever helped anyone with one.

I have changed my VID before but it is under another name for the chip voltage when I showed the pic there is a setting in bios that will change it I seen it happen before

I'm not contradicting your post on VID but I seen mine change up to 1,4 with core temp

Each multiplier has its own VID, so you didn't change the VID. The only way to "change" the VID is by changing the multiplier.

Max temps are lower too. Went from max 58C playing bf3 to 51C

Nice

Also I found the Answer on why the VID changes when read through core temp it is because certain energy features have been put in place by via overclocking or using energy saving features like speed step

Intel does the same thing Quadrider this is exactly what I was talking about Confused about CPU VID - CPUs - Overclocking

That's because the multiplier is changing. Each multiplier has its own VID, and so when the multiplier changes, so does the VID. Only, the VID isn't changing: only the displayed VID is changing because you're seeing the different VID for the different multiplier.