Solved no way to boot my notebook without the X: WinPE

[saturn]

I have an Asus G75VX with Win7 64bit Home Premium that is suppose to be installed on it from a Microsoft Win7 Home Premium 32 and 64bit DVD. Instead of installing windows 7 64bit it has a locked file path in the bios to boot to X: network volume with WinPE that installs WinNT 32bit Client Server software in User Mode on C:Virtual Network Disk Volume. I am not even the administrator of my own personal computer. Someone I do not know and have never met is. I was just given a profile in the users and administrators group. I took a look at the registry many times and the registry confirms the client server configuration. What is wired is that I purchased the software from Fry's and paid 216.00 for the DVD and I paid $1375.00 for the G75VX. The WinPE is actually an operating system on the X:volume. I know because I have been in it. There is no way to boot my notebook without the X: WinPE network operating system booting. If you attempt to recover the notebook recovers from X:. There are not even any Win7 installation files on the win7 DVD. The other things is that after install the fake operating system masquerading as win7 will pass the Microsoft Genuine Security scan. Take a look at X: on your computer and see if you have a second operating system to. I actually thing there are three or more on mine.

 

[gregrocker]

That sounds like a PE disk being read in your optical drive.

What evidence is there in BIOS setup that such a lock has been placed? Check every tab for anything which indicates this. Otherwise it sounds like fantasy. Your BIOS would be locked from entry if such hacking had been done. In that case you'd either reflash to the last BIOS version or ship to manufacturer to have it recovered to Factory Condition.

If there is nothing which provides proof of this in the BIOS then wiping the hard drive with Diskpart Clean All Command to do the same perfect install as http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/219487-clean-reinstall-factory-oem-windows-7-a.html#post1839164 will leave nothing that can affect the new system at all.

 

[saturn]

I used diskpart and clean the volumes but there is something about the bios that is not right. You cant change the boot program path on my notebook and it has gone to the Asus Service Center to times and come back with things repaired that did not require repair. I can let you look at the registry if you want. The notebook is a network client server. It will not boot in secure mode using the factory keys. It did not right out of the retail box. It always showed the error, invalid signature detected.

 

[gregrocker]

If this is client server then are you a part of a work network? Have you consulted your IT dept?

Is the Win7 or Repair disk in your optical drive in order to boot Win7 now?

Do you wish to install Win7 on the PC to a wiped HD so you don't experience these issues possibly intruding via your network?

 

[saturn]

The windows disk does not have any windows 7 files on it. There is probably a way to install from the network using the servers and scripts. My computer is a Stand Alone Work Station with its own Domain and network ID. The configuration does not have all of the management functionality in abled to the user group. I do not require a network boot or WinPE. I just want an ordinary operating system. My computer also has a bios windows 8 software key.

 

[gregrocker]

Do you want to reinstall Win8?

Do you have a license for Win7?

I'd reset BIOS to defaults, wipe HD then reinstall. Then don't reconnect to that network.

 

[saturn]

My D: Drive is a CD-DVD installed to a Virtual Network Volume. It is not actually the normal install for hard ware and it is protected. If I install windows again I will still have the same problem because I do not have access to the memory in the bios where the pre config file is located. I thing there is an install script located somewhere because my notebook does not recognize .cfg on the OEM disk. I can let you see the .reg file and you can see for yourself what is installed on my notebook. Here is a link that has .reg files for more than one install. The last .reg file is 186MB and is to large to for the 2MB limit on uploads. I would have to zip it but I think it would be to large as a zip file.
http://1drv.ms/WbB9eu

 

[gregrocker]

This is a consumer forums. What you're suggesting requires an IT Pro as its unheard of in consumer installs

I've yet to see a BIOS or RAM modified in the way you describe. I'd reset to defaults and do the wipe and reinstall which always sheds everything except extant hardware probs.

 

[saturn]

That is the problem. Nobody knows what the install is. I do know that my notebook boots to a network in the background. I also know there is no windows 7 installed on the computer. I know that 32 bit has been installed in compatibility mode to run as a system instead of just 32bit programs. I know that the notebook runs virtual network volumes in place of actual devices and my note book is degraded from the Asus specifications and Microsoft user agreement because I was sold a windows 7 Home Premium software key but I have never had an actual windows 7 Home Premium installed on my notebook. The same thing happen with windows 8 that was pre installed on the notebook when I purchased it. The installed is just labeled Windows 7 Home Premium and I think Windows NT 32bit on the C: Volume. There are none plug and play networking device drivers in the device manager. I thought you were an IT professional?

 

[lehnerus2000]

What is wired is that I purchased the software from Fry's and paid 216.00 for the DVD and I paid $1375.00 for the G75VX.

Why not take it back to the store, demonstrate that it doesn't work (if necessary) and demand that they supply you with a working machine?

 

[saturn]

As you can see from the link of documents provided I went through three brand new computers with all of them having the fake operating system installed. The computer registry is like a finger print. It is unique to the computer. Click on the link and take a look for yourself. The computers came out of the unopened retail box configured as Client Server Network Managed Work Stations in User Mode in Windows 8. The major draw back to the configuration is that someone you do not know and have never met is managing your computer over a network having access to all information. How do you get permission from an administrator you do not know to configure you computer? Not only that. The Administrator publicly shares my notebook computer.

 

[Layback Bear]

I have been Googling and for the computer you have all I find is used ones, refurbished or update to newer models which come with Windows 8.

Exactly what notebook do you have and are they new?
Where are you getting these notebooks from?
Could you also tell us what you are paying for these notebooks?

It sounds like you are getting refurbished models that in their previous life were use with a network or domain.

From your post #1

Asus G75VX

 

[saturn]

All the documents in receipts, service documents, copies of registries are here http://1drv.ms/WbB9eu . The computers were purchased with Windows 8 on an Asus G75VX i7 from BestBuy.
They might have pulled the units from stock but my first notebook out of those three purchased at BestBuy was a Samsung Chronos i7 I took back and it had the same configuration. I even checked store demos at BestBuy and Fry's and multiple models and manufactures had the configuration. I even checked people's computers with their permission and some of them had the configuration. There have to be thousands of sold computers with the configuration without the owners knowledge.

 

[Layback Bear]

From you first post in this thread.

I have an Asus G75VX with Windows 7 64bit Home Premium that is suppose to be installed on it from a Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32 and 64bit DVD.

This is one of the reason why things are so confusing.
If that notebook came with Windows 7 their should be a sticker somewhere on it from Microsoft stating it is Windows 7 and which one. Along with that it should have the COA 25 number/letter code.

From what I can find that notebook should of come with Windows 8.
Does it state somewhere on the notebook Windows 7 or Windows 8.

I have never owned a notebook but from my understanding the bios have very little in they that can be changed and some even have the bios password from the manufacture.

Can you explain very simply and precisely what you are trying to do and why?

Then tell us what you are not allowed or can't do.

What might be happening is me and the other members are not understanding your problem.
Rather than sending me to a off site pictures could you just answer the question I asked.

Can you boot into Normal mode?
Can you boot into Safe mode?

 

[saturn]

Look, the Asus G75VX came with Windows 8 64bit at purchase. It had the Network Managed Client Server Workstation configuration. After returning it to the store and exchange for a second one that also had the configuration I went to Fry's and purchased Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit and 64bit on DVD. On install of the 64bit version on the Asus G75VX the configuration was the same. The Network Managed Client Server Workstation install files were on the Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium DVD software disk. All you have to do is take a look at the X:volume on a computer with the configuration and it will be an operating system. The X: volume operating system runs in the background on a network and is probably windows PE. The settings for this type of boot is locked in to the computer bios. It is complex because some of the hardware is created to be network managed.
To make it as simple as possible I would say that my computer is interfaced with a network operating system and my configuration is virtual. The notebook just appears normal. A lot of effort has gone in to creating the similarity of a normal operating system including labeling areas with information of the operating system that it is not.

 

[Layback Bear]

I know very little about this but I think we now know your concern.
There should be a member here somewhere that will have input.

Your concern is this, I'm I correct?

The Network Managed Client Server Workstation

Just thinking it might have something to do with a program installed that has the ability of a Cloud service of some kind.

I have went back to the ranch and requested for help.
It may take a while because we have members from all over the world. It's a time zone thing.

 

[Barman58]

If you reboot the system, with the Windows 7 install DVD in the drive, as the system starts to boot press F8 a few times - this should present the system Boot selector menu, if you manage to get this menu select the Optical drive from the list provided, this may need to be done a few times as it's a little Hit and miss on Asus systems.

You may see a prompt to press any key to boot from disc, select this if prompted. this should then start the DVD and present the windows 7 install routine.

I believe what is happening is that although the DVD is present in the drive the system is actually booting from the HDD and it's recovery option.

If this option does not work please post back as there are other things to try

 

[Layback Bear]

Thank you Nigel.
That sure didn't take long.

 

[saturn]

Since you ask, I will have to tell you. I am a pro se litigator in the United States Federal Courts and have litigated three civil actions in federal court since 2007 and still doing the documentation in one currently. Since 2007 I have gone through about eight or nine notebook computers for the same reason including the store returns. Only three were used and the others brand new, all purchased from BestBuy in more than one state. The configuration violates all the federal court rules like the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Federal Rules of Evidence, Federal Appellate Court Rules, United States Supreme Court Rules, Local Court Rules etc. The United States Federal Courts mandatorily went electronic for attorneys. Pro se litigators can use the Federal Court Electronic filing system with permission. I have a United States Federal Court Pacer account and have to use it in litigation. The only people allowed to access that information is an account holder. The only person allowed to have a password and user name is an account holder. The only people legally authorized to access court documents on the system are the parties involved in litigation. The public can only access information governed by the federal rules or with court permission. So it has created a large Constitutional problem for me to have to litigate in federal court with my personal and legal information being shared before it becomes part of the public domain. The configuration is not in any of the Asus or Microsoft documentation. I have windows 8 software key in my Asus G75VX bios and I have windows 7 Home Premium 32 and 64bit product software key that came with the software I purchased but I have never had either operating system. You can figure out all the other problems that exist or I can furnish you a list.

 

[Barman58]

A network managed Client Server Workstation is a normal set-up for a system in an enterprise, it is unrelated to Microsoft and Asus any further that they facilitate the option, by either software or hardware.

A client server network is in simple terms a Server which shares data and other items such as programs to a number of Clients, the Client Workstation name is just a description of it's purpose.

It is possible to set a Client to actually boot from a networked version of the Operating system held on the server rather than the Client although this is unusual on anything other than dedicated "Dumb" terminals which have no internal storage, and is almost unheard of over an internet connection where the inherent latency would cause many issues.

The way to prove that this system is not a remotely connected workstation on any network is simply to disconnect any network cable and switch off any wireless on the laptop. A boot in this state proves that the laptop is stand-alone

For security reasons it is normal for modern systems to boot from the HDD before the Optical drive, order may be changed on a one off basis using the procedure I outlined, or permanently, by pressing DEL on boot, entering the BIOS and changing the boot order.