Normal service is resumed as Windows 7's growth once again.....

[Layback Bear]

I like Bleu cheese.

 

[Iforgot]

While I don't want to appear intellectual I will say I don't like Win 8. No matter if it can be kinda/sorta made to look like a real OS like w7, it looks like crap with the flat, squared off, uninteresting windows and menus.

Yeah I did give it a try out for about a month and I still didn't like it. I needed no more time "to get used" to it. If it doesn't appeal to me after 4 weeks, it ain't gonna happen after 8 weeks. Or 15 weeks.

I don't try to tell anyone that Win 8 sucks, but what it is I don't like about it, not that it makes a difference why I don't like Win 8, Fords, Bleu Cheese, long walks on the beach, or anything else, my choice.

I'm not the type who will blindly follow anyone's recommendations without my own research/testing.

The preceding has been the opinion of the writer and does not represent the position of the management of Seven Forums or its sponsors.

You don't like Fords?! What's wrong with you, man?!

What!!!! Cheese????????

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Speaking of cheese....(look down)

 

[dskiller]

something has been bothering me about windows 8.

and thats it been designed assuming everyone that bought a computer with it on it,will have an internet connection. just like the xbox one.

yes you can get 8.1 on cd, but if you dont have a internet connection or have dialup,like my mom. you wont be able to get the updates. or download thirdparty software for startmenu and such.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Unfortunately ...

Foxit is looking pretty good.

I've only used the free Adobe Reader, formerly Acrobat, and dumped it about two years ago for Foxit. Of course all I need it for is to open PDF files

I use Foxit.

Unfortunately Foxit has introduced a horrible Cloud sync feature.
You can disable it (uninstall) but If you disable it, the updater doesn't work properly.

On my PC, it hangs about halfway through the update process.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

something has been bothering me about windows 8.

and thats it been designed assuming everyone that bought a computer with it on it,will have an internet connection. just like the xbox one.

yes you can get 8.1 on cd, but if you dont have a internet connection or have dialup,like my mom. you wont be able to get the updates. or download thirdparty software for startmenu and such.

You could pretty much say the same about Win 7 or even Vista and XP.

My gripe along those lines is software manufacturers pushing cloud computing don't seem to understand that not everyone has affordable, reliable, unlimited broadband.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Foxit is looking pretty good.

I've only used the free Adobe Reader, formerly Acrobat, and dumped it about two years ago for Foxit. Of course all I need it for is to open PDF files

I use Foxit.

Unfortunately Foxit has introduced a horrible Cloud sync feature.
You can disable it (uninstall) but If you disable it, the updater doesn't work properly.

On my PC, it hangs about halfway through the update process.

Thanks for the heads up on Foxit's Cloud Sync. They have until 2017 to fix it or I will look elsewhere.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Thanks for the heads up on Foxit's Cloud Sync. They have until 2017 to fix it or I will look elsewhere.

The PDF Reader work normally.

It's just that on my PC I have to either accept that the Cloud service runs constantly, OR manually update the program and disable that feature each time (I hate having superfluous services constantly running).

Also, it may be that Foxit doesn't like something to do with my PC's combination of hardware & software.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Thanks for the heads up on Foxit's Cloud Sync. They have until 2017 to fix it or I will look elsewhere.

The PDF Reader work normally.

It's just that on my PC I have to either accept that the Cloud service runs constantly, OR manually update the program and disable that feature each time (I hate having superfluous services constantly running).

Also, it may be that Foxit doesn't like something to do with my PC's combination of hardware & software.

Couple of questions.

1. Just what is Foxit's Cloud Sync? What does it do and why is it so bad? I didn't see anything about it on Foxit's website.

2. What Foxit program are you using? I've been looking at their Phantom PDF Standard and Business.

 

[Iforgot]

Speaking of cheese....(look down)

And the Mouse thinking that, that cheese might have a bit too much bite to it

 

[lehnerus2000]

Breaks Updater If Uninstalled

1. Just what is Foxit's Cloud Sync? What does it do and why is it so bad? I didn't see anything about it on Foxit's website.

I believe that it is some sort of online sharing/storage.
https://www.foxitcloud.com/

Here is a SevenForums thread:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/310620-what-foxit-cloudreading.html

I don't use Cloud Sharing/Storage/Syncing (if I have any say in the matter).

Actually ... I was forced to install Dropbox, so that I could send files to my TAFE lecturers.
The TAFE upload limit is too small for some subject exercises.

If you uninstall Foxit Cloud, the built-in updater doesn't work (on my PC at least).

2. What Foxit program are you using? I've been looking at their Phantom PDF Standard and Business.

I'm using this version:
Free PDF Reader | PDF Viewer | Foxit Reader Download

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there

I can't understand this thing about Windows 8 looking horrible with square tiles etc -- if you install Windows 8.1 update 1 you NEVER have to see the square tiles if you don't want to. Boot straight to desktop has been available for some time now.

I use a custom toolbar which gives me a classic cascading menu, I also pin applications to the quick launch taskbar and desktop -- and apart from the Windows symbol instead of the W7 menu Orb my desktop looks identical to what I have for W7 (I use a custom toolbar for W7 too) -- the W7 menu looks quite out of place BTW on a large monitor --try it on a 60 inch screen. The small "XP" like items shown are much more suitable for a cascading menu.

You can even run Metro apps from the desktop (or custom toolbar) if you want - without ever seeing the "Tiles" of the standard W8 start.

I prefer the custom toolbar approach anyway as you can CHOOSE your own items to have on your menu rather than have all the Ms stuff.


Cheers
jimbo

 

[DavidE]

Regarding the Foxit posts, I started a thread on their forum as user David_E.
I think I now understand Open Candy is not "Malware in and of itself"...
I feel I've been lucky that MBAM blocked this PUP.

Some folks have not been so lucky ...
Does Foxit Reader free 6.1.4.0217 have malware? - Foxit Corporation Forums

Just be careful with this install ... imho

 

[andrew129260]

Sumatra is a way better/light as a feather pdf reader if you really need one installed. Honestly unless your using internet explorer, there is no need for a pdf program. Most browsers have built in support so there is no need for one.

 

[Britton30]

something has been bothering me about windows 8.

and thats it been designed assuming everyone that bought a computer with it on it,will have an internet connection. just like the xbox one.

yes you can get 8.1 on cd, but if you dont have a internet connection or have dialup,like my mom. you wont be able to get the updates. or download thirdparty software for startmenu and such.

Yeah those are sorta pre-requisites for computer use.

 

[jimbo45]

Regarding the Foxit posts, I started a thread on their forum as user David_E.
I think I now understand Open Candy is not "Malware in and of itself"...
I feel I've been lucky that MBAM blocked this PUP.

Some folks have not been so lucky ...
Does Foxit Reader free 6.1.4.0217 have malware? - Foxit Corporation Forums

Just be careful with this install ... imho

Hi there

Unfortunately this is a common trend these days --obfuscate the REAL download with all sorts of other green arrows etc - deliberately hoping people will download and install the WRONG software -- I HATE those types of (increasingly common) websites. Always take real care when downloading anything -- even legit places like adobe often have "toolbars" and other "free software" clicked by default -- in fact don't double check but TRIPLE CHECK before clicking the download button.

Another one that is a total pain to remove is BUBBLEDOCK. If this gets installed your best bet is to re-install Windows again from scratch. Ignore the removal links in the article -- this piece of cr@pware goes so deep into your system that it's actually quicker to re-install windows than keep finding and removing traces of this stuff.

Bubble Dock or a variant of Win32/BubbleDock.A Removal Report

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Britton30]

Hi there

Unfortunately this is a common trend these days --obfuscate the REAL download with all sorts of other green arrows etc - deliberately hoping people will download and install the WRONG software -- I HATE those types of (increasingly common) websites. Always take real care when downloading anything -- even legit places like adobe often have "toolbars" and other "free software" clicked by default -- in fact don't double check but TRIPLE CHECK before clicking the download button.

Another one that is a total pain to remove is BUBBLEDOCK. If this gets installed your best bet is to re-install Windows again from scratch. Ignore the removal links in the article -- this piece of cr@pware goes so deep into your system that it's actually quicker to re-install windows than keep finding and removing traces of this stuff.

Bubble Dock or a variant of Win32/BubbleDock.A Removal Report

Cheers
jimbo

Fully agree with this Jimbo. So many times the real download link is a very tiny text link at the bottom of a page or buried in the page somewhere.
Years ago before I was wise I got a piece of crap called "Spyware Sherriff". This added a flashing icon to the taskbar and would display a big popup every few minutes telling me I needed to buy it to get rid of 100's of infections.
One thing I've started also is either run the URL or the .exe file through VirusTotal.com.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

1. Just what is Foxit's Cloud Sync? What does it do and why is it so bad? I didn't see anything about it on Foxit's website.

I believe that it is some sort of online sharing/storage.
https://www.foxitcloud.com/

Here is a SevenForums thread:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/310620-what-foxit-cloudreading.html

I don't use Cloud Sharing/Storage/Syncing (if I have any say in the matter).

Actually ... I was forced to install Dropbox, so that I could send files to my TAFE lecturers.
The TAFE upload limit is too small for some subject exercises.

If you uninstall Foxit Cloud, the built-in updater doesn't work (on my PC at least).

2. What Foxit program are you using? I've been looking at their Phantom PDF Standard and Business.

I'm using this version:
Free PDF Reader | PDF Viewer | Foxit Reader Download

Thanks for those links; very informative. I need far more than just a reader. After reading though the linked sites, PDF X-Change Pro looks a bit more attractive than Foxit. Again, I have until 2016-2017 to make a decision.

 

[gregrocker]

I just haven't seen enough problems with Adobe Reader to go looking for anything else. I've put it on all of my installs for years. Works fine. I just turn it off at Startup in its Prefs or msconfig.

It's also pretty obvious when you're at the Adobe download site, since so many of us go there for Flash updates.

 

[andrew129260]

I just haven't seen enough problems with Adobe Reader to go looking for anything else. I've put it on all of my installs for years. Works fine. I just turn it off at Startup in its Prefs or msconfig.

It's also pretty obvious when you're at the Adobe download site, since so many of us go there for Flash updates.

Security is the main issue.

Adobe reader is like java. It should be avoided.