Nvidia in Crisis

I just bought a EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 from Dell for $125 after rebate and I have it overclocked to 720 MHz (the default is 576 MHz). This video card is fast as blazes.
 

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I just bought a EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 from Dell for $125 after rebate and I have it overclocked to 720 MHz (the default is 576 MHz). This video card is fast as blazes.
still slower than the 4890, 5850, and the 5870 ;)
 

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Maybe, but I overclock my 3850 to 800+ Mhz and the 256 bit GDDR3 to 2350 Mhz...all on AGP bus lol. I do what I can. *shrugs*

(only reason I say is because I see people swearing you need PCI-e)
 

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I just bought a EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 from Dell for $125 after rebate and I have it overclocked to 720 MHz (the default is 576 MHz). This video card is fast as blazes.
still slower than the 4890, 5850, and the 5870 ;)

So? If he's happy with it, that's all that matters. You're not exactly running the latest hardware.

Maybe, but I overclock my 3850 to 800+ Mhz and the 256 bit GDDR3 to 2350 Mhz...all on AGP bus lol. I do what I can. *shrugs*

(only reason I say is because I see people swearing you need PCI-e)

Nvidia stopped supporting AGP after the 7800 though :p
 

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If i was nvidia i would buy XDR2 technology and use it in the new dx11 graphics card.
 

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I just bought a EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 from Dell for $125 after rebate and I have it overclocked to 720 MHz (the default is 576 MHz). This video card is fast as blazes.
still slower than the 4890, 5850, and the 5870 ;)

So? If he's happy with it, that's all that matters. You're not exactly running the latest hardware.
true... but he had money to blow ;) at the moment.... no job... therefore no computer upgrades\new guitars\car\music\anything at all! haha
 

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ok...more bad news :(

Fermi in trouble?

We all know it is constantly being delayed - but at the end of all those delays, what we were expecting was a stellar product from Nvidia. However, with today's press release, certain inconvenient details are revealed. Let's forget about the delays for now, and just consider the product itself.

The first Fermi GPU - GF100 - as we know for a while now, is a 3 billion transistor giant, taking a die size of around 500 mm2. Compare this with the 2.15 billion transistor, 330 mm2 Cypress on the same 40nm TSMC process, and you would be expecting a different class of product. Unfortunately, the details revealed today about cast an uncertain shadow over this basic assumption.

The first thing worth noticing is a complete and total absence of Single Precision performance figures or any comparison to direct competition - i.e. ATI's GPGPUs. It is clear that Fermi's real performance advantage would be Double Precision performance - had it hit the right clock speeds.

However, today's press release suggests Nvidia have missed target speeds by a lot. To be fair, Tesla products do clock lower, though not by much. In fact, GTX 280 and Tesla C1060 were clocked the same. Even taking a generous increase for Geforce products, things are still uncertain. As a result, DP performance is rated at between 520 GFlops and 630 GFlops. Suddenly, ATI Radeon HD 5870 - which wasn't even supposed to be a direct competitor - is performing right on par with 544 GFlops against Fermi's supposed strong point.

Consider Single Precision - far more important for gaming graphics, and things turn rather ugly. GF100's target speeds were reported to be...
source

& here's another ''semiacurate'' report.....

SemiAccurate :: Fermi massively misses clock targets


the more i hear about this new architecture, the more i realize its not geared towards gamers AT ALL!! :(

check out this interview ....i quote.

''this is to be the new engine of science''




TBH i think were seeing Nvidia take a backstep from the gaming market...
 

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its a continual ''work in progress''....
Fermi is less powerful than GeForce GTX 285?

more......:cry:

According to specifications based on NV100 A2 silicon [subject to change], C2050 will deliver 520 GFLOPS of IEEE 754-2008 Dual Precision format and 1.040 TFLOPS of single precision. C2070 stands a bit better, 630 GLOPS of Dual-Precision and 1.26 TFLOPS in Single Precision. The single-precision numbers are the inconvenient reason why nVidia didn't mention single-precision performance on any of the Tesla launch slides. The numbers are a pretty big letdown, given that you can buy an EVGA's factory overclocked GT200-based GTX 285 FTW board, packing 1.063 single-precision TFLOPS. Truth to be told, previous generation Tesla C1060 only delivered 933 GFLOPS SP and mere 77 GLOPS in Dual Precision so scientific community can be happy with the precision increase.
As far as consumer products go, NV100 will be a tough sell from the numbers game, as 15-month old ATI Radeon HD 4870 has equal amount of computational horsepower as the upcoming GeForce GTX 300 series with 1 and 1.5GB of GDDR5 memory. When we take a look at 2.72 TFLOPS delivered by ATI Radeon HD 5870 or the imminent launch of AMD's Hemlock, a dual-GPU board which according to Rick Bergman features "5 TFLOPS out of this baby" for $599.
source

sigh......... as much as i wanna belive NV are doing ok, it seems the reality is slightly different. :(
 

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its a continual ''work in progress''....
Nvidia - The way it used to be played

Goodbye competitive pricing :(
 

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Nvidia - The way it used to be played

Goodbye competitive pricing :(

i know........ its a real bummer, my hand is now going to be forced towards ATI...at whatever sky high prices they magic up in their heads :(

i mean look at this.... a HD5970 in the UK right now is going for £573 :eek::eek:, the MSRP is $599 (£353), look at the extortionate mark up as soon as it hits out shores...

H597F2GDG HIS ATI Radeon 5970 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card + DIRT 2 725MHz Core, 2048MB 4000MHz GDDR5 Memory, 3200 Stream Processors, PCI-E 2.0, CrossfireX Ready, ATI Eyefinity, ATI Stream, ATI Avivo HD, 2Year Warranty : novatech.co.uk

the fact they have no direct competition is gonna keep the 5 series mark ups through the roof.....


its annoying :mad:
 

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its a continual ''work in progress''....
i know........ its a real bummer, my hand is now going to be forced towards ATI...at whatever sky high prices they magic up in their heads :(

i mean look at this.... a HD5970 in the UK right now is going for £573 :eek::eek:, the MSRP is $599 (£353), look at the extortionate mark up as soon as it hits out shores...

This reminds me of when Nvidia had no serious competition. It's a role reversal. The consumer gets a great product, but has to pay through nose to get one.

I bet this will be in the $700-$900 range for us Aussies :mad:
 

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As a Nvidia fan, when I found these "old news", I found myself much staggered........
Nvidia GPU Issues
 

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yes.... it looks as if nvidia is down and out on this one...
 

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sigh......... as much as i wanna belive NV are doing ok, it seems the reality is slightly different. :(

It is quite depressing. And what makes matters worse is that Nvidia are keeping quiet about it as well, considering the amount of people who use Geforce and are waiting to hear something.
 

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The stuff with the lap tops is old news IMO. This is absolute FUD at it's worst.
 

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I have NVIDIA 260 GTX, and I never have any problem playing any game I want.
 

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well.... for what its worth, here's the 1st ''supposed'' online image of Nvidia's ''Fermi'' GPU ;)

16531_177230903252_8409118252_2883759_2290687_n.jpg


love them in jet black......:p
 

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its a continual ''work in progress''....
well.... for what its worth, here's the 1st ''supposed'' online image of Nvidia's ''Fermi'' GPU ;)

16531_177230903252_8409118252_2883759_2290687_n.jpg


love them in jet black......:p

I really hope that's what it looks like if it is ever released.

What I find strange is though, EVGA's next motherboard is 4-way SLI. That either means future drivers will be quad-SLI for single core cards, or GT300s will support quad-SLI for single core cards. Either way, there must be something coming for them to release a 4-way SLI board before 4-way SLI is possible with single core cards.

It's giving me hope that Nvidia aren't as much in the dirt as these sites are making out lol.

Edit: And that card does look different to the one that was faked.
 

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well.... for what its worth, here's the 1st ''supposed'' online image of Nvidia's ''Fermi'' GPU ;)

16531_177230903252_8409118252_2883759_2290687_n.jpg


love them in jet black......:p

I really hope that's what it looks like if it is ever released.

What I find strange is though, EVGA's next motherboard is 4-way SLI. That either means future drivers will be quad-SLI for single core cards, or GT300s will support quad-SLI for single core cards. Either way, there must be something coming for them to release a 4-way SLI board before 4-way SLI is possible with single core cards.

It's giving me hope that Nvidia aren't as much in the dirt as these sites are making out lol.

lol....... that would be nice :)

It's giving me hope that Nvidia aren't as much in the dirt as these sites are making out lol
either that, or Nvidia are worried the only way to keep up with these 5 series cards is gonna be to run 4 fermi GPUs... :cry: (i hope its not the latter)

they reckon this is the closest they've ever come to domestic supercomputing, i bet they'll fold like beasts.

but im just sitting here PRAYING they dont hand over the gaming market to ATI in the pursuit of science..:(, not b/c i hate ATI but b/c they need each other to stop themselves from the lure of GREED!!
 

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8GB 1066 buffalo firestix @ 1152mhz CL5
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire HD 5970 + GTX260 (physX)
Sound Card
Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG 20'' & SAMSUNG 23'' (dual screens)
Screen Resolution
2048x1152 & 1680x1050
Hard Drives
1x seagate 160gb IDE & 1x seagate 160gb SATA
PSU
XCILIO 850w (78A)
Case
CM590 1x 120x38mm & 2x92x38mm / 4x 120x25mm
Cooling
AC7 PRO @ 92x38mm blower, Lamptron military bus bay controll
Keyboard
LOGITECH E110
Mouse
logitech NX5
Internet Speed
2MB
Other Info
its a continual ''work in progress''....

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97S Krait Edition
Memory
8GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI TwinFrozr GeForce GTX770
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 + 1680x1050
Hard Drives
1x 120GB OCZ Agility 3, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue
PSU
Corsair HX850 modular
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Corsair H60 w/ twin Corsair SP120 fans
Keyboard
Logitech G510S Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G500S Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
40Mbps
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome
Other Info
LG Blu-Ray player
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