Only 100 megahertz???

[kbrady1979]

Most recent RAM kits default to 2T as far as I know. It is set in the DRAM timings in the BIOS. I'd hate to discourage a man from buying higher performance parts lol.....I will say this if it helps: The sweet spot appears to be 1600-1866MHz. At those speeds you get the most bang for your buck. The RAM will be initially recognized at whatever the JEDEC standard is for the RAM, and I'm thinking for that RAM, it is 1333. It's not a problem to change it in the BIOS to 1866MHz or whatever speed you decide on.

Personally, I would keep the RAM I have and instead put the money towards a 128-256GB SSD......it will be loads faster than your WD 10K rpm HDD. The SSD upgrade is probably the best upgrade you can do to a system like yours.

If you want to send me a PM on here, I can walk you through changing the CR in the BIOS.

Kelly

 

[Rockrz]

I thought about SSD, but until they get them were they are long lasting and reliable like the Western Digital units have been for me, I'll probably wait. I'm pretty happy with it now, other than wanting to tweak the RAM a bit.

Due to the heat sink I have, I cannot get the Corsair since they'd be too tall.

So, what do you think about this kit?
Amazon.com: Crucial Ballistix Sport - memory - 32 GB : 4 x 8: Computers & Accessories

Isn't there instructions online somewhere to change the CR in the BIOS?

 

[kbrady1979]

The Samsung 830 has been torture tested for consecutive days and as far as I know is still going and has had over 5 PetaBytes written to it.....it refuses to die lol. These days, SSD's are probably on average more durable and longer lasting than HDD, honestly. The Samsung 830 can be found on sale for as little as $75-80 for the 128GB model. I'm totally convinced an SSD will do more for system performance than ANYTHING else, including RAM. If you HAVE to have RAM......Corsair makes a Low Profile kit.....take a look at this. Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance LP 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1866C9

If you need the low profile kit, but something other than what I linked you to, check on Corsair's website.

Note: I still guarantee you will see little to no difference going with a 32gb kit, and guarantee a good SSD will light a fire under your PC's ass!

Kelly

Edit: Pm me and I will help you change the command rate. It is pretty easy actually, but you likely won't seen any increase in speed.

 

[Rockrz]

I found the 32 gig kit at
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance LP 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML32GX3M4A1600C10

I'd rather not have to go through re-installing the OS and progs to SSD... I might consider it if my
Acronis True Image would work to restore my current system image to the new SSD drive.

Any idea if this would work?

 

[kbrady1979]

There are a few different programs that will migrate an image to a new drive, although I've never used one. Usually for an SSD, it is best to do a fresh, clean install and roll from there. Check the Tutorials section on here and see if any of those sound promising.

That RAM is exactly what I was talking about, although you are just bumping up capacity(16gb->32gb), not frequency.....it's still 1600MHz. But yes, that RAM should work with your system just fine.

Kelly

 

[Rockrz]

What is mine currently, less than 1600 MHz?

 

[kbrady1979]

What is mine currently, less than 1600 MHz?

No, it's currently 1600MHz. Going to that new ram, you are just increasing capacity, not speed. Was just letting you know. I doubt very seriously you will ever find a use for 32GB, or 16 for that matter. It will just be sitting idle. That's why I suggested keeping what you have, it is a really good setup.

 

[Rockrz]

OK, so would increasing it to 1800 get better performance?

 

[kbrady1979]

OK, so would increasing it to 1800 get better performance?

1866MHz RAM would give a SLIGHT increase.....none you would probably ever be able to see or feel. Basically, it would only show up in performance benchmarks.

Like I said before, the only upgrade you could make to your current system that you could actually feel and see on a daily basis would be an SSD. Other than an SSD, you are looking at another CPU, or a totally new platform like socket 2011 for a performance increase.

 

[Rockrz]

Like the new Hobo Mobo put out by the homeless community in Silicon Valley?

 

[Wishmaster]

I've heard other say they didn't have to do anything in the BIOS, that their machine increased on it's own to 1866MHz

Although SB and IB CPUs they are capable of running at 1333,1600,1866, or 2133 the official support speed is DDR3 1333.

So when you set up a system, at first boot it should be set to 1333 regardless what RAM you installed.
First step is to set the motherboard to Optimized defaults. It goes by the CPUs spec, which should be 1333.

Unless some motherbaords have a workaround, but I ve always had to manually set the speed or the XMP profile after the initial setup.

 

[kbrady1979]

Sandy Bridge memory standard is 1333MHz, but I think Ivy Bridge got a bump up to 1600MHz. Problem is, you have to find RAM that has a JEDEC standard of 1600MHz. If you find RAM with the correct JEDEC standard, it will automatically recognize it in the BIOS as 1600MHz. Most of the RAM I've looked at is still 1333MHz standard, but with a couple mouse clicks in the BIOS, it can be set to w/e speed it is advertised as....i.e. 1600, 1866, 2133, etc. It is such a simple task to turn on XMP in your BIOS and change your RAM speed, there is no need to look for a workaround.

Kelly

 

[Wishmaster]

I stand corrected. It does seem Ivy got the bump to 1600. Not sure why I was still thinking 1333.
Thanks for the correction kbrady.

 

[Rockrz]

OK guys... I just pulled the plug on buying the 32gig RAM kit at:
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance LP 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML32GX3M4A1600C10

Once installed, do I need to do anything to the bios to maximize this upgrade?

I did a little further reading on SSD and numerous sources have these as not being as accurate and reliable as standard hard drives. So, since my machine is primarily for business purposes I need absolute reliability and longevity.

For now, I'll stick with my new Western Digital VelociRaptor WD2500 HHTZ drive which contains their latest technology.

 

[Rockrz]

My 32 gig kit arrived to day, and I just got 'em installed.

I know my machine recognizes all 32gigs of RAM because I used Belarc Advisor to give a read out of all components in my system and under ram is shows the 32gigs there, so best I can tell at this point all 4 sticks of ram are working properly.

Unless there is some test you guys know of that can be run to verify this.

Now that I have these installed, do I need to do anything to the bios
to maximize this upgrade?

 

[Rockrz]

Although SB and IB CPUs they are capable of running at 1333,1600,1866, or 2133 the official support speed is DDR3 1333.

So when you set up a system, at first boot it should be set to 1333 regardless what RAM you installed.
First step is to set the motherboard to Optimized defaults. It goes by the CPUs spec, which should be 1333.

Unless some motherbaords have a workaround, but I ve always had to manually set the speed or the XMP profile after the initial setup.

The 32gig RAM kit I just installed is rated at 1600, so do I need to get in to the BIOS and up it from the stock 1333 to 1600?

 

[Rockrz]

Well, I guess I cheated in buying a computer that is already overclocked to 4.0ghtz (I bought it from Velocity Micro)

I went in to the BIOS and XMP was already enabled and the RAM is already running at 1600, and Timing 10-10-10-27.

So, I should be good to go... right?

 

[kbrady1979]

It would seem it is running as it should be.

 

[Rockrz]

OK, so after installing the new 32gig RAM kit...

OK, so I went to Fossil Free Online CPU Load or Stress Test.
and clicked on 100% then ran CPU-Z Validator and the results
can be seen here: CPU-Z Validator 3.1

Couple of questions...

1) Why does it say "Rejected by CPU-Z 1.61" ?

2) Why is "Freq : 4000 MHz (100 * 40)" highlighted?

3) Why is it showing "RAM Speed : 800 MHz" ?

 

[kbrady1979]

I don't know why it says rejected by CPU-Z, as I've never tried to validate anything through it......google it to figure it out, I'm sure someone has explained it.

Frequency is what you are trying to validate, it is the clock speed of your processor.....4000MHz = 4.0GHz

800MHz * Dual Channel = 1600MHz

Actually, that is incorrect........what I meant was 800MHz DDR(Double Data Rate) = 1600MHz

It's been a long day.