Quick question about my PSU.

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Hello, all. :)

Right, I only have a 400W PSU at the minute, and I fear this is not enough to properly power my machine. I intend to buy a new one at 750W some time soon, but I wonder if there is a way to determine if my current PSU is a little too weak for my system?

I have attached a snip of SpeedFan's power section, in case that could be an indicator.

Cheers,
Tom. :)
 

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Those voltages don't look right. The +5V lines are well out of spec. What figures do you get on the appropriate page in the BIOS?

The voltages should lie within the following ranges (we can ignore the negative rails, as these are not used any more):

Loose Tolerance -10%/+8%:

3.3V 2.97V / 3.63V
5.0V 4.5V / 5.4V
12.0V 10.8V / 12.9V

Tight Tolerance -5%/+5%

3.3V 3.135V / 3.465V
5.0V 4.75V / 5.25V
12.0V 11.4V / 12.6V

Your +5V line is reporting a deviation from the nominal level of +37% in the first column and -28% in the second, both figures are well out of the tolerance ranges.
 

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Well, assuming I entered everything correctly, I got "Minimum PSU Wattage: 385W", and "Recommended PSU Wattage: 435W", but I added 40% aging to be safe, since my machine is on a lot. Based on this, I think my new 750W should do the trick, once I actually buy it.

A few questions, if you don't mind. :)

- Is it possible to damage my system by installing a PSU that is too powerful, or is it regulated somehow?
- What does it mean that my tolerance ranges are out by quite a bit? Should I be concerned?

I'll reboot and check the BIOS power values now, and report back with them in a moment.
 

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NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
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Dual Screen - Dell SE198WFP (19"), & GRUNDIG GU37BLKSE (37")
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I have the BIOS values. :)

Vcore = 1.326V
DDR2 1.8V = 1.856V
+3.3V = 3.392V
+12V = 12.302V
 

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NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
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Creative SB X-Fi
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Dual Screen - Dell SE198WFP (19"), & GRUNDIG GU37BLKSE (37")
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No.... I'm running 1260 watts with dual PSU's

The voltage has a range that is acceptable... ie... +/-10% of 5.00 volts is .5 volts so 4.5-5.5 volts is good...your running 3.60-6.85 way out of range

Yes...one your at the limit of the power supply...two the 5 volts unstable....
 

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I shall make it a priority to upgrade my PSU as soon as possible, then. I plan to buy a 750W one, made by my local computer shop, is there any chance you could verify that it will be suitable for the job?

I intend to buy this.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ 2.80 GHz
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-M720-US3
Memory
4GB, Dual Channel, DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual Screen - Dell SE198WFP (19"), & GRUNDIG GU37BLKSE (37")
Screen Resolution
1440x900, 1600x1200
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 (2TB Internal), WD 15EADS (1.5TB External)
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Laser Keyboard 7000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 7000
Well, assuming I entered everything correctly, I got "Minimum PSU Wattage: 385W", and "Recommended PSU Wattage: 435W", but I added 40% aging to be safe, since my machine is on a lot. Based on this, I think my new 750W should do the trick, once I actually buy it.

A few questions, if you don't mind. :)

- Is it possible to damage my system by installing a PSU that is too powerful, or is it regulated somehow?
- What does it mean that my tolerance ranges are out by quite a bit? Should I be concerned?

I'll reboot and check the BIOS power values now, and report back with them in a moment.
You cannot damage a system by installing a PSU with greater capacity than your system requires, and this will also give room for further expansion as well as running cooler/more efficiently.

Voltage tolerances are very important, because dropping below the limits can cause malfunctioning and exceeding the limits can actually damage your hardware.
I have the BIOS values. :)

Vcore = 1.326V
DDR2 1.8V = 1.856V
+3.3V = 3.392V
+12V = 12.302V
Those figures look fine, but what about the +5V rail as this is the one that is out of spec?

It could well be that there is nothing wrong with the +5V rail, other than the value being incorrectly reported by SpeedFan. I think that is probably the case, since a +5V rail that far out of spec will prevent your system from running at all.
 

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ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
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1440x900
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OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
PSU
XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
Case
Gigabyte IF233
Cooling
1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
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Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
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NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
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Avast! 8.0.1497
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Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
I shall make it a priority to upgrade my PSU as soon as possible, then. I plan to buy a 750W one, made by my local computer shop, is there any chance you could verify that it will be suitable for the job?

I intend to buy this.

It should be, but I can't vouch for the company....
 

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windows 10 pro 64 bit
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i5 4690K@4500 COOLER MASTER Seidon 120M water cooler
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z87 LGA 1150 Intel
Memory
16gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 sc
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ GL2760H Black 27" 2ms HDMI Widescreen LED 1920X1080
Screen Resolution
DSR 2103X1183
Hard Drives
ADATA 256 gig SSD + 4 junk
PSU
EVGA supernova 750
Case
coolermaster
Cooling
many...
Keyboard
z merc
Mouse
Logitech wireless G602
Internet Speed
2.5mbs cable
Those figures look fine, but what about the +5V rail as this is the one that is out of spec?

It could well be that there is nothing wrong with the +5V rail, other than the value being incorrectly reported by SpeedFan. I think that is probably the case, since a +5V rail that far out of spec will prevent your system from running at all.

There was no +5V value in my BIOS, I was slightly confused, as I expected one.

Still, I think this one will do, until I buy my new one. I think the store re-opens on January 4th, so I'll probably buy one around that time.

Thanks for the help. :)
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ 2.80 GHz
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GIGABYTE GA-M720-US3
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4GB, Dual Channel, DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi
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Dual Screen - Dell SE198WFP (19"), & GRUNDIG GU37BLKSE (37")
Screen Resolution
1440x900, 1600x1200
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Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 (2TB Internal), WD 15EADS (1.5TB External)
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Microsoft Wireless Laser Keyboard 7000
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