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Bertison

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Hello all
A check of my Spec's, will show that I am running (2x2) Gb of Corsair CMZ4GX3M2A1600C9. this occupies 2x slots (of 4 available). I accessed the Giga site and 8GB is possible, but made the mistake of ordering the cheaper (4x2) sticks of Crucial CT25664BA1399A.

I removed the Corsair and fitted the Crucial 8GB. No boot!
Tried 2 of the sticks in 2 paired slots. Boot! Tried 2 more in other 2 paired slots. Boot!
Tried all combinations of these in 2 paired slots, Boot OK. Put all 4 sticks in, no Boot!

Tried the Corsair (original RAM) in original slots, then in other 2 slots. Boot OK, both times. Retrieving some of my lost hair, I left the original RAM in the original slots. Everything works OK, but I would still like to fit 8GB of RAM. I have proved that the RAM (both sets) is OK, but the board will not take 8GB of the Crucial stuff. I can easily buy another (2x2) GB of the Corsair, but will it work?:(

Gigabyte lists both sets on their Support List. This is what it says:4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets supporting up to 8 GB of system memory (Note 1)
  1. Dual channel memory architecture (Note 2)
  2. Support for DDR3 1333(OC)/1066/800 MHz memory modules
'Because of Intel chipset limitation, please use single-side memory module if four memory modules are to be installed.'

Does the (italic) statement mean that I cannot install 8GB, because the RAM is double-sided? I am not well versed in memory applications, so am unsure of this. If so, it probably means that I cannot install another(2x2) GB of the Corsair suff. And I have learned yet another expensive lesson!:cry:

Hoping for advice please, thanks all.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
bertison
OS
Windows 7/64 HPremium.
CPU
AMD FX-6300.
Motherboard
Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
Memory
Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
Sound Card
Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1280
Hard Drives
Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
PSU
Corsair 750M.
Case
Coolermaster N300.
Cooling
FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
Keyboard
Logitech K290
Mouse
Trust Optical Wired
Internet Speed
15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
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Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
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NETWORK:
Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
Are you sure of that part number?

Or is it 1339A?

The 1339A specs at Crucial do not appear to say if it is single or double sided.
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
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none; graphics are integrated on CPU
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onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
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Are you sure of that part number?

Or is it 1339A?

The 1339A specs at Crucial do not appear to say if it is single or double sided.
You are correct - Typo! 1339A is right, sorry.

Thanks, Iggy!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
bertison
OS
Windows 7/64 HPremium.
CPU
AMD FX-6300.
Motherboard
Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
Memory
Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
Sound Card
Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1280
Hard Drives
Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
PSU
Corsair 750M.
Case
Coolermaster N300.
Cooling
FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
Keyboard
Logitech K290
Mouse
Trust Optical Wired
Internet Speed
15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
Other Info
NETWORK:
Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
When it comes to matching Ram you can use the Crucial site but it would be better to pull the stick write down the exact model sku etc then go hunting for that same type

If you had a box with the make of ram on it would make it much easier

You can't go wrong following the exact make you are looking for when you search for that specific type and not all ram will work even if the timmings match some boards are just iffy that way
 

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GPU GTX Gigabyte 970G1
When it comes to matching Ram you can use the Crucial site but it would be better to pull the stick write down the exact model sku etc then go hunting for that same type

If you had a box with the make of ram on it would make it much easier

You can't go wrong following the exact make you are looking for when you search for that specific type and not all ram will work even if the timmings match some boards are just iffy that way

I have the make, etc, of the original RAM. Problem is this:

'Because of Intel chipset limitation, please use single-side memory module if four memory modules are to be installed.'

I cannot find out if the Corsair CMZ4GX3M2A1600C9 I already have, and listed in my OP, is single- or double-sided. I have e mailed Corsair and crucial about this, but they do take time to answer. "Sided" RAM: how to tell PHYSICALLY please? Does it mean that the chips are on both sides of the stick?

Sorry if that seems an obvious question to answer, but I am self-taught and will probably be learning until my perch is empty!:o
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
bertison
OS
Windows 7/64 HPremium.
CPU
AMD FX-6300.
Motherboard
Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
Memory
Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
Sound Card
Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1280
Hard Drives
Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
PSU
Corsair 750M.
Case
Coolermaster N300.
Cooling
FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
Keyboard
Logitech K290
Mouse
Trust Optical Wired
Internet Speed
15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
Other Info
NETWORK:
Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
"Sided" RAM: how to tell PHYSICALLY please? Does it mean that the chips are on both sides of the stick?

Sorry if that seems an obvious question to answer, but I am self-taught and will probably be learning until my perch is empty!:o

I stand to be corrected, but going from memory you cannot tell by eye.

Chips on both sides or just one side is not necessarily an indicator of "banks"--I realize that is not intuitive.

You need to get deeper into the specs and ideally get an answer from Crucial/Corsair.

I'd guess you have run afoul of the italicized limitation.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Thanks for this, Iggy: -
"I stand to be corrected, but going from memory you cannot tell by eye.

Chips on both sides or just one side is not necessarily an indicator of "banks"--I realize that is not intuitive.


You need to get deeper into the specs and ideally get an answer from Crucial/Corsair.


I'd guess you have run afoul of the italicized limitation.
"

I just received word from Crucial: the RAM is double-sided, so I guess I can sell it on. I don't want to return it, tho' I guess I could, as I know someone who wants it NOW and will give me almost the price paid, which was reasonable anyway.

Best part is that I have learned something from it.

Many thanks.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
bertison
OS
Windows 7/64 HPremium.
CPU
AMD FX-6300.
Motherboard
Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
Memory
Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
Sound Card
Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1280
Hard Drives
Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
PSU
Corsair 750M.
Case
Coolermaster N300.
Cooling
FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
Keyboard
Logitech K290
Mouse
Trust Optical Wired
Internet Speed
15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
Other Info
NETWORK:
Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
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