Random BSODs Especially whilst gaming (Any games)

[Gomulee]

Hello,

I've posted in the past regarding this issue but later found out it was my last 8Core CPU that was physically damaged and was sent a new one by AMD.

This new one has been running ok

Now, I'm not sure if this issue is caused by the CPU, RAM... hell it could be the bloody mouse, I just don't know.

I've attached the ripped diagnostic files for your viewing.
Any help with this would be much appreciated, if it's the damned CPU I'm going to throttle AMD.

Cheers folks.

 

[Arc]

Your dumps are not specific about the causes of the crashes. Still, if the crashes are occurring during gaming, three four things should be done primarily.

► Uninstall and reinstall nvidia display driver.

• Download and install |MG| Driver Fusion (Driver Sweeper) 1.1.1 Download.
• Reboot the computer in Advanced Boot Options, safe mode. Search Driver Fusion in your start menu, and remove all components of your nVidia display driver.
• Boot normally now. Go to Drivers - Download NVIDIA Drivers, follow option two to search for the appropriate driver for your system automatically, and install it.

► It may cause due to heat, too. Monitor the system heat, including the GFX card's heat. Specially the heats just before the crashes. Speccy will help you in it.

► Dust is another probable cause. Clean the inside of the computer, very carefully.

► The graphics card itself may be the cause. Do a stress test.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100356-video-card-stress-test-furmark.html

Let us know the results, and if it still crashing or not.

Two more points. Not directly related to your current issue, but you should pay attention to those too.

► Uninstall the following programs:

• AVG. Including PC Tuneup. Replace it by Microsoft Security Essentials - Free Antivirus for Windows
• Gigabyte Utilities

► Free up the startup.

1. Click on the Start button
2. Type “msconfig (without quotes), click the resulting link. It will open the System Configuration window.
3. Select the “Startup” tab.
4. Deselect all items other than the antivirus.
5. Apply > OK
6. Accept the restart.

 

[Gomulee]

Hi Arc,

I've run the GPU test software and the GPU was reaching temps of 90c.
I'm going to install my old CoolerMaster CPU fan to see if that helps mitigate the heat... when I got my new CPU from AMD it came with a CPU fan which I installed.
I've used DriverSweeper and re-installed the GPU's software.

Gonna shut down, give the PC 5 minutes to cool off and then pop it open and stick the old CPU fan inside. It's much larger than the new one so that's why I think it'll help dissipate some of the heat... but we'll see.

It's annoying that the errors are not being specific about what the problem is but hopefully all this will help solve the issue.

Will let you know of the results.

 

[Arc]

Sure. Take your time, apply the changes, take the suggested tests, and then run the computer normally. If it crashes again, inform us with the crash dumps.

 

[Gomulee]

Ok, PC dusted (lots of caked in dust in the GPU so I cleaned out that)

Old cooler master installed, it's a little tight though, the fan housing is touching my RAM sticks but the stick aren't under any pressure from the fan housing plus they have coolers on them so the housing is not actually touching the sticks, just their coolers... I suppose the fan being that close to the RAM will assist in keeping the RAM a little cooler.

I'm gonna play a game and see how long it takes, if at all, the computer to BSOD, once it does I'll do as you asked and send the reports through.

Hopefully it won't but you never know.

Cheers for your original post Arc.




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UPDATE
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Running Piriform and using FurMark I'm seeing that the temp, though high, is now down to 86c.

Unsure of the ideal running temp but it's a damned sight better than 90c.

 

[Gomulee]

Hi Arc,

I got a BSOD again,
Attached are the fault files from the crash, should also have the old crashes too.
I was playing World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria.

The BSOD most likely would have happened while playing any game.
Unsure as to why it's BSOD'ed as I gave the PC a good dusting the other day.

Cheers,

 

[Arc]

Hi Gomulee, it is a Stop 0x124, and the troubleshooting steps are as stated in http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-lockup-debug-how/35349-stop-0x124-what-means-what-try.html.

But, I think at the first you need to arrange some extra cooling. As a try, you may see it http://www.sevenforums.com/overclocking-case-mods/233104-water-cooling-guide.html#post1949876 (though personally I have never tried it)

And, make it sure that there is no dust accumulated inside the computer.

 

[Gomulee]

Hi Arc,

I should have enough power in my PSU to add more cooling fans, what do you think?
I'm running a 700w PSU.

 

[Arc]

Sufficiently enough. Much enough. You may plan for a CoolerMaster.

And, how old the graphics card is?

BTW, dont forget the other things of Stop 0x124 - what it means and what to try. OK?

 

[Gomulee]

Ok Arc

I was wondering,

It is likely a hardware fault somewhere inside my system, in some cases I've seen posts where crashes like the one I am getting were resolved simply by removing the Mouse and replacing it with a new one.

The crashes didn't occur until after I'd installed the new 8Core CPU, do you think it's possible that the CPU could be faulty? or perhaps incompatible with another piece of my hardware?

As for cooling, definitely, I will be purchasing some very large fans for the system.
I'm not sure what I can do about cooling the GPU as it has it's own built in cooling fan.

The GPU is a Nvidia GTX570 and I've had it almost 1 year. In fact, by the end of this week it will be 1 years old (from when I bought it with the PC)
The PC it self was a Custom built machine built by a company called 'DinoPC', because of the modifications I've made to the system, they're not willing to check it out but will be happy to provide a service at a price (I suppose that's fair considering the alterations that I've made)

The graphics card it self was released in 2010 I think, so it's a couple of years old but the one I have now was purchased brand new so it shouldn't have any aging effects before last year.

I have been monitoring 'Speccy' and the GPU sits at around 50c to 51c when not doing anything like gaming, just sitting there as the PC runs doing other things.

When gaming kicks in it instantly jumps to temps of 65c and slowly goes up and up and up until it gets to around 75c and in more powerful games like Crysis it'll get to temps of 80c to 85c... so the issue, as you said, could well be down to heat.
Once I'm able, I will purchase some huge ass fans and replace or keep the old ones and have the new ones back the old ones up.

Also, I will read through that page guide you linked to me and see if I can resolve the issue using that as a guideline.
When I purchase the fans I may purchase a new CPU (same as my current one) and see if the new one gives me any trouble. If it doesn't then I'll know it's the CPU and I'll send it back to AMD for replacement.

Thanks again Archie

 

[Arc]

It may be the CPU, but it may be the graphics card, too!

 

[Gomulee]

Lol! Well I've just ordered a new GPU cooler Accelero Xtreme GTX Pro VGA Cooler

And I am considering purchasing this Corsair Liquid Cooler: Corsair Memory Cooling Hydro Series H100 High-Performance CPU Cooler (CWCH100) - dabs.com

Both should give me very good temps instead of buying a multitude of case fans.

I can't afford to buy the Corsair CPU cooler at the moment but will most likely get it in the near future but I've ordered the GPU cooler... once installed it'll probably do the trick.
If not then I'll just have to hope that replacing the CPU and the CPU cooler will work >.<'

If not then I might just cry

Thanks again Arc!

 

[Arc]

Let us see if it solves the situation or not. Best of luck

 

[Alsisgevat]

I didnt want to post here at first, and this isnt a bsod fix, but I just want to add my 2 cents, firstly, the 80-85 degrees on your gpu is normal, I had a 580 stock aircooled gpu and constantly ran 85degrees, I added some fans and it dropped to 78degrees on full load, those cards are made for those temps, they perform just as good as if they ran 60 degrees, nVidia tested this and I can vouch for it too. As for your new purchase, I wouldnt have suggested it, the reason being I had that cooler on a OC'd 580 few months back, it started up fine, but went blue screen asoon as you enter the desktop, after a while of tweeking the bios and making sure everything is back to stock the card ran kind of fine, it ran normal on desktop, but when gaming it crashed and gave distorsion line across the screen. Long story short, in the end after getting a new chassis, it turned out the added cooler was to heavy, it made the card base bend, and as such, made the card loose connectivity on the motherboard after the fans kicked in, which explained why it happened when gaming, the fans needed to turn faster to keep the card cool, and the vibrations was just enough to disconect the card. And no amount of stock screws and motherboard fitting changed that, in the end I had to custom make a bracked that pushed the card up and kept it level. So I am not saying this will be the case with you, but just make sure you have some sort of support for your card,after you install the new cooler. You can get something like the EKWB backplate brackets.(just google ekwb gtx570 backplate bracket). Or make something.

As for the CPU, the cooler you plan on buying is excelent and will definitely improve temps, first check if the thermal paste under the cpu is still...."fresh and intact" ie: no cracks in it or stickyness and definatly not spread over the sides, but the cooler is a great choice, the fans supplied with it are very noisy compared to say noctuas, so if you want, you can replace them with more expensive and less noisy fans at some stage. Also when installing the new card reset your bios(depending on the board it may be different ways) so just check the manula for resetting cmos.